89 civic. A very small amount of coolant is leaking between
oil pan and water pump area. I thought it could be engine
oil is leaking but after online research I gotta found out that
the rad coolant is weeping through a weeping hole. I did not heard
of a weeping hole before. Some posters suggested that dripping a bit of
coolant through a weeping hole is a NORMAL. Is it normal?
Or is it water pump starting getting bad?
I got my car reflushing the radiator coolant about 3 months ago. Since
that time time, I noticed the coolant resevior is losing a coolant. I
know it must be a weeping through a hole. Some posters
suggested a wrong type of coolant could cause the problme.
Use Silicate coolant one??? I did not use HOnda brand coolant.
I think I used mobile brand coolant.

 

In article <1112164057.702269.47350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>,
mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> 89 civic. A very small amount of coolant is leaking between
> oil pan and water pump area. I thought it could be engine
> oil is leaking but after online research I gotta found out that
> the rad coolant is weeping through a weeping hole. I did not heard
> of a weeping hole before. Some posters suggested that dripping a bit of
> coolant through a weeping hole is a NORMAL. Is it normal?
> Or is it water pump starting getting bad?
> I got my car reflushing the radiator coolant about 3 months ago. Since
> that time time, I noticed the coolant resevior is losing a coolant. I
> know it must be a weeping through a hole. Some posters
> suggested a wrong type of coolant could cause the problme.
> Use Silicate coolant one??? I did not use HOnda brand coolant.
> I think I used mobile brand coolant.

You have to use the right coolant. The older formulas will destroy a
water pump very quickly.

 

mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> 89 civic. A very small amount of coolant is leaking between
> oil pan and water pump area. I thought it could be engine
> oil is leaking but after online research I gotta found out that
> the rad coolant is weeping through a weeping hole. I did not heard
> of a weeping hole before. Some posters suggested that dripping a bit of
> coolant through a weeping hole is a NORMAL. Is it normal?
> Or is it water pump starting getting bad?
> I got my car reflushing the radiator coolant about 3 months ago. Since
> that time time, I noticed the coolant resevior is losing a coolant. I
> know it must be a weeping through a hole. Some posters
> suggested a wrong type of coolant could cause the problme.
> Use Silicate coolant one??? I did not use HOnda brand coolant.
> I think I used mobile brand coolant.
>
limited seepage is normal. especially on a brand new pump. if it gets
excessive however, consider replacement. i got my crx dirt cheap
because the pump seal had completely gone & the bearings had seized.

 

Before I had my water pump replaced on my Vigor, it was apparently leaking
through the weep hole, but I never observed it dropping it under the car.
Though the mechanic who changed the water pump & timing belt said that it
was a good thing I replaced the water pump, as the bearings were about to
seize relatively soon. Though, this was @ 145,000kms (I still think that
someone played with milleage on my car before I bought it)

If this person didn't have had a change of water pump, I suggest he does,
especially if the timing belt hasn't been changed. It's cheap insurance
compared to a seized water pump and the other damages that can occur.




"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9629512638721tegger@207.14.113.17...
> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in news:mcmurtri-
> 38FAB3.22460029032005@corp-radius.supernews.com:
>
>> In article <1112164057.702269.47350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>,
>> mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> 89 civic. A very small amount of coolant is leaking between
>>> oil pan and water pump area. I thought it could be engine
>>> oil is leaking but after online research I gotta found out that
>>> the rad coolant is weeping through a weeping hole. I did not heard
>>> of a weeping hole before. Some posters suggested that dripping a bit of
>>> coolant through a weeping hole is a NORMAL. Is it normal?
>
> <snip>
>
>>
>> You have to use the right coolant. The older formulas will destroy a
>> water pump very quickly.
>>
>
>
> Correct. But a small amount of weepage IS normal even with the correct
> non-
> silicate coolant. There is a weep hole built into the water pump. Over the
> course of six months or so, the level in your reservoir will drop enough
> to
> require a top-up.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

The weep hole in the water pump is there so you can tell when the seal
isnt doing its job. No its NOT normal for collant to leak out this hole.
Its an indication that the seal is failing. Part II is the extra coolant
can damage the pump bearings too.

-Pete

 

TeGGer® wrote:
> Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote in news:mcmurtri-
> 38FAB3.22460029032005@corp-radius.supernews.com:
>
> > In article <1112164057.702269.47350@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups. com>,
> > mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> >
> >> 89 civic. A very small amount of coolant is leaking between
> >> oil pan and water pump area. I thought it could be engine
> >> oil is leaking but after online research I gotta found out that
> >> the rad coolant is weeping through a weeping hole. I did not heard
> >> of a weeping hole before. Some posters suggested that dripping a
bit of
> >> coolant through a weeping hole is a NORMAL. Is it normal?
>
> <snip>
>
> >
> > You have to use the right coolant. The older formulas will destroy
a
> > water pump very quickly.
> >
>
>
> Correct. But a small amount of weepage IS normal even with the
correct non-
> silicate coolant. There is a weep hole built into the water pump.
Over the
> course of six months or so, the level in your reservoir will drop
enough to
> require a top-up.
>


There was a expert honda guy macdonald said that small weeping is a
normal.
Is it normal if it leaks every day? Looking under the car for dripped
spot
every morning, I found the dripped spot about an inch in diameter.
I filled up coolant level to max in reservoir from the min level twice
in 3 or 4 months. I don't know if I have to change Water Pump now
possible before the problems get into engine and Timing Belt.

 

replace water pump ,timing belt crank and cam seal.Also ck all v belts,you
should be ok

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Replacing timing belt crank? you mean the round pulley????
why should i replace cam seal? Are you saying water pump o-ring?

 

The drip is between oil pan and the behind the timing cover. i thought
it's engine oil becauese
I got the oil change at the shop, and they overfilled it. Honda
manual said 3.75 qt. They add
4 qt. I don't know if this might cuz the seeping. I checked oil
dipstick time to time and there is
no sign of losing. And I also checked the coolant reservior and it stay
on min level. Why is that
coolant reservior never emptied out if the coolant is being seeping
through water pump?

 

I checked the rad cap. The coolant is full all the time.

I want to change the water pump whether it's bad or good. I have no
experience changing timing belt and water pump.
I have to remove drive belts and timing belt then water pump.
My problem is on timing belt about the alignment.
I don't know about what is number one piston position at Top Dead
Center. Can I just remove timing belt and put it back
exactly the way it is? I mean the exact teeth of timing belt align
with exact teeth of camshaft sprocket
Once I remove timing belt, do I have to make a TDC thing?

 

TeGGer® wrote:
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns962C54D8CFD83tegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>
> > You seem to be regarding TDC as if it were some impossibly
difficult
> > thing to achieve. It's not. There is a mark on the crankshaft
pulley
> > that indicates TDC. You turn the crank by hand THE CORRECT WAY
until
> > the valves are closed for the #1 cylinder, then turn it until the
TDC
> > mark is lined up on the timing belt cover.
>
>
>
> Sorry, I misspoke. The TDC mark IS the mark for the #1 cylinder at
TDC.
> Turn so the marks line up and you don't have to look at the valves.
>

What do you mean by line up? Line up with camshaft?
Once I remove the timing belt, I turn the "crankshaft drivebelt pulley"
until the TDC mark (you said there is a mark on the crankshaft pulley)
is
set at 12 o'clock position before I install new timing belt. am I
right? What about camshaft pulley? Sorry man I'm confused about this. I
do read
the book I'm still confused.







>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

I'm reading your timing belt website. I'm still confused. I don't
know if I
can handle it. This is all new to me!

 

mmdir2002@yahoo.co.uk wrote in
news:1112776866.180479.261780@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

>
> I'm reading your timing belt website. I'm still confused. I don't
> know if I
> can handle it. This is all new to me!
>
>


I don't have a timing belt Website. You must be referring to the external
one that's linked in my pages. It's done by professionals doing it with
professional tools. I'd like to replace it eventually with one that shows
the operation using home tools.

Look, you really need to get some beginner's books on engine operation. The
idea of TDC is very simple, if you understand how engines work. If you
don't understand what TDC is and how to get to it, then you lack some very
basic knowledge, and you'll probably muck something up very badly.

What really helps are repair manuals dealing with engine overhaul. They
show the parts exploded, and they give them names. They describe things
like valve adjustment, timing belt replacement.

Even a thorough read of something like a Hanes manual will give you some
sort of idea, but a Helm manual would be quite a lot better.
www.helminc.com

Start here:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/engine.htm
And use a search engine for any questions to arise.

Another thing you can do is to simply observe: Remove your valve cover, get
a socket on the crank pulley bolt, and watch what happens as you turn the
engine. Turn the crank COUNTER clockwise, and don't overtighten the valve
cover bolts after.

Timing belt replacement is considered "semi-advanced" auto servicing.
Perhaps you'd better work your way up to it by doing oil changes, brake
servicing and other stuff that is more tolerant of mistakes.

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/