07 Fit Sport (Wheel/Tire Question)
#1
07 Fit Sport (Wheel/Tire Question)
These are 16's what size tire would I need? Should I look for a wheel with a offset closer to +38. I don't really understand the offset too much. I want good looks so I figured going to 16" would be safe. But with the different offsets It's gets a little confusing. I also going to get a good 50-75k warranty tires. Just need a good safe size to shoot for:
Here is a 15" Wheel closer to stock wondering if I would just want to shoot with the same tire size as stock for wheels like these:
Thanks for the help guys!!!!
Here is a 15" Wheel closer to stock wondering if I would just want to shoot with the same tire size as stock for wheels like these:
Thanks for the help guys!!!!
Last edited by tommyarmour; 01-26-2016 at 01:22 AM.
#3
My wheels look like this(better than hubcaps) but still not worth the risk:
Ive read a lot about these type's of stock wheels getting stole:
I Guess thieves are not too picky: https://www.google.com/search?q=Hond...6vGG_eMQUtM%3A
Last edited by tommyarmour; 01-20-2016 at 07:20 PM.
#4
Do not change the offset. That changes the steering geometry and will be like changing the camber while turning. Kind of like changing the caster, it will change the camber as you turn more and more. This car performs extraordinarily well in handling testing. It is a shame to alter that for looks.
#5
Do not change the offset. That changes the steering geometry and will be like changing the camber while turning. Kind of like changing the caster, it will change the camber as you turn more and more. This car performs extraordinarily well in handling testing. It is a shame to alter that for looks.
This is what I have:
This look is what I want:
Last edited by tommyarmour; 01-20-2016 at 09:17 PM.
#6
I'm at the limit of my reliable knowledge!
I have just begun to understand race car suspension geometry and I recently learned that changing the wheels on the car without paying attention to keeping the same offset is a problem. I'm sure a wheel PRO will pop in here with specifics.
Cheers,
Manning
I have just begun to understand race car suspension geometry and I recently learned that changing the wheels on the car without paying attention to keeping the same offset is a problem. I'm sure a wheel PRO will pop in here with specifics.
Cheers,
Manning
#7
I'm at the limit of my reliable knowledge!
I have just begun to understand race car suspension geometry and I recently learned that changing the wheels on the car without paying attention to keeping the same offset is a problem. I'm sure a wheel PRO will pop in here with specifics.
Cheers,
Manning
I have just begun to understand race car suspension geometry and I recently learned that changing the wheels on the car without paying attention to keeping the same offset is a problem. I'm sure a wheel PRO will pop in here with specifics.
Cheers,
Manning
In the past I have usually stayed with the stock size wheels, and tires. However on the FIT it just seems like they should of came with 16's in the first place. They look quite a bit better. And fill in a bit of space under the fender.
#8
Depending on how much you lower the car in the future and what wheel and tire width you run... you should be able to run a 205 wide tire on a 7 inch wheel with an offset as low as +45mm and not rub at a reasonable height (I.E. Not slammed/stanced/broken). If somewhat closer to stock height you may be able to venture off into numerically lower offsets to widen that track a little more and fill out the fender wells better.
Tire sizes...
If you go with 15s, look into 195/55R15 (stock size) or 205/50R15 (slightly shorter and wider but close) with wheels ranging in 6 to 7 inches in width. If you go with 16s, 205/45R16s with again the same width spec to be safe. So long as your offset is between +45 to +55 you should be fine tastefully (1 to 1.5 inches) lowered with a decent load of passengers/cargo in the car... any lower height or offset, you may have some rubbing issues.
All of this... is false.
Changing offset has ZERO affect on alignment as offset just changes how far out (or sunken in) the wheel is to the vehicle's center line.
Changing offset can widen (or narrow if you go with a higher offset) the car's track width and actually IMPROVE (possibly hinder if lower) handling without affecting caster (the fore/aft tilt of front struts) OR camber (vertical positive or negative tilt a tire/wheel has on vehicle).
I noticed this right off the bat... BUT rather than shame, I'd encourage you to skim around the forum more, check out more technical thread/articles regarding the subject of wheel/tire specs and suspension.
A good site to check out and start learning how different wheel specs measure out will be linked below. Just punch in wheel/tire specs and you'll see how it affects the placement on the vehicle.
Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit
Tire sizes...
If you go with 15s, look into 195/55R15 (stock size) or 205/50R15 (slightly shorter and wider but close) with wheels ranging in 6 to 7 inches in width. If you go with 16s, 205/45R16s with again the same width spec to be safe. So long as your offset is between +45 to +55 you should be fine tastefully (1 to 1.5 inches) lowered with a decent load of passengers/cargo in the car... any lower height or offset, you may have some rubbing issues.
Do not change the offset. That changes the steering geometry and will be like changing the camber while turning. Kind of like changing the caster, it will change the camber as you turn more and more. This car performs extraordinarily well in handling testing. It is a shame to alter that for looks.
Changing offset has ZERO affect on alignment as offset just changes how far out (or sunken in) the wheel is to the vehicle's center line.
Changing offset can widen (or narrow if you go with a higher offset) the car's track width and actually IMPROVE (possibly hinder if lower) handling without affecting caster (the fore/aft tilt of front struts) OR camber (vertical positive or negative tilt a tire/wheel has on vehicle).
I'm at the limit of my reliable knowledge!
I have just begun to understand race car suspension geometry and I recently learned that changing the wheels on the car without paying attention to keeping the same offset is a problem. I'm sure a wheel PRO will pop in here with specifics.
Cheers,
Manning
I have just begun to understand race car suspension geometry and I recently learned that changing the wheels on the car without paying attention to keeping the same offset is a problem. I'm sure a wheel PRO will pop in here with specifics.
Cheers,
Manning
A good site to check out and start learning how different wheel specs measure out will be linked below. Just punch in wheel/tire specs and you'll see how it affects the placement on the vehicle.
Online Wheel and Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo Error | Will They Fit
Last edited by Hootie; 01-20-2016 at 11:52 PM.
#9
I'll admit to being in the middle of sorting all this suspension stuff out with an eye to track cars but I THINK I'm right.
Here is a short youtube that touches on the point. The kid is young but I've seen this elsewhere.
Here is a short youtube that touches on the point. The kid is young but I've seen this elsewhere.
#11
BTW thanks Hootie for the info.
Question, If I were to want to do Suspension (Coilovers) would I just want to stick with 15's on the wheels? Or would the 16's be fine too. Like I said before my mind isn't made up on anything. And I will "NOT" do extreme anything to achieve better looks especially if it's going to cause problems with functionality. I really like the Enkei's but in all reality they are going to look a lot like what I already have. Since they are just sprayed Silver. But they are really light, and great for handling and the track. Which I will probably never get too. I just like the looks of them on a few different Honda's I have seen. I'm more looking for Chrome and good looks with functionality. Too many damn options out there on the net.
Question, If I were to want to do Suspension (Coilovers) would I just want to stick with 15's on the wheels? Or would the 16's be fine too. Like I said before my mind isn't made up on anything. And I will "NOT" do extreme anything to achieve better looks especially if it's going to cause problems with functionality. I really like the Enkei's but in all reality they are going to look a lot like what I already have. Since they are just sprayed Silver. But they are really light, and great for handling and the track. Which I will probably never get too. I just like the looks of them on a few different Honda's I have seen. I'm more looking for Chrome and good looks with functionality. Too many damn options out there on the net.
#13
Need the go ahead!!!!
Back to questions about offset. Almost "NO" aftermarket wheels are the same offset as stock wheels. Anyway as far as I can tell the 2007 Honda Fit Sport has a offset of between 45-55mm.
I found some wheels I think I am going to buy. I just want to hear somebody say its going to be ok, and not rub on my Calipers.
I am thinking about just staying with the 15x7 wheel size. However the offset on these wheels are +35mm that is at least -10mm from the stock wheels. Is that going to be a problem? I don't think it will be but hey I have to ask. Brand new set of 4 for $350. Thats about $200. cheaper than anywhere else. Come out to 87.50 a wheel. Not bad!!!!
Back to questions about offset. Almost "NO" aftermarket wheels are the same offset as stock wheels. Anyway as far as I can tell the 2007 Honda Fit Sport has a offset of between 45-55mm.
I found some wheels I think I am going to buy. I just want to hear somebody say its going to be ok, and not rub on my Calipers.
I am thinking about just staying with the 15x7 wheel size. However the offset on these wheels are +35mm that is at least -10mm from the stock wheels. Is that going to be a problem? I don't think it will be but hey I have to ask. Brand new set of 4 for $350. Thats about $200. cheaper than anywhere else. Come out to 87.50 a wheel. Not bad!!!!
#14
15x7 +35 may rub during hard bumps/heavy loads at stock height, lowering will just worsen the issue. So with this case, those wheels will be placed 20mm AWAY (towards/beyond fender) from the car's centerline and could rub on the rear bumper's mounting tab and/or front fender liner.
The factory 15s and accessory HFP 16s for our Fits both feature a +55 offset. If you are looking with wheel widths and offsets close to that look into some of the older Civic and Integra OEM wheels (excluding EP3 Si and Integra Type R which are 5 lugs) along with BMW-MINI Cooper OEM wheels as other options.
Ok... so riddle me this. Based on what you've previously stated...
Why or how does my caster, camber or toe NOT change AT ALL when I swap between my daily wheel set 195/55R15s on 15x7 +42 wheels, my wet autocross set 205/50R15s with same wheel spec, and R comp wheel set of 225/45R15 on 15x9 +35 front along with a 205/50R15 on 15x7 +35 rear?
The only variables are tire sizes, wheel width, and offset.
Wheel diameter shouldn't be a worry with either size. Focus on your tire size, wheel width and offset. Those will determine where the wheel will be placed in your wheel well.
There's actually a wheel thread or two on here specifically targeted at first generation wheel sets, listing what the wheel/tire spec and suspension modification (if any) with possibly how much the vehicle was lowered. Its listed somewhere in the Fit Shoes section of the forum.
The factory 15s and accessory HFP 16s for our Fits both feature a +55 offset. If you are looking with wheel widths and offsets close to that look into some of the older Civic and Integra OEM wheels (excluding EP3 Si and Integra Type R which are 5 lugs) along with BMW-MINI Cooper OEM wheels as other options.
Why or how does my caster, camber or toe NOT change AT ALL when I swap between my daily wheel set 195/55R15s on 15x7 +42 wheels, my wet autocross set 205/50R15s with same wheel spec, and R comp wheel set of 225/45R15 on 15x9 +35 front along with a 205/50R15 on 15x7 +35 rear?
The only variables are tire sizes, wheel width, and offset.
BTW thanks Hootie for the info.
Question, If I were to want to do Suspension (Coilovers) would I just want to stick with 15's on the wheels? Or would the 16's be fine too. Like I said before my mind isn't made up on anything. And I will "NOT" do extreme anything to achieve better looks especially if it's going to cause problems with functionality. I really like the Enkei's but in all reality they are going to look a lot like what I already have. Since they are just sprayed Silver. But they are really light, and great for handling and the track. Which I will probably never get too. I just like the looks of them on a few different Honda's I have seen. I'm more looking for Chrome and good looks with functionality. Too many damn options out there on the net.
Question, If I were to want to do Suspension (Coilovers) would I just want to stick with 15's on the wheels? Or would the 16's be fine too. Like I said before my mind isn't made up on anything. And I will "NOT" do extreme anything to achieve better looks especially if it's going to cause problems with functionality. I really like the Enkei's but in all reality they are going to look a lot like what I already have. Since they are just sprayed Silver. But they are really light, and great for handling and the track. Which I will probably never get too. I just like the looks of them on a few different Honda's I have seen. I'm more looking for Chrome and good looks with functionality. Too many damn options out there on the net.
There's actually a wheel thread or two on here specifically targeted at first generation wheel sets, listing what the wheel/tire spec and suspension modification (if any) with possibly how much the vehicle was lowered. Its listed somewhere in the Fit Shoes section of the forum.
#15
Thanks again for the info:
I believe the stock offset for the 2007 Honda Fit is +45. Anything from +45 to +53 is recommended.
However when I shop for tires at like tire rack they have the offset as low as +35mm on 10 different wheels(recommended wheels based off my (Year/Make/Model).
Honda Fit 2007 - Wheel & Tire Sizes, PCD, Offset and Rims specs - Wheel-Size.com
I do believe +45 is the sweet spot though, I have read in other forums that .35 will work on certain wheels, and not others. Its too damn confusing. Then I can't just call a guy on craigslist and say DO YOU KNOW IF THEY WILL FIT? My answer could be total bullshit, or actually honest. 50/50 odds. LOL
I'm gonna call Les Shwab and Honda dealership tomorrow. Before I buy anything off craigslist. Just too many scenarios to be certain.
When putting in my Year Make Model Tire Rack doesnt even sell a wheel past +48mm offset. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/resul...7&autoModClar=
I believe the stock offset for the 2007 Honda Fit is +45. Anything from +45 to +53 is recommended.
However when I shop for tires at like tire rack they have the offset as low as +35mm on 10 different wheels(recommended wheels based off my (Year/Make/Model).
Honda Fit 2007 - Wheel & Tire Sizes, PCD, Offset and Rims specs - Wheel-Size.com
I do believe +45 is the sweet spot though, I have read in other forums that .35 will work on certain wheels, and not others. Its too damn confusing. Then I can't just call a guy on craigslist and say DO YOU KNOW IF THEY WILL FIT? My answer could be total bullshit, or actually honest. 50/50 odds. LOL
I'm gonna call Les Shwab and Honda dealership tomorrow. Before I buy anything off craigslist. Just too many scenarios to be certain.
When putting in my Year Make Model Tire Rack doesnt even sell a wheel past +48mm offset. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/resul...7&autoModClar=
Last edited by tommyarmour; 01-21-2016 at 11:30 PM.
#16
Stock wheel specs are...
14 x 6 (or 5.5) with +45 offset I believe
15 x 6 with +55 offset (confirmed)
16 x 6.5 with +55 (confirmed, HFP accessory wheel)
If you want to widen your options for wheels on tire rack then search for wheels on for example a 1991 Mazda Miata. Same bolt pattern but can possibly have better wheel selections that could fit your needs.
Just again be mindful of the width and offset.
14 x 6 (or 5.5) with +45 offset I believe
15 x 6 with +55 offset (confirmed)
16 x 6.5 with +55 (confirmed, HFP accessory wheel)
If you want to widen your options for wheels on tire rack then search for wheels on for example a 1991 Mazda Miata. Same bolt pattern but can possibly have better wheel selections that could fit your needs.
Just again be mindful of the width and offset.
#18
I'll admit to being in the middle of sorting all this suspension stuff out with an eye to track cars but I THINK I'm right.
Here is a short youtube that touches on the point. The kid is young but I've seen this elsewhere.
Wheel Spacers & Adapters - Good Or Bad? - YouTube
Here is a short youtube that touches on the point. The kid is young but I've seen this elsewhere.
Wheel Spacers & Adapters - Good Or Bad? - YouTube
From better sources too.
MotoIQ, Speed.Academy, etc.
Not random youtube videos.
#19
Stock wheel specs are...
14 x 6 (or 5.5) with +45 offset I believe
15 x 6 with +55 offset (confirmed)
16 x 6.5 with +55 (confirmed, HFP accessory wheel)
If you want to widen your options for wheels on tire rack then search for wheels on for example a 1991 Mazda Miata. Same bolt pattern but can possibly have better wheel selections that could fit your needs.
Just again be mindful of the width and offset.
14 x 6 (or 5.5) with +45 offset I believe
15 x 6 with +55 offset (confirmed)
16 x 6.5 with +55 (confirmed, HFP accessory wheel)
If you want to widen your options for wheels on tire rack then search for wheels on for example a 1991 Mazda Miata. Same bolt pattern but can possibly have better wheel selections that could fit your needs.
Just again be mindful of the width and offset.
All the forums I read I find the stock offset to be +55(which I believe now). If you go to tire rack all they go up to is +48mm offset(3 wheels only). There are almost no aftermarket wheels sold with a +55mm offset. I'm thinking about just getting a nice set of BF goodrich tires and sticking with the rims I have. What a pain in the arse.
I really like the Enkei RPF1's Racing wheels. With colored lug nuts.
15x7 RPF1 41mm offest, 16x7 43mm offset. Nothing about that.
Last edited by tommyarmour; 01-23-2016 at 03:19 PM.
#20
You might get a better deal on those two wheels from Good-Win-Racing. They have some specials currently going on that are either discounts on the wheels or free shipping.
Here's the listing for the '90 to '05 Miata, which also has 4x100 PCD (lug pattern). You can toggle from wheel spec to wheel spec to help get rid of options that will not work for you.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...es/Wheels.html
Here's a link to one of the multiple RPF1 listings, this one is a silver 15x7 +41 with free shipping at $184.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...t/21-1049.html
Here's the listing for the '90 to '05 Miata, which also has 4x100 PCD (lug pattern). You can toggle from wheel spec to wheel spec to help get rid of options that will not work for you.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...es/Wheels.html
Here's a link to one of the multiple RPF1 listings, this one is a silver 15x7 +41 with free shipping at $184.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda...t/21-1049.html