Oversized Oil Filter Options
#21
10-30-2010, 09:30 AM
I switched over to Mobil 1 0w30 at 14,686 and have put on 4k since then and I plan on going with the Royal Purple synthetic oil filter with my Mobil 1 oil and this is because I read on the Royal Purple box that the filter media is 100% synthetic whereas the Mobil 1 filter is a synthetic blend, that's the one I've been using for years. I plan on leaving the oil in all the way until the oil minder says 0%, so this is why I want the very best oil filter on there, hell, I may go past the 0% because its true, the Fit engine is VERY easy on oil. I remember when I had my first oil change at 8,400 and the oil minder was 15% and honestly, the oil still looked pretty good.
What do you guys think about the full synthetic oil filter compared to Mobil 1 and the blended one. The cost of the RP filter is about a dollar or two more, that's it.
BTW, if a larger filter works on the Fit, I'm going for it. I had an 87' Grand National and there was a larger filter for that car that worked and switched over to it right away without a problem
What do you guys think about the full synthetic oil filter compared to Mobil 1 and the blended one. The cost of the RP filter is about a dollar or two more, that's it.
BTW, if a larger filter works on the Fit, I'm going for it. I had an 87' Grand National and there was a larger filter for that car that worked and switched over to it right away without a problem
I'm running M1 on the Honda filter because they do the oil change. My thought was I'll pay them $38 for a complete oil change (Mobil1) every 9k-10K miles at the dealer without complaint. Plus then it's on record if anything ever goes wrong. For me, saving $7-$10 isn't worth it anymore to be a DIY. (if it was $15-$20, it might be worth it to me but there's no way a filter and 4qts of Mobil1 is going to cost $18) Again, Peace of Mind.
~SB
#22
10-30-2010, 09:57 AM
New Fit owner here, did some searching and read one or two posts referencing "the s2000 oil filter" (not sure if it is the 1st or 2nd gen S2000 filter, or they are one in the same) as a larger replacement for the stock Fit oil filter.
Is this true?
Can anyone confirm what part number that is?
Or more importantly the dimensions of this filter? (I'll most likely try to match the dimensions/specs of the S2000 filter with an aftermarket filter)
This website lists specs/dimensions of a few OEM and aftermarket filters for the Fit (I guess the 1st/2nd gen take the same filter), but not the oversized filters that will fit:
Honda Fit Oil Filter | Free Shipping | 2007 - 2009, 2007 - 2010, Fram, Hastings
Some of the filters list the direct replacement specs:
"3.47 in. H, 20 x 1.5 mm thread ID, 2.69 in. OD, full-flow lube spin-on, canister style, 13 relief valve setting"
"M20 x 1.5 thread, 2-21/32 in. OD, 3-1/2 in. L; Includes 1 gasket, anti-drainback valve, and 14 PSID by-pass valve"
"Ht=85mm Dia=69mm"
"3.75 in. H, 0.5 lb weight, 2.78 in. OD, M20 x 1.5 thread ID, 13-17 PSI relief valve"
I need the specs of the S2000 filter or any oversized filter that will work in the given space under the car. Thanks!
Is this true?
Can anyone confirm what part number that is?
Or more importantly the dimensions of this filter? (I'll most likely try to match the dimensions/specs of the S2000 filter with an aftermarket filter)
This website lists specs/dimensions of a few OEM and aftermarket filters for the Fit (I guess the 1st/2nd gen take the same filter), but not the oversized filters that will fit:
Honda Fit Oil Filter | Free Shipping | 2007 - 2009, 2007 - 2010, Fram, Hastings
Some of the filters list the direct replacement specs:
"3.47 in. H, 20 x 1.5 mm thread ID, 2.69 in. OD, full-flow lube spin-on, canister style, 13 relief valve setting"
"M20 x 1.5 thread, 2-21/32 in. OD, 3-1/2 in. L; Includes 1 gasket, anti-drainback valve, and 14 PSID by-pass valve"
"Ht=85mm Dia=69mm"
"3.75 in. H, 0.5 lb weight, 2.78 in. OD, M20 x 1.5 thread ID, 13-17 PSI relief valve"
I need the specs of the S2000 filter or any oversized filter that will work in the given space under the car. Thanks!
- Be forewarned that oversized filters mean slower oil pressure buildup which translates to more engine wear when the engine is started. Thats why manufacturers are specifying smaller filers as possible and strongly demanding changing oil filters with every oil change.
- If you run 100 miles between startups you might be useful with larger filter but otherwise not.
#27
10-30-2010, 08:58 PM
EDIT: ahhh did a bit more research, it turns out that these undersized oil filters have the end caps and anti drain-back valve or some crap like that all integrated so its smaller
Last edited by Vash; 10-30-2010 at 10:20 PM.
#28
10-31-2010, 08:40 AM
yeah whats up with those? i did some research and i think Wix and Bosch are undersized as well.. although i don't know for sure.. can someone give a confirmation and reasoning behind this?
EDIT: ahhh did a bit more research, it turns out that these undersized oil filters have the end caps and anti drain-back valve or some crap like that all integrated so its smaller
EDIT: ahhh did a bit more research, it turns out that these undersized oil filters have the end caps and anti drain-back valve or some crap like that all integrated so its smaller
- Be forewarned that oversized filters mean slower oil pressure buildup which translates to more engine wear when the engine is started. Thats why manufacturers are specifying smaller filers as possible and strongly demanding changing oil filters with every oil change.
- If you run 100 miles between startups you might be useful with larger filter but otherwise not.
#29
10-31-2010, 09:13 AM
Automotive engineers are pretty well decided that fast oil pressure buildup is cruciual to long engine life.
- Be forewarned that oversized filters mean slower oil pressure buildup which translates to more engine wear when the engine is started. Thats why manufacturers are specifying smaller filers as possible and strongly demanding changing oil filters with every oil change.
- If you run 100 miles between startups you might be useful with larger filter but otherwise not.
ahh thanks for the extra info man... i do like 100 miles betweens start ups generally... maybe i should be switching to a larger filter
#30
10-31-2010, 10:43 AM
honda motor company is a lot smarter than some douchebags on an internet forum. if a larger filter were better than a smaller filter on our car, honda would have recommended the use of such a filter
#31
10-31-2010, 10:54 AM
No need to get nasty Matthew.
You're entitled to your opinion, but holy crap, who peed in your Wheaties this morning? haha.
Well my oversized Bosch will go on shortly...they everyone can laugh as my Fit implodes.
You're entitled to your opinion, but holy crap, who peed in your Wheaties this morning? haha.
Well my oversized Bosch will go on shortly...they everyone can laugh as my Fit implodes.
#32
10-31-2010, 10:56 AM
#35
11-15-2010, 10:28 PM
many years back I went the oversize route for my accord, I think the part # was 24458 pure one, they dont make it anymore, .3 qt of extra oil would be in the sump, but most oil change guys went by stock numbers and always underfilled the sump. once or twice I would notice a noisy overhead, so I gave it up, I still have a few of them if anyone wants to try em.
also, read the oil filter analysis, pureones were deemed more restrictive than their regular ones.
stick to stock or comparable quality product, else get a pet, GF, BF, hobby....
also, read the oil filter analysis, pureones were deemed more restrictive than their regular ones.
stick to stock or comparable quality product, else get a pet, GF, BF, hobby....
#36
12-08-2010, 07:45 PM
Welp...
....The S2000 oil filter has been on there a couple hundred miles with it's greater surface area and I haven't blown up anything yet. 
Here are the part #s from Purolator:
PL14459 L14459
Here are the part #s from Purolator:
PL14459 L14459
#37
12-08-2010, 08:31 PM
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#39
12-08-2010, 08:36 PM
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