I've been looking for an 06 accord 4 cyl with leather and navi in a 5 speed
manual, I negociated between 2 different dealers and got the price down to
23,300. seems like a pretty good deal, what do you guys (and or gals, lets
not be sexist) think about this?

 

The Navi seem over priced. Personally, I save the $1800 and use $600 of the
savings to get a portable Roadmate 300 Navi. However, you'll need a computer
with internet access to download maps into the Roadmate.

Pars

"Dr Nick" <Drnick5@cox.net> wrote in message
news:fV0We.10619$Ix4.3197@okepread03...
> I've been looking for an 06 accord 4 cyl with leather and navi in a 5
speed
> manual, I negociated between 2 different dealers and got the price down to
> 23,300. seems like a pretty good deal, what do you guys (and or gals, lets
> not be sexist) think about this?
>
>

 

But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.

Dick

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:03:38 -0400, "Pars" <sdaro(remove)@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>The Navi seem over priced. Personally, I save the $1800 and use $600 of the
>savings to get a portable Roadmate 300 Navi. However, you'll need a computer
>with internet access to download maps into the Roadmate.
>
>Pars
>
>"Dr Nick" <Drnick5@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:fV0We.10619$Ix4.3197@okepread03...
>> I've been looking for an 06 accord 4 cyl with leather and navi in a 5
>speed
>> manual, I negociated between 2 different dealers and got the price down to
>> 23,300. seems like a pretty good deal, what do you guys (and or gals, lets
>> not be sexist) think about this?
>>
>>
>

 

"Dick" <LeadWinger> wrote in message
news:j5uhi1h56ms9mouns049ml67f3e1lun4pl@4ax.com...
> But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
> built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
> your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.
>

I don't think so. My feeling is that the Roadmate 300 will blow away any
other Nav system out there. I heard that Honda uses an Alpine system for
their Navi and it's one of the best in the market, but I'd be surprised if
it's as good at the Roadmate 300.

Pars

> Dick
>
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:03:38 -0400, "Pars" <sdaro(remove)@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >The Navi seem over priced. Personally, I save the $1800 and use $600 of
the
> >savings to get a portable Roadmate 300 Navi. However, you'll need a
computer
> >with internet access to download maps into the Roadmate.
> >
> >Pars
> >
> >"Dr Nick" <Drnick5@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:fV0We.10619$Ix4.3197@okepread03...
> >> I've been looking for an 06 accord 4 cyl with leather and navi in a 5
> >speed
> >> manual, I negociated between 2 different dealers and got the price down
to
> >> 23,300. seems like a pretty good deal, what do you guys (and or gals,
lets
> >> not be sexist) think about this?
> >>
> >>
> >
>

 

Dick said
> But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
> built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
> your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.

No, you get more for your money with portables. Technology marches on,
and the built-in GPS systems for automobiles can't change every few
months. New handhelds come out frequently, but the car makers don't
change designs in mid-year very often.


Casey

 

But after-market GPS systems aren't integrated with the onboard
computer and devices, i.e. you can control stereo, AC, etc. by voice or
have access to various data.

 

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:58:47 -0500, Casey <cclremovethispart@cox.net>
wrote:

>Dick said
>> But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
>> built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
>> your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.
>
>No, you get more for your money with portables. Technology marches on,
>and the built-in GPS systems for automobiles can't change every few
>months. New handhelds come out frequently, but the car makers don't
>change designs in mid-year very often.
>
>Casey

Let's not overlook the fact that the Honda system is updated with a
new DVD every year (If you buy it.) And that's not just new map data.
I don't remember my Garmin being updated that often.The Nav system in
our '03 Accord is 2-years old, and I haven't seen any need for a new
one. And let me see your portable take a voice command to change the
temperature on the passenger side A/C, or some 200 other commands to
run your systems by voice. It's not just a GPS navigation system. We
won't even get into the PDA functions, gas mileage calculations, etc.

And let's not forget that portable GPS units that are anywhere near
equivalent to car systems (Like the StreetPilot 2720) are pretty
pricey themselves. I doubt that you would be buying another one every
few months.

Dick

 

"Dick" <LeadWinger> wrote in message
news:btcki151tqrt92k1knf7s4ur3jgueiv0ps@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:58:47 -0500, Casey <cclremovethispart@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Dick said
>>> But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
>>> built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
>>> your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.
>>
>>No, you get more for your money with portables. Technology marches on,
>>and the built-in GPS systems for automobiles can't change every few
>>months. New handhelds come out frequently, but the car makers don't
>>change designs in mid-year very often.
>>
>>Casey
>
> Let's not overlook the fact that the Honda system is updated with a
> new DVD every year (If you buy it.) And that's not just new map data.
> I don't remember my Garmin being updated that often.The Nav system in
> our '03 Accord is 2-years old, and I haven't seen any need for a new
> one. And let me see your portable take a voice command to change the
> temperature on the passenger side A/C, or some 200 other commands to
> run your systems by voice. It's not just a GPS navigation system. We
> won't even get into the PDA functions, gas mileage calculations, etc.
>
> And let's not forget that portable GPS units that are anywhere near
> equivalent to car systems (Like the StreetPilot 2720) are pretty
> pricey themselves.

StreetPilot has some cool bells and wistles. But, I think then RoadMate 300
is still the better deal at about 3/5 the price. One of the cool things
about the Roadmade,
is that you can turn off the voice prompt, but the unit has all the
necessary heads-up display and prompts to pin point your next move. The
voice over can be very annoying, especially when you're a delivery driver
and already know all the best routes through the city. Plus, it interferes
with the stereo music.

Considering that the Accord's Navi system is also a Command Centre for the
accessories, I suppose it's not possible to put an exact $$$ value for that
kind of service.

Pars

> few months.
>
> Dick

 

Casey wrote:
> Dick said
>> But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
>> built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
>> your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.
>
> No, you get more for your money with portables. Technology marches on,
> and the built-in GPS systems for automobiles can't change every few
> months. New handhelds come out frequently, but the car makers don't
> change designs in mid-year very often.

the way things are going???

youll be carrying a phone with built-in GPS, MP3player, camera, and
bluetooth. car stereos will pick up the bluetooth signal and play your
MP3s, and will give you turn-by-turn directions via the GPS. pull up
next to a hottie at a red light, and take her picture!

 

> Let's not overlook the fact that the Honda system is updated with a
> new DVD every year (If you buy it.) And that's not just new map data.
> I don't remember my Garmin being updated that often.The Nav system in

Garmin's maps are updated once a year, firmware updates can be every
month when the device is new, they can include fixes for rare problems
or functionality additions.

> And let's not forget that portable GPS units that are anywhere near
> equivalent to car systems (Like the StreetPilot 2720) are pretty
> pricey themselves. I doubt that you would be buying another one every
> few months.

Still at least half to 1/3rd of the price of built in systems.
It all depends on your personality, my 5 year old StreetPilot III is
still driving around while I have a StreetPilot 2610 now ...

 

SoCalMike wrote:
> Casey wrote:
>
>> Dick said
>>
>>> But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
>>> built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
>>> your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.
>>
>>
>> No, you get more for your money with portables. Technology marches
>> on, and the built-in GPS systems for automobiles can't change every
>> few months. New handhelds come out frequently, but the car makers
>> don't change designs in mid-year very often.
>
>
> the way things are going???
>
> youll be carrying a phone with built-in GPS, MP3player, camera, and
> bluetooth. car stereos will pick up the bluetooth signal and play your
> MP3s, and will give you turn-by-turn directions via the GPS. pull up
> next to a hottie at a red light, and take her picture!

I've been doing that since last December! ;)

 

In article <j5uhi1h56ms9mouns049ml67f3e1lun4pl@4ax.com>, LeadWinger says...
>
>
>But, the portables don't have anywhere near the capability of the
>built-in Nav. It's true they aren't cheap, but you do get value for
>your money. Just depends on how much the technology is worth.

What capabilities does the built in have that is missing form a portable?
--------------
Alex

 

In article <1126836515.447127.167130@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups .com>,
javaguy1974@hotmail.com says...
>
>
>But after-market GPS systems aren't integrated with the onboard
>computer and devices, i.e. you can control stereo, AC, etc. by voice or
>have access to various data.

That's a plus. Because if the NAV goes bad, your stereo, AC , etc will also go
south with it. Why would you want NAV integrated with those other devices?
---------------
Alex

 

In article <btcki151tqrt92k1knf7s4ur3jgueiv0ps@4ax.com>, LeadWinger says...

>Let's not overlook the fact that the Honda system is updated with a
>new DVD every year (If you buy it.)

Price the DVD.

>And that's not just new map data.
>I don't remember my Garmin being updated that often.The Nav system in
>our '03 Accord is 2-years old, and I haven't seen any need for a new
>one.

>And let me see your portable take a voice command to change the
>temperature on the passenger side A/C, or some 200 other commands to
>run your systems by voice.

Let's see you take your system to another car. If there is a passenger with me
who needs the AC adjusted, they can easily do it themselves.

>It's not just a GPS navigation system. We
>won't even get into the PDA functions, gas mileage calculations, etc.

>And let's not forget that portable GPS units that are anywhere near
>equivalent to car systems (Like the StreetPilot 2720) are pretty
>pricey themselves. I doubt that you would be buying another one every
>few months.

True, the good GPS units are not cheap. The 2720 can be had for somewhere
between $800 & $900. Substantially less than the Honda option.
-----------
Alex

 

Alex Rodriguez wrote:

> That's a plus. Because if the NAV goes bad, your stereo, AC , etc will also go
> south with it. Why would you want NAV integrated with those other devices?

My thoughts exactly. It seems that a lot of cars today are being made with
more and more electronic stuff, which means more stuff to possibly go wrong
regardless of the car manufacturer. And who said high technology was
supposed to make things easier and more efficient? LOFL!!!

I'll stick with my mostly bare bones '93 Accord, thank you very much. :-)

 

In article <prGdnQbbqM9B1bfenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@rogers.com>,
sdaroremove@hotmail.com says...

>StreetPilot has some cool bells and wistles. But, I think then RoadMate 300
>is still the better deal at about 3/5 the price. One of the cool things
>about the Roadmade,
>is that you can turn off the voice prompt, but the unit has all the
>necessary heads-up display and prompts to pin point your next move. The
>voice over can be very annoying, especially when you're a delivery driver
>and already know all the best routes through the city. Plus, it interferes
>with the stereo music.

If you are delivery driver who already knows all the best routes, why do
you use the device?
---------------
Alex

 

What is a probability that it goes bad? If it is on a warranty that's
not a big deal. If maintained properly shouldn't go bad. If it does,
well that's the price I'm willing to pay. It's a convenience to turn
off/on AC by voice or change radio stations. For the same reason I'd
like to have a cell phone that can integrate wirelessly with car audio
system etc. Also, by integrating GPS unit with onboard computer you can
(possibly) have access to various diagnostic information which
otherwise wouldn't be available.

 

>voice over can be very annoying, especially when you're a delivery driver
> >and already know all the best routes through the city. Plus, it
interferes
> >with the stereo music.
>
> If you are delivery driver who already knows all the best routes, why do
> you use the device?

Most of my delivery are across city (Toronto..which is a substantial city in
size) or between cities. So, selecting the fastest route across the city
comes with experience. But when you get close to your destination and you're
zig-zagging through little in-sides streets, or you're having difficulty
finding the street numbers, then the Nav comes into play. Also, if you want
to put yourself on cruise control, and not pay attention to your route
(usually happens when I got cell call...or hung over from the night before),
I'll simply blindly follow the Nav's instructions.

Also, the time it take's to punch in a address in the Nav system, is much
quicker then looking up the address in the map book. Then I can click the
'view' button and quickly scroll through the route to be taken. And since I
already know the city, simply viewing the pre-generated route table will
give me an idea of the exact location of my next destination. Or, if I'm not
sure of the streets on the routing table, I can switch the view back to the
'map screen' and scroll around to examine the surrounding roads. The
interesting thing about the above functionality is that it all can be done
while the Nav is offline and thus doesn't have a fix on the satellite.

Pars

> ---------------
> Alex
>

 

>If you are delivery driver who already knows all the best routes, why do
>you use the device?

The best routes change with time (traffic, etc.). Some GPS devices can
receive traffic control signals and provide dynamic routing.

 

Alex Rodriguez wrote:
> True, the good GPS units are not cheap. The 2720 can be had for somewhere
> between $800 & $900. Substantially less than the Honda option.
> -----------

costco has a garmin handheld with a color screen for $199. 32MB of built
in memory, which would pretty much cover every street from LA to san
diego, and over to vegas. if not more. the 5MB in my non-color sporttrak
is good for almost all of LA and orange county.