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EMC2 03-16-2013 04:25 PM

Water leak in trunk
 
To my dismay, I noticed a pool of frozen ice in the trunk underneath the liner where the spare tire is. I don't know how water could have leaked in there. The trunk liner seems dry. Has anyone else had this problem with the Fit?

Cat 03-16-2013 04:34 PM

I've not had an issue with my Fit but I had a chevy wagon that did the same thing. It was a small leak in the sill around the hatch. They replaced the rubber piece and it never leaked again.

n1nj4 m0d3 03-16-2013 05:02 PM

Check tail light gaskets. A common problem with Integras

loudbang 03-17-2013 04:32 AM

On the Fits some had this problem and it turns out to be water coming in around the top rubber strips on the roof or a seam leaking right in the same area. Try searching on here there is a thread about this problem and how to fit it.

Marco99 04-01-2013 09:18 PM

Just discovered the same problem on my 2008, I have traced it to where it's entering the trunk (dripping in from under the hatch door sill and landing just to the left of the jack ) but not sure where its coming from until I remove the door seal, trim,etc.

I do have a minuscule crack around the top rubber strips on the roof, but I don't think this is where it's entering the car.

FitChick 04-09-2013 07:02 PM

Just brought my '07 Sport back from the dealer after having a water test done. It's the welds at both tailgate hinges that have split/given way. Water then leaks down under the liner into the spare tire well. Will cost about $950.00 to repair. Don't have that kind of cash, so am emailing Honda to see what they'll do about it. Poor workmanship :( And it's been a known problem for quite some time, as well as leaks through the passenger doors.

13fit 04-09-2013 08:00 PM

check the curves and edges of the hatch seals

Look for corrosion or a big chunk of dirt causing the rubber to lift up slightly


can use black silicon and run a small bead UNDER the seal in the corners if needed

eddyksurfer 04-09-2013 10:10 PM

Mine was full of water too...so I pulled out the carpet and taped newspaper all throughout the rear bay and drove it when it rained for about 10 minutes and looked at the newspaper. You can pinpoint the area that is leaking because it will be wet in that one section of the newspaper or if you check it later you only have to look where the paper ink became runny. Its simple chap and works. Then fill it in with bondo or silicone sealant. Hope this helps

99dx 04-10-2013 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by eddyksurfer (Post 1174260)
Mine was full of water too...so I pulled out the carpet and taped newspaper all throughout the rear bay and drove it when it rained for about 10 minutes and looked at the newspaper. You can pinpoint the area that is leaking because it will be wet in that one section of the newspaper or if you check it later you only have to look where the paper ink became runny. Its simple chap and works. Then fill it in with bondo or silicone sealant. Hope this helps

Where was yours leaking??

TW Calvin 04-10-2013 10:54 AM

My earlier fit had this problem. The dealer said there was a TSB to fix the rear door seal.

eddyksurfer 04-10-2013 10:04 PM

In the spare tire bay where the weld seams meet. The caulking was old and dry so I sealed it. No more leaks!

Jazz_Pinkz 04-20-2013 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by EMC2 (Post 1168931)
To my dismay, I noticed a pool of frozen ice in the trunk underneath the liner where the spare tire is. I don't know how water could have leaked in there. The trunk liner seems dry. Has anyone else had this problem with the Fit?

i have the same problem, u can check your sealent contdition at the back side of the roof, near the rear door, you can check the sealent under the rubber weather strip, i've repaired the cracked sealent which made a stream of water flowing to the rear spare tire wel, and you can chek the welding point at the rear side of the spare tire wel, water from the roof which flow to the side of the rear door opening may cause the stream of water from down there, i've test my car using DIY moonsoon test.. just sprinkle water to the top rear of your car, where you are in the spare tire wel ^^

hope it helps..

donnaM 04-20-2013 02:36 PM

My Fit is going to a mechanic this afternoon as I have the same problem. The carpet is
soaked behind the front passenger and there is a lot of water around the spare tire. I just
noticed this problem. Didn't have it last summer but noticed it two weeks ago. Sucked up
the water with a ShopVac and kept the car doors open for four sunny days. It's dry now
but I have to find the leak. Really disappointed in Honda as this has been a problem for
many Fits.

r_torrijos2007 04-21-2013 01:26 PM

leak comes from the tailgate very common...

BurntZ 06-07-2013 06:40 AM

OK, I have tried to fix my small leak into the spare tire wheel well from presumably the hatch seal. I have put silicone around the hatch hinges, and put some underneath the black rubber seal and at the top of each headlight. No luck. After last night's heavy rain, the cloth I put at the base of the hatch was wet. I see where the water is running to. As you face the back of the car and open the hatch, the water runs from behind where the two interior plastic panels come together on the right side. There are two black plastic snaps to keep the panels together. I undo the snaps and can feel some foam rubber underneath to keep the plastic sill from rubbing against the metal frame. That foam rubber absorbs most of the water running down. I now put a towel under those plastic snaps to catch any water before it runs into the spare tire wheel well. Should I just keep putting silicone around the edge of the gasket or would a new gasket solve the problem? This is not a big deal, but it is disappointing and there has to be a solution. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

eddyksurfer 06-07-2013 10:18 PM

Leaking Water
 
One thing you could do is put a die in the water then spray your car down and trace the color leaks where they enter.....yet a more effective way that I found where the leaks were coming from was to remove the spare tire and rear carpet and sprinkle baby powder everywhere. Drive in the rain and you will easily see where the water is entering. Hope this helps

BurntZ 06-08-2013 08:33 AM

thanks, but I see the point where it is coming down into the spare tire well. It is entering by the two plastic snaps I described. What I don't know is what is going on behind the plastic trim. It appears that I would have to rip off the rubber gasket and take off 3 large sections of the plastic just to see behind. Once the gasket is off, there would be no experiment to perform. So I'm left with jamming more silicone underneath the gasket until I see results.
I also thought about taking the car to Honda and seeing what this TSB is all about. Perhaps the TSB details what precisely is wrong with the hatch leak? Has anyone on these boards successfully had their hatch leak fixed under the TSB? Thanks.

JaySmith 06-11-2013 07:53 PM

Mine just started doing this yesterday, however it appears to be leaking through the headliner around where the baby seat would attach too. My only thinking is that it could be the antenna right above, but I'll make sure to check the rear door seal now. God Honda has become a terrible product to own.

13fit 06-11-2013 08:12 PM

terrible product?

wow.....


If something like that upsets you about a car, you would be better off walking everywhere. Every car has its quarks

loudbang 06-12-2013 01:49 AM

"Quirks" ....

BurntZ 06-12-2013 06:33 AM

If something like that upsets you about a car, you would be better off walking everywhere. Every car has its quarks

I've actually consumed multiple Romulan Ales at Quarks. I only wish my car came with a Dabo girl. :rotfl:

I had not considered the roof antennae only because I have no staining in the roof liner. My water, as minor as it is, seems like it is coming from water hitting the rear bumper and jumping over the gasket. I have put silicon everywhere, yet the same small amount seems to get in after a heavy rainstorm. Again, it is minor and the work around is simply to put a towel under the black snaps at the base of the hatch trim before the water dribbles into the spare tire well.

loudbang 06-13-2013 01:03 AM

did you read the thread about this water coming from the roof? There is a problem with sealing the roof strips and a seam in that area.

BurntZ 06-13-2013 11:27 AM

OK, so I have read a few posts regarding leaks coming through the roof rail strip. I don't see how water would get from there down to the base of my spare tire wheel well without staining the inside head liner. But since I have caulked everything else, I'm willing to take a look underneath the roof rail strip. I saw a post that says I am to compress the ends inward to get the strip off. My question now is, what holds the strip on in the first place, and if I take it off, how do I get it back on?

BurntZ 06-13-2013 01:34 PM

thanks very much loudbang. I got up the courage to push in on the end of one of the rubber roof strips. The thing exploded out like a snake in a can. After cleaning off the two strips and taking out 6 years of pollen from the channels, I saw a hairline crack on the passenger side, right behind the tiny metal post that holds one end of the roof strip down. The crack travels down into the hatch for about 2 inches and stops just to the right of the hatch hinge. I just put some silicone over that area and sealed it up. I also took the towel out of my spare tire well to see if this afternoon's rains fail to find its way down. Crossing my fingers. I'll keep you all informed. This hairline crack could explain the small amount of water that seeps down to the plastic clips at the base of the inside hatch on the passenger's side.
Also, it was interesting that the rubber strips came out very easily due to all the dirt that was in there. After I cleaned out the channel and rubber strip with Lysol, the rubber strip practically molded itself into the channel with the hot sun baking on it. The seal is very tight as the clean rubber molds back in to the hot metal channel.

loudbang 06-13-2013 11:59 PM

Good to hear you may have solved this mystery the DIY way. :p

Spacecoast 06-14-2013 12:34 PM


My Fit is going to a mechanic this afternoon as I have the same problem. The carpet is
soaked behind the front passenger and there is a lot of water around the spare tire.
If water is found behind the front seats, then that water is coming in through the rear passenger doors...I have a thread that solves that issue.

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...ed-solved.html

Mikelmartin168 06-14-2013 01:29 PM

same problem with mine. I just recently check the taillight rubber gasket and It seems fine. Mine only happened when Iam parked.

Spacecoast 06-14-2013 08:29 PM

Water leaking into the rear area seems very common. If this ever happens to mine I would do the following: remove spare tire, remove plastic interior off the hatch, have someone use a hose and test for leaks while you are inside the vehicle. Have the person with the hose start low and work their way up with the hose. This is how I found the problem with the rear passenger doors leaking...as I mentioned I solved that problem.

Also, I would drill a small drain hole where the spare tire sits, if this would become a problem. Much better have a small drain hole than allowing water to sit and be trapped. If you do this, work from under the vehicle so that you don't drill into anything like the fuel tank.

BurntZ 06-18-2013 06:02 PM

well all, two rain storms down and no water coming from the bottom black snap at the back of the hatch before it slopes down into the wheel well. Putting some silicone on the hairline crack I found starting under the rear rubber roof strip and going two inches down near the hatch hinge seems to have solved the water issue. If anyone has completely sealed the rubber hatch gasket and the hinges, I recommend taking a look under the two rubber roof rail seals to see if you also have a hairline crack. thanks again to all of you who led me to the discovery.

DaGrinch 07-06-2013 11:19 PM

Well, this thread helped me solve the leak on the passenger side, I'm still leaking on the driver's side though, even though I chased that seam as well. What I used was a spray-on rubber sealant, that I actually sprayed into a plastic cup and brushed on, a layer of butyl-baked aluminum tape, and then a little more goop to cover the edges of that.

I've got some UV-reactive coolant dye for finding leaks on the way, I'm going to put some in a bucket of water and just pour it on the back of the car and trace the leak back it it's source. Thanks for the info, and I'll let you know what I find.

radiolandog 07-13-2013 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by BurntZ (Post 1187921)
well all, two rain storms down and no water coming from the bottom black snap at the back of the hatch before it slopes down into the wheel well. Putting some silicone on the hairline crack I found starting under the rear rubber roof strip and going two inches down near the hatch hinge seems to have solved the water issue. If anyone has completely sealed the rubber hatch gasket and the hinges, I recommend taking a look under the two rubber roof rail seals to see if you also have a hairline crack. thanks again to all of you who led me to the discovery.

Thank you, BurntZ! I would have never found this without your help.

Path of leak:

http://i39.tinypic.com/157kg0g.jpg

Rubber roof strip:

http://i44.tinypic.com/dyrk75.jpg





http://i43.tinypic.com/au6v04.jpg


Crack:
http://i43.tinypic.com/zls88.jpg


http://i43.tinypic.com/jaf8qr.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/2hh27w0.jpg

BurntZ 07-13-2013 12:10 PM

you can blame loudbang. He was the one who kicked me in the @ss to give me the confidence to get out there and try to fix it myself. Your pictures are 100% spot on and will help a lot of first generation Fit owners to fix their trunk leak. I find it so odd that there would be some kind of genetic deformity like that, affecting so many owners. Like Linus though, I keep my "blanket" tucked in that bottom corner just in case. Nonetheless, I checked it again after a night of 1-2 inch rainfall and my water problems are solved after caulking that hairline crack. Amazing.

loudbang 07-14-2013 03:20 AM

Glad to see you got it solved the DIY way. Great feeling doing it yourself isn't it.

DaGrinch 07-30-2013 11:22 PM

I have been unsuccessful, except to find that this is a -very- slow leak on the driver's side in the back. I waited 20 minutes after drowning the car in neon-yellow water, with no results, came back an hour later to a small puddle inside the car. Has anyone had the mount for the gas strut leak around the bolts? That's the only other place I could think water would get in.

DaGrinch 08-04-2013 02:32 PM

Since it won't let me edit my previous post, here's what I found. This is probably not an issue with original tail lights, but maybe the gasket is smaller for aftermarket, and doesn't cover this. There are alignment pins on the tail lights' body that nest into these little white plastic cups on the car. These cups had worn loose and water was coming down around the tail lights and dripping into the car through there. I simply popped them out and applied a silicone goop around the hole and the backside of the cup and popped them back into place. Gonna attach a picture of what they look like, in case anyone else might find this info useful.

http://ncwcom.com/~james/leakyplug.jpg

loudbang 08-05-2013 03:43 AM

Good find.

Sylak 08-23-2013 01:15 PM

Oh thank... i discover this problem last winter, at first i thought is was snow on trunk floor melting and getting dowm to the spare, since i carry my snowboard full of snow often. it was kind of logical. but i have water all the time, somebody ( a guy who sold me 16'' HFP wheel that had a Fit) told me about that leak. your picture seem pretty spot one, i have a Spraycan of 'leak seal' you know that black rubber spray. i sealed other things with it, could it work for that? instead of waiting for rain to test it, use water hose. that what i will do

loudbang 08-23-2013 11:33 PM

Clean the area and mask off anything you don't want sprayed with it and it should work fine. Let it dry to spec before trying water on it.

Marco99 11-22-2013 09:54 PM

I found my leak ...it was the very small cracks in the sealant under the rubber strips on the roof at the hatch. Removed some of it with a sharp blade and resealed it with outdoor sealant. I couldn't believe how such small cracks could let in that much water.

See post 31...... https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/1192520-post31.html

fitbefree 11-23-2013 12:43 AM

I encountered the same issue. Was a bit of a headache to find the direct cause to the problem. I went to the car wash and sat in the hatch area while someone sprayed my car, I had leaks coming from both the left and right sides. I removed the plastic cover so I could investigate further. I siliconed around the gaskets and thought i had rectified the problem...Until the next rainfall. So again I sat in the hatch while we used 2L bottles full of water to empty all around the hatch opening and roof troughs. Upon taking a closer look I noticed some really bad stress cracks. I bought some freeze proof silicone and removed the troughs and siliconed the crap out of it. PROBLEM SOLVED... follow the link someone else posted below and hope that helps.


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