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My Volvo 944T, the Other Thing I've Been Up To
Link to original thread: 0Dollar944GL Summer DD - Turbobricks Forums
Hi kiddies! Been a while since I have trolled through these forums. Nothing to report from my GE: it's still stock, and still under warranty, so it will be a while until I get around to screwing around with it. Maybe I'll throw on some coilovers and decent wheels. So far, it's been getting a lot of love from curbs and bad parkers (in this regard: fuck the city!!). In any case, this dropped on my lap: a '92 Volvo 944 GL. It had a crappy Siemens fuel injection system, so I decided not to bother with it and traded it for a '94 Turbo beater for my resto mod. I was stoked because this year car comes with an upgraded engine with 13mm cross-section connecting rods and piston oil squirters, which significantly reduce piston temps and significantly reduce wear on the cylinder bores. Sadly it was replaced by an '87 block as a previous owner neglected it to the point of seizing the engine. Also, the interior was beat to shit. My work is cut out for me. Anyways, here is the current list of mods: 251xxx miles Engine and management: -Volvo V-grind camshaft (11.27mm lift, 245* duration) -Lancer Evo 8 intercooler -NGK BPR7ES plugs -Ignition and fuel chips -Bosch Brown Top injectors from a Mustang SVO (38lbs) -Ported MHI TD04HL-15G turbo (currently running 12ish PSI. Bad boost fade.) -VDO Cockpit boost gauge -PLX Wideband and DM-6 gauge -"Custom" intercooler piping and new PCV lines -OBX downpipe-back exhaust Brakes/suspension: -SS lines -PBR ceramic pads (Stock the front brakes are 11" in diameter and 1" thick, plenty for this 3200 lb pig) -IPD poly radius arm bushings Other: -Glass sunroof from an S90 -Kenwood Exceleon HU with some 5.25s and 6x9s, to get some help soon -Black eggcrate grille from a 740T Pretty much everything else stock. To install in a couple weeks: Cherry turbos chassis brace -IPD 1" front and rear sway bars -S80 16x7" steelies, ET11 rear, 17 front, with Riken 205/55R16s -Bilstein HD shocks and struts -Chop the springs (I promise this is not nearly as much of a hack as it sounds) -E-code headlights -S90 taillights -Adjustable panhard bar -Adjustable torque rods and reinforced rear subframe. -Accumulator mod for trans longevity As the project moves along, I will be replacing worn out/ugly bits. So far, the car did a 15.2 quarter mile at 89.3 MPH, with the stock exhaust, off cam timing (forgot to reset the belt tensioner--oops), and boost fading from 12/13PSI to 9 at higher engine speeds (will reset wastegate preload). Right now it's running pig rich at WOT (10:1 AFR). This will keep the motor from pinging/making too much low end torque and subsequently bending the rods, however it's too rich. I'll get it up to 11 for a good compromise. I'm expecting a mid 14-second run by the next time I go to the drag strip. Nothing to see here, move along... https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...73128485_n.jpg More pics up soon. |
Some pics from the car that I traded for this, and other assorted pics:
The 92 GL (slooooooow): https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...01004614_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...88532267_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...27206526_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...52498759_n.jpg Again, atrociously slow. It was clean, but I couldn't get past how terrible it was to drive when I didn't want to be all relaxed: <iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WBojC7xBRxM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qR0arpdoh40" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KfoBe_7rmzY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Volvo and Fit. Yes, there is a reason for joining this forum ;) https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...63822786_n.jpg |
I have an 84 760 intercooled turbo sitting outside between the house ant the barn.
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84 is a good year. The B23FT in that thing should be able to put down 400whp with the bottom end untouched.
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Solving more issues...
Pics of 20 year old electronics, and some newer electronics.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...64163978_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...11645100_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...92700114_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...39208638_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...63312683_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...82423359_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...41098642_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...45911861_n.jpg Note how clean it is in the head :) Also, the nut holding the cam gear was so overtightened that I had to cut out the rear T-belt cover, clamp the thing down to the floor with my pipe wrench and use a breaker bar to release it. Needless to say I'm never going to run stock camshaft again. Still pinging, swapped stock 7 heat range Bosch plugs for new NGK's. This is what I found: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...41261776_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...31948184_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...23472267_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...80246045_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...91964839_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...11508746_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...80246045_n.jpg If they weren't completely full of crap, they were worn to nothing. I'm wondering how it even ran smoothly in the first place... |
New Door, trunklid...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...17396503_n.jpg
Yeah, that's gone. also, can you imagine driving 60 miles with a blown turbo that sounded like it was sawing itself? It sucked. Turns out the compressor bypass valve had a hole in it, thus making the compressor stall and tear itself to shreds. Video here Derp... Replaced it with a sizeably bigger 15G. Not huge, but good enough for super quick spool and 250 whp. Plenty for right now. So, out with the old https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...72456297_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...08125907_n.jpg In with the "new." https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...29557496_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...62867871_n.jpg Ported the turbine housing for better breathing up top (still spools fully by like, 2300 RPM) https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...08455222_n.jpg VS stock... https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...26447909_n.jpg Evo 8 IC install: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...57873254_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...98761011_n.jpg Browntops: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...56007826_n.jpg Timeslip. My car is #303I. Should be breaking into the 14s next Friday: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...24228173_n.jpg |
Sunroof
Also, sunroof is in. Quite easy task, somehow.
Donor car: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...82403254_n.jpg Sunroof out: https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...90251347_n.jpg New sunroof in: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...72328251_n.jpg Goodbye! https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...70311463_n.jpg Cleaned up nicely after this pic. Will upload pics of the headliner next week. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...78189960_n.jpg My to do list for summer break (basically get all of this done by the 21st of June): My to-do list for next week: -Install new downpipe with extra O2 sensor bung. -Trim exhaust and make it tuck the way it should. -Reset MBC to zero and add preload to wastegate actuator (right now it's at like 4-5mm, gonna set it to 9-10). -Replace alternator -Cut springs -Camber mod -Install HD's -Install IPD sway bars -Install lower brace -Install front driveshaft -Replace shifter assembly withthe arches?) -Install S90 tails -Realign headliner -Install ambient temp sensor Big maybes, probably not gonna get around to these: -Install e-codes -Install amplifier and subs That's more or less caught up. Will post pics of the headliner, somewhat acceptable interior, and exhaust next week. I'll also get some pics of it washed, as the moonroof looks effing disgusting in that pic. |
During the 1980s Volvo was using bio degradable wiring from a British source.. Lucas electrics I suppose, "The prince of darkness" is what anything from Lucas was referred to by the owners of British cars and motorcycles back in the 60s and 70s.. There was a company in Arizona that made complete replacement wiring harnesses for the 2 series cars but they never got around to doing any for the 7 series.. Down here the wiring was a big problem and even worse fo the Turbo models because of the heat.
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Awesome. I love these things, what's the ultimate goal for this? Just making something that shouldn't be fast, fast?
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Originally Posted by Texas Coyote
(Post 1107161)
During the 1980s Volvo was using bio degradable wiring from a British source.. Lucas electrics I suppose, "The prince of darkness" is what anything from Lucas was referred to by the owners of British cars and motorcycles back in the 60s and 70s.. There was a company in Arizona that made complete replacement wiring harnesses for the 2 series cars but they never got around to doing any for the 7 series.. Down here the wiring was a big problem and even worse fo the Turbo models because of the heat.
Dave Barton (DaveBarton.com) sells good low mile replacement harnesses that will live a long time. You could even run a 240 harness from an 88-89 model.
Originally Posted by mike410b
(Post 1107165)
Awesome. I love these things, what's the ultimate goal for this? Just making something that shouldn't be fast, fast?
I really don't know if there is an ultimate goal. I would love to keep it long enough to swap in an S90 interior and run proper coilovers. I'm talking to a guy in Germany to help me import a late manual gearbox--the fabled M90 in Volvo circles; they can handle around 500 whp if you don't beat on them too hard with slicks and constant clutch dumps. To go with that I want to eventually build a 16v B230 and an N/A exhaust manifold going into an Evo twin scroll 16G, and a 3" downpipe with electric cutout. That way the car can be nice and quiet most of the time. The reason that I want to run the N/A mani is that it is shaped much better than the turbo mani and it has pulse paired runners. It would be a step in between the flow of a nice tubular header and the reliability of a cast iron manifold. Pics for comparison: Turbo (8v turbo manifold adapted to fit a 16v head): http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5006/...f021fb868b.jpg N/A 8v, note how 1,4 and 2,3 are paired: http://zyrex.org/gallery/d/111709-4/exmani.jpg 16v NA: http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqV,!ls...jFTHw~~_35.JPG More or less what I'm going for, but the TD05HR-16G6 would be much smaller, hence I would rather bottom mount it to have a cleaner/lighter engine bay: http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/DSCN2057.jpg Also, it's not fast until it reliably does 12s ;) |
Nice, I love the old RWD volvos. Really wish I could find clean manual trans 740 IC turbo wagon, but they are a rare bird.
My step dad has a 240 turbo with a bored and cammed Chevy 289 V8. It's not your ordinary Volvo. |
Originally Posted by Potenza
(Post 1107300)
Nice, I love the old RWD volvos. Really wish I could find clean manual trans 740 IC turbo wagon, but they are a rare bird.
My step dad has a 240 turbo with a bored and cammed Chevy 289 V8. It's not your ordinary Volvo. Still, you can swap adapt a T-5 or Getrag 265 for around $1000 plus trans, which is really the way to go. Still, for driving enjoyment manual > auto. |
Originally Posted by harribert
(Post 1107314)
Still, you can swap adapt a T-5 or Getrag 265 for around $1000 plus trans, which is really the way to go.
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Sweet project car!
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A 940 I/C turbo would be great.. I tried for years to get my hands on one but like Potenza said "they are a rare bird" A good friend bought a 940 wagon after his 244 he had $600 dollars invested in was stolen in Austin... He passed away a few years back and his daughter gave it to his brother who I have been told is still driving it.
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Thank you for the kind comments!
Steezo: I'm a man, sorry to disappoint :P The girl in the pics is my wife. Anyhoo, got some work in today -Refitted the exhaust (tailpipes are still crooked, grrr) -Installed new alternator -Readjusted the throttle and kickdown cable linkages (it only opened to ~80% before this. Looks like there is a little bit of extra power there that was untapped during the drag run) -Installed nice pristine gear selector assy -Cleaned idle air control unit -Reworked intake piping some I think I have more or less the breakdown figured out for the rest of the week. Tomorrow: -Rear shocks -Sway bars -Lower chassis brace -Tail lights -Wastegate preload and boost setting reset (15 psi to redline!!!111) -Front driveshaft Thursday: -Springs -Strut inserts -Install wheels and tires Friday: -Shakedown -Watch my buddy Nathan's 16v monster hopefully break 600whp -Drag racing Sometime between next week and August: -Transmission accumulator mod -ecodes |
Nice project. Please keep us posted.
The B230F will pretty much run forever. |
Thank you! I will :)
I need to find some wagon springs. Way too soft in the back. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...81347699_n.jpg Decent pics to come... |
Bigger steelies are on. Thing sticks to the road like you wouldn't believe.
Wheels need paint. I'm thinking either gunmetal or white. What would you suggest? |
Anyhow, more pics.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...31922116_n.jpg Yep, Getting diry. https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...41934338_n.jpg Those hangers don't line up at all. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...21418830_n.jpg Mmmmm, straight through. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...68472976_n.jpg Some of the crap that's going into the car https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...31371480_n.jpg Comparing new vs. old sways: https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...84449742_n.jpg Front is just 2mm thicker than stock, but that's enough to make a huge difference in body lean. https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...29446783_n.jpg Rear was literally night and day, up from 19mm to 25mm. It loves to sidestep the rear end now. Funfunfun! Not much to see, really: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...04333294_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...50977482_n.jpg Should have put a little bit more of preload than that to begin with... https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...93516859_n.jpg ...Much better. Now it holds 15 psi to redline, which caused the cold side IC pipe to spring a massive leak. Big whooshy sounds under boost and literally no go at all. https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...77135269_n.jpg https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...01686939_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...11123012_n.jpg https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...92869855_n.jpg https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...97741031_n.jpg Don's Forester. It's growing on me. Crappy shots with new wheels: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...91277672_n.jpg https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...31401718_n.jpg Patiently waiting for the weather to cooperate in order to take some decent shots. Front needs to come down half an inch or so for sure. As for further work: -Get IC pipes welded -New tie rod ends -New hood -Chop front springs an itty bit more -Align headliner -Front camber mod -Seafoam the motor -Replace fuel sender and in tank pickup pump -Replace in line pump and fuel filter -Fix/Replace leaky steering rack. |
Looking good! I laughed my ass off when I saw the trunk lid badges!
I would keep the steelies how they are - sleeper mode! |
Originally Posted by mhadden
(Post 1110337)
Looking good! I laughed my ass off when I saw the trunk lid badges!
I would keep the steelies how they are - sleeper mode! Another pic I forgot to post: https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...56377517_n.jpg I know it looks super ghetto, but these cars have linear springs that respond very well to cutting. They pretty much yield the same spring rate, travel, and drop as $350 lowering springs, without any additional drawbacks, really. The Bilsteins handle them very well. |
Sorted some of my intercooler piping situation/simplified the routing for moar reliability. One of the couplers had a big massive hole in it so I glued it shut with cement and wrapped it with electrical tape, then went inside and ordered some proper 4-ply blue silicone couplers. Boosted like never before, and there was a big massive lean spot (15:1 http://forums.turbobricks.com/images/smilies/eek2.gif ) that caused some scary sounding detonation. Will reset ECU and try again. Oh yeah, the ghetto rigging held together for about 10 minutes before letting go http://forums.turbobricks.com/images/smilies/laugh2.gif Can't wait to get my stuff in the mail.
Pic of simplified coldside: https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...62965638_n.jpg Broken shit quality coupler (intercooler's hotside) : https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...57217556_n.jpg Both black couplers pictured are getting replaced. Hopefully RSI has a pipe bead roller so I don't have to mess with hairspray every time I reinstall the intake piping. |
Got that sorted out^ 15 psi is running too rich @ <10:1 at WOT, so the stock injectors went back in. Quite a bit quicker now at 11.5-12:1.
Some pics...Need to lower the front more/do stiffer springs in the back... https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...95898824_n.jpg https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos...49333389_n.jpg |
Mini update: smoothed out my WB gauge install. Also, pics of deghettofied headliner. Hey look, a little blue Honda!
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...36337117_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...47628943_n.jpg And headliner: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...42275457_n.jpg |
It's been a while...
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...23783251_n.jpg So I jacked up the rear end cause it rode like shit (no adjustable rear suspension made it noisy, harsh, and buzzy. Will fix this soon), had a shop break then replace the trans, and finally took it to PIR for a full anger run. Result: 17 slips, most in the 14.1-14.2 region. This one was the shiner, however: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...55479657_n.jpg (Mine is 303I) Proof: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...93221255_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...03509952_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...67844628_n.jpg Oh yes, the Fit got a bath, some clay, sealer, and wax. Poor thing is peppered by dings thanks to assholes running into it when it's parked :( https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...98318715_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...57843708_n.jpg https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...18592331_n.jpg Still needs hours of buffing ^ https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...21445114_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...52167543_n.jpg https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...95791742_n.jpg https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...34553140_n.jpg Swedish Fit ;) https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...51102004_n.jpg |
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...54522984_n.jpg
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...97275425_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...28970635_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...30066003_n.jpg It's come a long way from this... https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...52116623_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...72508179_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...73128485_n.jpg https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...17396503_n.jpg Money shot...The original trunk lid. Wheels are Volvo Canopus with Continental ContiProContact 225/45R17 tires. |
I love that car...
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You would love its party trick: Roast de Pirelli.
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All of the Volvos I've ever driven were just wonderful... I have the remains of 3 of them I need to have hauled off... I've seen a few videos of some outrageous street drifting Volvos..
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A fellow Volvo owner! Nice! I have a 850 wagon myself, did the usual mods: IPD sways, ecu, Bilstein HD and riding on Vogtland springs.
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Not much happening here. Kid on the way. Anyway, got a 3" downpipe made, installed a Truboost, and did some tuning. Here are the results:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...85402197_n.jpg This was done at PRE. Very cool shop. If you live around Portland they are very much worth visiting. Guy I met at cars and coffee that day dynoed his too. It was hilarious. 300 lbs ft at like 2500 RPM. 186 whp. Loved it. |
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