Upgrades for better performance
#1
Upgrades for better performance
Could anyone talk about or direct me to a site which can provide information on what parts would need to be upgraded on a 2007 fit to increase acceleration speed and handling. I do not have too much knowledge on car upgrades and would like to make an educated decision on whether I should put money into my fit or just continue with routine maintenance.
#2
Hi there!
Your already on the right site, you will just need to do some searching, and more importantly manage your expectations.
The Fit is an Econo Box. It's fun to chuck around thanks to a decently stiff chassis, and its quick 0-40mph due to short gearing.
If you want a "10 sec car" or to "smoke people" buy a faster car/crotch rocket.
If you want to enjoy 30+MPG and occasional fun on twisty roads, or do well in a AutoX style short technical course, we can help you! Few things:
1.Budget?
2.Intended use?
Your already on the right site, you will just need to do some searching, and more importantly manage your expectations.
The Fit is an Econo Box. It's fun to chuck around thanks to a decently stiff chassis, and its quick 0-40mph due to short gearing.
If you want a "10 sec car" or to "smoke people" buy a faster car/crotch rocket.
If you want to enjoy 30+MPG and occasional fun on twisty roads, or do well in a AutoX style short technical course, we can help you! Few things:
1.Budget?
2.Intended use?
#3
Hi...thanks for the response
I'm looking for the latter...30+MPG and occasional fun on twisty roads, or doing well in a AutoX style short technical course.
Budget is around 5K
Intended use would be just for getting around. Nothing too serious.
I have had the car for seven years and its become a bumpy ride and needs a bit more zip. I'm just looking for some improvement in the overall driving experience.
I'm looking for the latter...30+MPG and occasional fun on twisty roads, or doing well in a AutoX style short technical course.
Budget is around 5K
Intended use would be just for getting around. Nothing too serious.
I have had the car for seven years and its become a bumpy ride and needs a bit more zip. I'm just looking for some improvement in the overall driving experience.
#4
This!^
As with TP, you are already on the correct site!
I wish I had a budget like yours! But for 5k I can think of these things to make your little GD a bit more enjoyable:
1. Light wheels combined with good tires
2. Coilovers or a good shock/spring combo
3. I/H/E combined with Hondata
4. Chassis stiffening products (i.e. sway bars, strut bars)
You don't need a lot to make our cars fun, just the simple upgrades will suffice.
And browse through our classified section for good deals or even your local Craigslist might have some gems.
As with TP, you are already on the correct site!
I wish I had a budget like yours! But for 5k I can think of these things to make your little GD a bit more enjoyable:
1. Light wheels combined with good tires
2. Coilovers or a good shock/spring combo
3. I/H/E combined with Hondata
4. Chassis stiffening products (i.e. sway bars, strut bars)
You don't need a lot to make our cars fun, just the simple upgrades will suffice.
And browse through our classified section for good deals or even your local Craigslist might have some gems.
#5
Everything jmsplitfyre and TPColgett mentioned will add to the fun. The most noticeable mods for me were the Rear Swaybar, light wheels, and the Hondata Flashpro. Lowered suspension and sticky tires will help in the twisties. I/H/E make everything all that much sweeter!
#7
What do the OEM wheels weigh and what would a reasonably priced after-market wheel weigh? Obviously, I don't want to spend top dollar on racing spec wheels, but, like the OP, leverage cost against gain in a conservative ratio.
Thanks!
#10
base model 15" steelies are approx 17.2 pounds each. The 16" alloys on the sports weight about 2 pounds more
#13
Honestly, RPF 1's in 15x7 with some 205 50 UHP tires (tread wear <400 is ideal), Redshift Motorsport Koni Coil overs, A Hondata with a re flash, Denso IK-22 Spark plugs and 91 Octane (or higher) and an Intake and Exhaust of your choice will be under your budget and TRANSFORM the car!!!
I'd do it in mostly that order as well
#14
Glad to here it!
Honestly, RPF 1's in 15x7 with some 205 50 UHP tires (tread wear <400 is ideal), Redshift Motorsport Koni Coil overs, A Hondata with a re flash, Denso IK-22 Spark plugs and 91 Octane (or higher) and an Intake and Exhaust of your choice will be under your budget and TRANSFORM the car!!!
I'd do it in mostly that order as well
Honestly, RPF 1's in 15x7 with some 205 50 UHP tires (tread wear <400 is ideal), Redshift Motorsport Koni Coil overs, A Hondata with a re flash, Denso IK-22 Spark plugs and 91 Octane (or higher) and an Intake and Exhaust of your choice will be under your budget and TRANSFORM the car!!!
I'd do it in mostly that order as well
#15
Those Konis do not have adjustable body height/size
Hop on ebay and check out cxracing coilovers for our cars. They use 335 pound springs front and back for a very nice balanced handling package
Hop on ebay and check out cxracing coilovers for our cars. They use 335 pound springs front and back for a very nice balanced handling package
#17
I am running the Koni Yellow rear shocks on my 2008 Sport right now and am VERY happy with them. They could be "shorter" if you wanted to go "super low" and a little DIY is involved to install bump stops and dust shields, but they are a 100% improvement to the car!!! Also, Redshift coils will fit on the front end. Spring length just changes between GD and GE. I think the Koni inserts may be on back order though.
True for the rear shocks, but they compress identically as far as stock ones so there is no loss. Again, unless you want to go STUPID low, then there is no reason to not run a fixed body length shock...
And yea.... CXRacing is not a brand I ever recommend... There stuff is cheap for a reason. They have OK inter cooler cores, and have been attempting to increase there quality lately, but to be blunt, you pay for what you get when it comes to suspension.
The only "cheap" coils that look solid and have favorable views are the T1R basics that were/are doing the group buy... but there is odd stuff going on in that thread at the moment as well
And yea.... CXRacing is not a brand I ever recommend... There stuff is cheap for a reason. They have OK inter cooler cores, and have been attempting to increase there quality lately, but to be blunt, you pay for what you get when it comes to suspension.
The only "cheap" coils that look solid and have favorable views are the T1R basics that were/are doing the group buy... but there is odd stuff going on in that thread at the moment as well
#18
So I started to do research on some of the recommendations and had some questions.
1. With the rims should I aim for a particular weight? I was looking at the Konig - Forward rims which are bout 14 lbs. I have the stock rims on the sport now so I think I save about 5lbs a rim. Would 2 lbs actually make a substantial difference if I went with a lighter rim?
2. With the hondadata. Is this something that is absolutely necessary to install. What is the ultimate benefit of getting this? would I need a ton of know how to configure the car or would I need a professional to do this. Finally would I need to constantly tune the car. I am not entierly sure how the hondadata works.
1. With the rims should I aim for a particular weight? I was looking at the Konig - Forward rims which are bout 14 lbs. I have the stock rims on the sport now so I think I save about 5lbs a rim. Would 2 lbs actually make a substantial difference if I went with a lighter rim?
2. With the hondadata. Is this something that is absolutely necessary to install. What is the ultimate benefit of getting this? would I need a ton of know how to configure the car or would I need a professional to do this. Finally would I need to constantly tune the car. I am not entierly sure how the hondadata works.
#19
And yea.... CXRacing is not a brand I ever recommend... There stuff is cheap for a reason. They have OK inter cooler cores, and have been attempting to increase there quality lately, but to be blunt, you pay for what you get when it comes to suspension.
The only "cheap" coils that look solid and have favorable views are the T1R basics that were/are doing the group buy... but there is odd stuff going on in that thread at the moment as well
Ive experienced firsthand quite a few CXRacing products.
No issues in the past. Couple returns/replacements here and there, but they did step up and take care of issues. I certainly would NOT mark them as a high quality one stop shop, but I do think you are being a bit biased towards other brands.
I would put their current offering much higher then other cheap brands (Megan comes to mind)
You are right though, the "old" CXRacing was eager to stock damn near anything to make money, but they never came off as shoddy or whatnot. And they answer their phones
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So I started to do research on some of the recommendations and had some questions.
1. With the rims should I aim for a particular weight? I was looking at the Konig - Forward rims which are bout 14 lbs. I have the stock rims on the sport now so I think I save about 5lbs a rim. Would 2 lbs actually make a substantial difference if I went with a lighter rim?
2. With the hondadata. Is this something that is absolutely necessary to install. What is the ultimate benefit of getting this? would I need a ton of know how to configure the car or would I need a professional to do this. Finally would I need to constantly tune the car. I am not entierly sure how the hondadata works.
1. With the rims should I aim for a particular weight? I was looking at the Konig - Forward rims which are bout 14 lbs. I have the stock rims on the sport now so I think I save about 5lbs a rim. Would 2 lbs actually make a substantial difference if I went with a lighter rim?
2. With the hondadata. Is this something that is absolutely necessary to install. What is the ultimate benefit of getting this? would I need a ton of know how to configure the car or would I need a professional to do this. Finally would I need to constantly tune the car. I am not entierly sure how the hondadata works.
check out good-win-racing.com and check out the 90-05 miata wheels. They are aftermarket, not factory wheels. Try and shoot for a pound per inch of rim or less. Rim weight helps everywhere, better gas mileage, better acceleration, better braking, better handling, more responsive bump handling, etc... The impact depends ont eh weight reduction. 2 pounds can be felt around corners, but may not be felt by some cars in a straight line (accelerating, braking). 4 pounds lost can be massive on some cars
Lots of benefits. the only negative is cost!!
Hondata is a car changer for sure. Much more response is available, better power and efficiency, and through that, better gas mileage.
You get a basemap when you get it. You can always return the tune to factory if you think you screwed up. Take your time learning, it is a great tool to use, but to make it effective it needs to work well. There are many guides out there to help you, research is key. Lots of tricks in tuning to get more potential out of the engine!!
Last edited by 13fit; 07-18-2013 at 01:13 PM.
#20
Hondata is a car changer for sure. Much more response is available, better power and efficiency, and through that, better gas mileage.
You get a basemap when you get it. You can always return the tune to factory if you think you screwed up. Take your time learning, it is a great tool to use, but to make it effective it needs to work well. There are many guides out there to help you, research is key. Lots of tricks in tuning to get more potential out of the engine!!
You get a basemap when you get it. You can always return the tune to factory if you think you screwed up. Take your time learning, it is a great tool to use, but to make it effective it needs to work well. There are many guides out there to help you, research is key. Lots of tricks in tuning to get more potential out of the engine!!
Back to the hondata. If I leave off getting this for a while will it have a tremendous impact on performance. Say I upgrade I/H/E, Rims, tires, suspension can I hold off on getting the hondata for half a year or is it pointless to do the other upgrades without the hondata?