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Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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John Horner
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"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
> one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.
>


The Ridgeline is derived from the Honda Minivan/SUV platform and it is not
really designed for the serious work truck market. The others you
mentioned are targeted at the heavy work truck market, as are the Ford and
Chevy/GMC offerings.

John


 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Kent Finnell
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"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> The Honda beats the other two like a drum in resale value.
>>

>
> There is absolutely no way to know what the resale value of Ridgelines
> several years from now is going to be. It is a brand new model in a
> segment Honda has never been in before.
>
> John
>

It's a Honda and Expedition is a F (ix) O (r) R (epair) D (aily). Actually
the Tacoma was the one without an estimated resale value. The Frontier is
about on a par with the RL's estimated resale value. We won't even discuss
the Dodge. I didn't look at the Avalanche ... too big and too heavy.

Ok, excluding resale values, what about the other Ridgeline advantages?
When similarly equipped it doesn't appear to be over priced (as one poster
claimed). The interior is roomy, the 5 ft bed is the norm for the class
with full size rear doors and seats. The bed is functionally wider since
the wheel wells don't intrude on the bed area.

Independent comparison test seem to favor the Ridgeline, at least the ones
I've read. There's an admittedly biased one on www.vtec.net (hopefully it's
still there). In any case, Honda has raised the bar in the class.

Disclosure: I do not work for Honda or a Honda dealership. I've never
owned a pickup nor do I want to own one.


--
Kent Finnell
From the Music City USA


 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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garray
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Good stuff, Kent. A lot of info on the forum at Honda Ridgeline Owners Club
too - www.ridgelineownersclub.com if you're looking for more from actual
owners and how they're using the truck so far.


 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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SoCalMike
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John Horner wrote:
>>The Honda beats the other two like a drum in resale value.
>>

>
>
> There is absolutely no way to know what the resale value of Ridgelines
> several years from now is going to be. It is a brand new model in a segment
> Honda has never been in before.


ill agree with that. they might just be making the "subaru brat" of the
new millineum.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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tony kujawa wrote:
> "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1114816847.926246.150320@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
>>one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.

>
>
>
> F the overpriced Ridgeline. Go buy a 4x4 turbodiesel from one of the big 3
> for the same price if you watch your options. Same gas mileage and 600
> ft/lbs of tourqe in a real truck, not some toy.


since when did ridgelines cots $50k? thats what a 4x4 turdblowdiesel
with all the goodies costs from one of the big 3. not american 3... just
big 3. and theyre all made in mexico anyway.

oh, wait... toyota is #2. hm. what turbodiesel do they offer?
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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John Horner
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> The Honda beats the other two like a drum in resale value.
>


There is absolutely no way to know what the resale value of Ridgelines
several years from now is going to be. It is a brand new model in a segment
Honda has never been in before.

John


 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Kent Finnell
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"tony kujawa" <tjktjk2003@clappdico.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message
> news:1114816847.926246.150320@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
>> one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.

>
>
> F the overpriced Ridgeline. Go buy a 4x4 turbodiesel from one of the big
> 3
> for the same price if you watch your options. Same gas mileage and 600
> ft/lbs of tourqe in a real truck, not some toy.
>


Well, I did a little home work and the Ridgeline RL (base model) does real
well against the Ford Explorer Sport Trac 4x4and the Toyota Tacoma 4x4
Double Cab V6 Automatic, similarly equipped.

The RL is about the same price as the Ford ($28,215 vs 28,305). The Toyota
is about $3,100 higher than either.

The RL is lighter and has more horsepower than either of the other two, but
the Toyota does have a torque advantage. The RL gets slightly better gas
mileage. The Honda beats the other two like a drum in resale value.

The RL has the advantage of greater interior space. Its bed length is only
0.3 inches less than the Tacoma's while 10 inches greater than the Ford's!
The bed width for each, respectively, is 20.7. 19.7, and 18.0 -- advantage,
Honda.

The maximum towing capacity for the RL is 5,000 lbs; 5,080 for the Explorer
and 6,500 for the Toyota -- advantage Tacoma (but for 3 grand more?)

Maximum payload for each -- 1,549, 1,480, and 1,405.

The RL, even though the base model, comes with a lot of standard equipment
that is either optional or not available on the other two.

Here I've compared different types of apples, not apples and oranges. The
Ridgeline is a medium weight AWD truck that can be used for work and
shouldn't be compared to the Tundra or the Titan. I'm not sure what the
Sport Trac is supposed to be, an SUV disguised as a truck or a truck trying
to be an SUV. The Tacoma is comparable to the Ridgeline, IMO.

The Dodge Dakota doesn't compare well with any of them, but the Nissan
Frontier does.


--
Kent Finnell
From the Music City USA


 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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tony kujawa
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"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114816847.926246.150320@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
> one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.



F the overpriced Ridgeline. Go buy a 4x4 turbodiesel from one of the big 3
for the same price if you watch your options. Same gas mileage and 600
ft/lbs of tourqe in a real truck, not some toy.


 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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SoCalMike
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John Horner wrote:

> duty job of picking up supplies for a bit of weekend gardening. The
> original poster is looking for a heavy duty truck for carry large loads up
> and down mountain passes. That is not the Ridgeline's design target.


i think the OP knows this and is trolling.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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John Horner
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"Nightdude" <nightdude@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Totally clueless. It's NOT derived from the same platform. It has its own.
> Even the engine is a bit different.
>
> Only issue with the Ridgeline is that it's not made to go into heavy duty
> offroading.
>


I think you need to go back to school Dude.

Note that I chose my words very carefully. Honda is putting out lots of
marketing mumbo-jumbo to try and hide the Ridgeline's roots, but it clearly
is *derived from* the same platform as the Odyssey, Pilot and MDX.

Honda welded extra reinforcements onto the unibody to kinda-sorta make a
frame for the vehicle, much like is sometimes done when making coupes and
sedans into convertibles.

This is not a ground-up heavy duty pickup truck design such as Nissan did
when developing the Titan/Armada family.

Don't get me wrong, I think Honda is onto something for the many buyers who
buy a pickup truck as a style statement and/or for the occasional moderate
duty job of picking up supplies for a bit of weekend gardening. The
original poster is looking for a heavy duty truck for carry large loads up
and down mountain passes. That is not the Ridgeline's design target.

John


 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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In article <JXSce.15747$gA5.963224@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"Nightdude" <nightdude@rogers.com> wrote:

> Totally clueless. It's NOT derived from the same platform.


Absolutely the Ridgeline comes from the same global platform that
spawned the Accord, Odyssey, MDX, and Pilot.

And the engine *is* the same as the Odyssey engine.

Thanks for playing. Next time, do a little research.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Nightdude
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Totally clueless. It's NOT derived from the same platform. It has its own.
Even the engine is a bit different.

Only issue with the Ridgeline is that it's not made to go into heavy duty
offroading.

"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in
> message news:1114816847.926246.150320@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
>> one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.
>>

>
> The Ridgeline is derived from the Honda Minivan/SUV platform and it is not
> really designed for the serious work truck market. The others you
> mentioned are targeted at the heavy work truck market, as are the Ford and
> Chevy/GMC offerings.
>
> John
>
>



 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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In article <3ZWdna1l4svaVu_fRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
SoCalMike <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
> > Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
> > one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.
> >

> ram 3500 crewcab dually with a cummins turbo diesel.
>
> or an international CXT.


I agree.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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SoCalMike
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Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!! wrote:
> Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
> one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.
>

ram 3500 crewcab dually with a cummins turbo diesel.

or an international CXT.
 
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ridgeline vs. Ram vs. Tundra vs. Titan

Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.

 
Old May 6, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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tony kujawa
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"SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> tony kujawa wrote:
> > "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in

message
> > news:1114816847.926246.150320@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
> >>one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.

> >
> >
> >
> > F the overpriced Ridgeline. Go buy a 4x4 turbodiesel from one of the

big 3
> > for the same price if you watch your options. Same gas mileage and 600
> > ft/lbs of tourqe in a real truck, not some toy.

>
> since when did ridgelines cots $50k? thats what a 4x4 turdblowdiesel
> with all the goodies costs from one of the big 3. not american 3... just
> big 3. and theyre all made in mexico anyway.
>
> oh, wait... toyota is #2. hm. what turbodiesel do they offer?


I said if you watch your options, $35K is attainable you retard.



 
Old May 6, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Kent Finnell
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"tony kujawa" <tjktjk2003@clappdico.com> wrote in message
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>
> "SoCalMike" <mikein562athotmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0uCdnZgHHJlGreXfRVn-qg@comcast.com...
>> tony kujawa wrote:
>> > "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in

> message
>> > news:1114816847.926246.150320@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> >>Which of these would be the best work truck, hauling lumber, etc? Also
>> >>one that can tow 5000lbs up mtns without a problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > F the overpriced Ridgeline. Go buy a 4x4 turbodiesel from one of the

> big 3
>> > for the same price if you watch your options. Same gas mileage and 600
>> > ft/lbs of tourqe in a real truck, not some toy.

>>
>> since when did ridgelines cots $50k? thats what a 4x4 turdblowdiesel
>> with all the goodies costs from one of the big 3. not american 3... just
>> big 3. and theyre all made in mexico anyway.
>>
>> oh, wait... toyota is #2. hm. what turbodiesel do they offer?

>
> I said if you watch your options, $35K is attainable you retard.
>
>

RT ................................... Starting MSRP $27,700
RTS .................................. Starting MSRP $30,075
RTL .................................. Starting MSRP $31,490
RTL w/ Moonroof ............. Starting MSRP $32,640
RTL w/ Moonroof & Nav .. Starting MSRP $34,640

Add $515 for delivery. Only then does the MSRP go over $35k on the RTL w/
Moonroof & Nav. Hog wild and pig crazy, loaded to the hilt $43,682 not
counting accessory installation (deal with the dealer on that).

Now the last is a Ridgeline trimmed to the hilt with a freaking moonroof
which no "working" truck needs. The base RT is well trimmed. Let's compare
apples to apples here, not apples to watermelons. Honda classifies the RL
as a light truck and in no way should be compared to a honking turbodiesel.
It's not built nor designed to compete with Hummers and Cummings Diesel
powered 4x4s. It can hold its own with trucks in its class, V6 powered 4x4
4 door Toyotas, Dodges, Nissans, Chevies, and Fords. You may not like it.
If not, don't buy it. Quit trying to shove YOUR OPINION down everyone's
throat, retard your own bad self.


--
Kent Finnell, from the Music City, USA

"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons
.... for you are crunchy & taste good with ketchup."


 
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