Hyundai & Kia Lied
 

Hyundai and Kia got caught lying about they're great gas mileage. I'll try to post a link, I hope it works.

Hyundai and Kia Acknowledge Overstating the Gas Mileage of Vehicles - NYTimes.com

Unfortunately the penalty is a bit weak. What incentive do they have to not do it again?

the only things going for them was cheap and cheap to run.


that's going to be an expensive blow to their company image. maybe their elephant can scold them by saying 'bad' in korean now.

Hahahah thats right!!! :) honda!

Hope they're working on their grammar there. Isn't English *fun*? :)

Yup, the news caught my attention too. 40 mpg was definitely an attention-getter.

The engineers forgot they used ethanol free gas in their tests so when e10 is used the mpg fell. The test fuel was probably high octane too and done in a controlled environment which in the real world their data does not even come close.

Honda seems to underestimate their mpg. I've alway got better mpg than what they said. You also can't predict how people drive the vehicle too.

That sounds about right. They wanted to use the market ploy about how many of their vehicles get over 40mpg, so they had to do whatever they could to make it happen.

Honda definitely underestimates their mpg. My window sticker said 35 mpg highway, and I have never gotten under 36 with a mix of hwy and city.

I had noticed the discrepancy when Motor Trend had their long-term Elantra for a few months and couldn't seem to break 28 mpg despite their best efforts.

Granted, you can't always account for how people are going to drive a certain car...but I usually take fuel-efficiency ratings with a shaker of salt. The only thing that seems new or even worrying about the Hyundai/Kia "fiasco" is that someone cocked up the test procedures, willingly or otherwise.

There are other manufacturers vehicles that don't measure up in fuel economy on all their vehicles as well, so maybe they should look at those to if they're going to pursue it. One example at least from what I've read is the new Subaru Impreza's average mpg's seem to often be hovering much closer to the city estimates which is upper 20's. yet it's rated at 27 city and 36 highway i believe.

That seems to be the case with any AWD vehicle I have driven. I'm wondering what scenario they got 36mpg with?

I don't get the big fuss. Lots of other automakers are guilty of this. Every new car I've owned thus far doesn't nearly touch the estimated MPG ratings posted on the car pre-sale. IMO, with the amounting of driving my fiance and I do, doesn't really matter anyways. Just as long as the car is reliable and gets CLOSE to decent MPG, we're fine. Hell, MY Mazdapseed 3 gets better MPG than my Fit, however my Fit is cheaper to fill up lol! In the end, if you're REALLY depending on that *estimated* MPG rating, you're pwning yourself from the start.

hahaha that's a funny.

The Impreza MPG estimate has looked fishy to me for a while. I won't be surprised if they catch them out for the same thing. However, they DID just design a new engine family for it, with DI, and downsized by 20% to a 2.0, so it could be legit - the car is supposedly quite slow now..

HOLY TYPO BATMAN lol. Mazdaspeed NOT Mazdapseed lol.

my friend owns a hyundai, he said that hyundai is paying him for the extra gas he is spending lol

are they paying for the car's extra ugliness too?

Of course, all manufacturers do this.

In for results of class action lawsuit.

honda > everyone. haha
damn that sucks. as big of a blow this could end up being for them, I'm sure they'll only get better for it (hopefully) and back it up with some cars that actually get crazy mileage