i went to an Acura dealersh!p the other day to look at brand new TSX ( 35G's fully loaded) as i was asking the salesperson about the car he told me bluntly "dude dont get it wait in February or may to get the redesign model of the TSX" i was like ok... what about the TL he said the same thing.... does anyone else know about the new body style of the TSX ?

 

theres spy shots of the TL on vtec.net somewhere. I havent seen anything on the TSX.

 

I heard something about a new TSX, but nothing about a new TL. Ive never seen any pics anywhere on the web...

 

cool... another question where can i find performance parts for the TSX ?

 

Those two cars are definetly in for a full redesign inside and out. I was at the SF INTL. Auto show over the weekend and sat in almost every new car out there. And by far the TL and TSX were one of the biggest let downs to me. The 2008 Accords felt way better inside, way more comfortable and spacious compared to the TL. The TL wasnt very comfortable and felt cheap and old on the inside. By far Lexus and Infiniti had Acura beat by a mile as far as comfort and technology. Lets hope the new ones are a diffrent story.

 

Not to bash Honda but they need to hire better designers for the Acura line, period. Their designs were great in their day but they have not effectively evolved through the years, hence the old feeling. The designs are nice, but are having a hard time keeping up with the competition. Performance and technology can only take you so far. If the car is ugly no one is going to buy it.

I am not sure how much money Honda has spent on their Acura design studio, but I for one and sick of all the BS coming from Honda about how the center is state of the art, they lead designers is talented etc etc. Time to put up or shut up, or at the least fire the designers and the people that hired them and get better people in there. They can't even come up with a proper design for their next sports car...I mean the ASCC?? Seriously...it was pretty unanimous on the auto show scene and the web that the design was ugly, after all the hype from Honda stating it will be their next halo car like the NSX was.

 

I agree..I have been really dissapointed lately with Acura. They are getting left behind no doubt, its really obvious when you go from a Infifniti G35 sedan to a TL, or a Lexus IS350 or even the new CTS. Time for a total revamp in there sedans. There SUV are nice though, both the RDX and MDX are pretty legit.

 

Good point, I forgot about the SUV's yeah the MDX and RDX are pretty competetive from a design standpoint. Though I'm still on the fence about the front end of the MDX...that giant batmobile looking chrome grill thing kinda scares young children. hehe

 

Yeah the grill on the MDX is ok, it kinda takes some warming up to. My neihbor has a new MDX so whenever i go outside i always take a look at it, i really like the side and back.

 

from what i ve heard from the dealer the new TSX will be just as big as the recent TL's...

 

i heard that there will be a tsx type-s option with sh-awd and the turbo 4 from the RDX tuned to 260 hp. Prolly $35k+ tho.

 

God damn that would s!ck... if they do come out with that option

 

check out these spy photos and article!!!!

Spy Shots: 2009 Acura TSX - Autoblog

 

I dont know what to think about those Spy Shots because the car is so covered..Hopefully soon there will be less camoed cars coming out.

 

Guys, as much as I agree with you, keep in mind how long TSX and TL are on the market in present configuration!
Personally I adore TL for Alfa Romeo themed design! If you are going to "steal", steal from the best in design - Italians.
Honda was never about setting trends in wild designs and new directions. It was always function and ergonomics over style.
Nobody, nobody matched NSX for ergonomics and 320 degree visibility out of driver seat! For Christ sake that car ruled for 10 years lacking 100's bhp behind Porsche's and Ferrari's yet it was right there with them in lap times! I will buy an NSX one day and keep it forever just like I am my CRX.
TSX has one of the most beautiful, understated interior designs. TL close second. Everything is within your reach and visible. No small buttons to look for!
New IS is as roomy inside as my 2006 Civic EX sedan!!! Joke! I went to Lexus test drive and pushed them to the point of getting warned of being thrown out! IS 350 flies, but space sucks! May as well get a sport coupe of some kind!
Infinity G line up is nice and handles great, but space is lacking again to my taste. I know it is down to personal taste.
Honda just knows how to push dashboard toward the windshield and away from the passengers giving you open feel instead of being crammed over.
My 1990 CRX is so spacious up front! Unmatched even today! Everything within short reach. Best seats! I could spend days driving comfortably (unlike Fit!!!-working on few gadgets to cure that!).

And engines? Big size is nice, but if you are not dipping into VTEC range to often and let the car come up to speed gradually when you can, it will be much kinder on your wallet than Infinity or Lexus by the time you pull to the pump.
Again, I was never into tons of horsepower. I liked making monkey's out of 900 bhp 3000 GT VR-4's, 500+bhp RX-7, blown Mustangs,..... in the canyons and autoX. Piss on all that power when 130bhp CRX with Koni's, ST sways, Kg/mm springs, 15"x7" OZ and 205/50/15 Yokohama 008 RS's can take corners 15-20mph higher and is still on full throttle when those guys are stomping on the brakes! By the time those guys get to the apex and floor them I am using my stock rotors and ceramic pads entering into next turn! 20 feet ahead in one corner, 35 feet in another, 50 after that,.... you get the picture! LOL!
Let me give you practical example. in 1994, from the resting area on Mulholland down to the Rock Store I passed that 3000 GT and pulled away. I parked at the Rock Store, went inside, purchased an ice cream and licked the s..t out of it before 3000 GT parked next to me with the driver jumping out in front of my car pointing at the hood and demanding to see the turbo! I opened the hood and let him search for it. His passenger was rolling on the floor laughing along with about 50-60 bikers.
Balance and weight is the key to me.

 

I agree with you in the space department..The IS is SMALL inside it feels like a coupe, i felt squished and im 5'6" lol..The G sedan was better then the IS, but still it was pretty crammed in there. The TL i felt like i could breath in so thats one good thing on the TL.

 

ciburri, do you think the fit is the new crx?

 

Following wise, yes!
There is plenty of current and former CRX owners to attest to that.
Getting more space is a bonus and most of us who were teenagers back then and now have significant others and even families appreciate that versatility.
Handling is on par and superb for econobox. Still gave us room for improvement to us hard core carvers.

Comfort/ergonomics fail due to flat seat, lack of OEM dead pedal and the fact that all of us have long legs and short hands! Seems that as a world wide majority we are minority to Honda target driver (WTF!?)! Total contrast to CRX! I am working on some things that will change that.

Power is lacking! CRX had just about the same power, but hundreds of pounds less. It did not have electronic throttle body and an ECU with a mind of its own! Back then it seems like engines were built with about 70-80% of usable power as optimal operating load. Today they are maxed out. Every component is at its near peak. CRX responded great to good spark plugs, Nology wires or ignition computers, cams, headers, even just additional braided ground wire from the head to the chassis! I still run it like that! Fit barely makes any changes noticeable! I am not spending $300 to gain 2hp! Forced induction at $3-5K only gains 30-50bhp!

To keep things in perspective, Fit was made to be economical while CRX was pitched as performance car as Si and economical as HF.

Overall Fit is a great replacement to us in 30-ish age range with "baggage"! LOL!
I just hope that new model does not turn into another Del Sol debacle! Who the hell is in new Fit/Jazz focus group?! Do we need to go from 5 available cup holders to 10! Do we need another 80 lb glass roof panel that can't even open?!

With that sad, it also puts a smile on my face looking at my striped down, soon to be track ready CRX! I call that pre-mid life crisis sport car fix! I could buy something else used for cheap with more power, but nothing beats the fact that this very car gave me the taste of handling on midnight canyon runs on Mulholland, Yorba Buena, Decker, Piuma,.......!!! Autocross trying to take on Bill Endicott, a 5 or 6 time national autocross champion in C Street Prepared! He now drives touring class cars for King Motorsport. Those were the days!

My advice to everybody who still has one is to keep it. My buddy can't regret enough for selling his MK1 GTI and he drives decked out R32 now!

CRX lives on!

 

i agree with ciburri, you gotta cut acura some slack, the designs themselves are oldschool hence the 'old' feeling.


if you don't think acura knows that the accord is encroaching on TL territory, they do.


but despite that fact, the cars themselves are very nice to pilot, very ergonomic and not as expensive as the competition. I expect a nice revamp like they did with the RDX/MDX.

as far as looks go...thats totally subjective guys. YOU could think the design guys at acura suck, but has that stopped them from selling cars that are just SOOO outdated and SOOO outperformed by the competiton? no. Looks are subjective, and for every tl/tsx look hater, there is an equal amount of people who think the IS, g35, and Bmw 3 series look ugly too. (I happen to like all of them though, but th tl, and 3 series really take it home for me.)

 

Exactly! Honda design strategy is not to be flashy out the box as much as other brands. They tailor to a different crowd! With that sad it didn't take long for the crowd to figure out that lowering, tinting windows and maybe changing wheels would make cleanest looking rides that turn heads away from flashier factory brands! It is what is under the skin that counts!
Just look at the RL. Phenomenal engineering and technology in on a first glance subtle look, but if you start analyzing design details it grows on you. Test drive it and if you can afford it you would buy it! Trust me. Go test drive it! LOL!