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Old May 26, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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100k service coming up

08 fit, build date August of 07. My 100k service is coming up. What should I have done? I'm going to do the plugs which I haven't done, I have an optima yellow top to replace the oem battery, and I have been reading about coilpacks. I'm considering this part from amazon:
Amazon.com: Delphi GN10249 Ignition Coil: Automotive Amazon.com: Delphi GN10249 Ignition Coil: Automotive

are there certain brands of coilpacks people use? Anything I'm missing?

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Old May 26, 2013 | 06:12 PM
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Change out all fluid levels.
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Change out all fluid levels.
Also:

--adjust the valves
--look over the car for anything that might be loose
--inspect brake pads and shoes
--check the CV boots for tears and hit them with a generous soak of heavy duty silicone

That off the top of my head, my first cup of morning coffee.

We must have a stickie around here somewhere with a simple 100k list . . . ?
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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When I worked at a garage in my Teens, we used to work on everything from brand-new factory services (For local Main Dealerships) to 200k Cars, Petrol and Diesel.

We did basic items for an annual service;
  1. Plugs
  2. Airfilter
  3. Oil Filter
  4. Fuel Filter
  5. Oil

For a 100k Service;
  1. Oil
  2. Oil Filter
  3. Air Filter
  4. Fuel Filter
  5. Plugs
  6. Plug Leads (Dependent on current state)
  7. Brake Pads (Unless recently changed)
  8. Washer Fluid
  9. Anti Freeze
  10. Brake/Clutch Fluid
  11. Tyre Pressures Adjusted
  12. Wiper Blades Services

Hope this helps

EDIT:: Like above, Check all main sensors for signs of wear, CV Boots etc
 

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Old May 27, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 236GFX
When I worked at a garage in my Teens, we used to work on everything from brand-new factory services (For local Main Dealerships) to 200k Cars, Petrol and Diesel.

We did basic items for an annual service;
  1. Plugs
  2. Airfilter
  3. Oil Filter
  4. Fuel Filter
  5. Oil

For a 100k Service;
  1. Oil
  2. Oil Filter
  3. Air Filter
  4. Fuel Filter
  5. Plugs
  6. Plug Leads (Dependent on current state)
  7. Brake Pads (Unless recently changed)
  8. Washer Fluid
  9. Anti Freeze
  10. Brake/Clutch Fluid
  11. Tyre Pressures Adjusted
  12. Wiper Blades Services

Hope this helps

EDIT:: Like above, Check all main sensors for signs of wear, CV Boots etc


Good list.

But I think the fuel filter is inside the tank on our car.
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Ahh OK, Sometimes with various cars you can get to the pump from inside the car (Civic, Scoobs, Silvia's, R32 and R33 GTR's etc) and the filter is on the end of the pump.
I'll see if I can dig up the part diagrams for the Jazz!



Part Number 14; "Fuel Filter, Pump Complete."
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 04:26 PM
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People are able to get 100K miles from this generation without having to adjust their valves?
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by geepondy
People are able to get 100K miles from this generation without having to adjust their valves?
Well I've never needed to adjust them in other cars, but I'm not 100% sure about the Jazz/Fit

EDIT:: Do you mean lash adjustment?
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 05:47 PM
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Ahh OK, Sometimes with various cars you can get to the pump from inside the car (Civic, Scoobs, Silvia's, R32 and R33 GTR's etc) and the filter is on the end of the pump.
I'll see if I can dig up the part diagrams for the Jazz!



Part Number 14; "Fuel Filter, Pump Complete."

That, to my eye, is a rather complicated schematic, but it looks like the pump is inside the tank. Correct?
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by geepondy
People are able to get 100K miles from this generation without having to adjust their valves?


If "this" means '07-'08, then the answer is "No."
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Also just to clarify for myself and perhaps the original OP, the '08 Fit has a timing chain and not a belt so it doesn't require changing?
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Marrk
That, to my eye, is a rather complicated schematic, but it looks like the pump is inside the tank. Correct?
Yes thats correct,
but on removal of the pump the filter should come out with it?
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Marrk
If "this" means '07-'08, then the answer is "No."
I did mine at a little over 100k miles. It had a slightly rough idle for the first 30 seconds or so in the mornings, but nothing serious and no stalling.
 
Old May 27, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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I've got 95,000 miles on my 2007 Sport and the thing idles like it is a hybrid. I have no sense that the car is even running when I am stopped at a red light. But I'm sure reality will catch up at some point, so I post the following questions:

1. I have heard different terms bantered about. Do I ask my mechanic to do a lash adjustment, valve adjustment, or valve clearance adjustment.........or are they all the same?
2. will I know that it is time to get the ___________ (fill in the blank from question #1) done when my idle begins to get rough, or should I proactively do it because I'm nearing 100,000 miles?
3. My mechanic said a valve adjustment (if that is the right service) would be about $350. The dealer wants $100 more. Even though I am dealer-phoebic, I wanted to ask whether it is best to get the __________ service done at the dealer because they may need special tools for the GD3?
 

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Old May 27, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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1. They're all the same thing.

2. You're safest getting it done now if you want to be preventative. Many people need the adjustment done far before 100k miles. Like all maintenance for cars, it really depends on how the car is driven. Different people (like athletes vs. sedentary office employees) need different diets, exercises, and stretches. I believe different cars need different treatment as well - like one that is hammered from intersection to intersection vs. another that smoothly rolls along the highways on a daily basis. You might be fine not getting them adjusted until you don't pass a smog check X years down the road. Or you might find out next month that your engine is running poorly. Nobody can tell you for certain. Just know Honda's recommended schedule for valve adjustments is at 100k miles, and as already mentioned, there are people who have had to get theirs done earlier than that.

3. No special tools needed at all. Only regular socket wrenches, a flathead screwdriver, and some feeler gauges (which are just little flaps of metal in differing thicknesses) to measure the clearances.
 

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Old May 27, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BurntZ
I've got 95,000 miles on my 2007 Sport and the thing idles like it is a hybrid. I have no sense that the car is even running when I am stopped at a red light. But I'm sure reality will catch up at some point, so I post the following questions:

1. I have heard different terms bantered about. Do I ask my mechanic to do a lash adjustment, valve adjustment, or valve clearance adjustment.........or are they all the same?
2. will I know that it is time to get the ___________ (fill in the blank from question #1) done when my idle begins to get rough, or should I proactively do it because I'm nearing 100,000 miles?
3. My mechanic said a valve adjustment (if that is the right service) would be about $350. The dealer wants $100 more. Even though I am dealer-phoebic, I wanted to ask whether it is best to get the __________ service done at the dealer because they may need special tools for the GD3?
Dont see why they'd need special tools for the GD3? Did you look at the DIY page on the forum? The only real reason I can think of it being different is in a highly tuned engine specifically built for racing but in most cases the heads are stripped after every race. I'm assuring you mean Valve Lash adjustment, most people shorten it to "Valve adjustment" by the looks of things. Id hold out, you'll start to notice a difference, then get it done ASAP. Although in most cases if you've serviced the car regularly it should be ok for well over 100k
 
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Also just to clarify for myself and perhaps the original OP, the '08 Fit has a timing chain and not a belt so it doesn't require changing?

Yes, the cams are driven by a chain.

No, it does not require changing. But you can ask this question again when you hit 200K mi. Then, we'll see.
 
Old May 28, 2013 | 01:37 AM
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Spark plug leads?????? Spark plug leads have gone the way of the dinosaurs the Fit does NOT have spark plug leads. It has coilpacks.
 
Old May 28, 2013 | 01:41 AM
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The fuel filter on all Fits is in the gas tank. To service take out the console and there is the top of the tank with a "special nut" holding the sending unit, pump, and filter in place. Honda has a special nut remover (no not that kind perverts) but the nut can be removed if you are handy with tools without one.


This shows it and the procedure. To see the photos click on the small rectangle grey boxes IN INTERNET EXPLORER.

http://www.hondafitjazz.com/manual/A...301KBAT10.HTML
 

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Old May 28, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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^^Well, well. I like that very much.

So, is G ("suction filer") the "fuel filter"?
 



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