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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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I was being sarcastic, the engine runs quietly, as I recall. Wouldn't loose valve lash exhibit some ticking/clatter?
Lol...I wouldn't base my valve lash being good just because i can't hear excessive "ticking"... Now I'm now saying
This is ur issue. But it would be something to be done along the lines of replacing ur coils. I'll bet u money that ur valve lash is not on point.
 
Old Dec 18, 2013 | 11:31 PM
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All good advice, I will forward to owner, and give updates
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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Thanks for the quick advice, in this thread. I went to a auto-zone and had them check for any codes and of course the machine wont read codes unless the heck engine light is on. This week I'm going to send the car to a Honda dealer and have a multi-point inspection with focus on the transmission and engine? Hopefully they will find something.

I do have a 30-day power train and differentials warranty for the private car dealer. So i need this dealer to really find it all hopefully. It just feels like a skip from 2-3 gear at the 60mph mark and smaller skip from 3 to 4th. I'm pretty sure its supossed to be a smooth hell my 2006 ford focus I had never had transmission problems with less mileage.

I enjoy this car so I hope i don't have to get something else.
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Send the dealer a registered letter, otherwise he'll claim he didn't know of the problem, as this may drag on past the warranty.

I also fax a letter, then re-fax with a copy of the confirmation pageand mailing info to show that I have proof it was sent to the correct telly etc.

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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 10:23 AM
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Confirmation that there could be a problem or what the Honda dealer tells my come Saturday assuming something us wrong? I'm going to contact the bank also since I borrowed some money through them and they certified the dealer as not being shady, just a FYI to them just in case.
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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A little off key... My FIL has a Acura RS-X, bot new in '02, 120k, goes in for front pads, dealer says $600. He goes to a recommended mechanic, shop says $300, but then decides he needs rotors and calipers. Mech says rotors can't be turned. FIL spends winters in Florida, so no rust. I just changed the alt belt in Florida last spring, and always poke around, rotors were fine, not gouged or rusty in the air vents.

Mech says caliper bolt siezed. I'm positive it could have been freed up w a little gentle persuasion, I do it all the time on far older and rustier vehicles.

Not done yet, the check engine lite is on, so oxy sensor changed, but mech says fuse block defective, and a couple hundred more donneros!!! WTF?!?! FIL showed me the old one, it looked brand new! And I do plenty of work on old junker clunkers, so I should know a burnt up part. So the bill is $1000, so much for saving $300. Moral of the story? Don't trust ANYBODY!!! Too bad we live 275 miles away, I would have done the repairs for the cost of the pads, but he didn't even tell us.

Oh, I'm not finished yet! FIL decides it's still a 12 year old car, longest he's ever kept one, so we go shopping for a new car, find the Honda Civic is the only one that will hold his gold club bag, make a deal w the local dealer, and they call back the next AM, (before we have a chance to call them to call off the deal cause his trade in isn't worth what he was hoping), and they say they made a mistake and it's $1000 more, but they'll throw in the 5 year bumper-to-bumper for 1/2 price ($750), so only a few hundred more than agreed to price, which was scribbled on a salesemans business card. the nite before they said they could only drop $250 off the warranty, We pushed it cause Hyundai has a better warranty (but golf bag doesn't fit). Saleswoman says Hyundai's are made w recycled parts and need the longer warranty. I reply that if Honda's are so good, whey not thro in the longer warranty? FIL is 90 btw!

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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 10:47 AM
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Damn hopefully I don't have to deal with anything like that and it's a simple fix. If anything is wrong with this car it's going right back to the dealer the minute I know, I've got 3 weeks and a lawyer on speed dial.
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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Damn hopefully I don't have to deal with anything like that and it's a simple fix. If anything is wrong with this car it's going right back to the dealer the minute I know, I've got 3 weeks and a lawyer on speed dial.
I'll tell u right now the honda dealer should diagnose the issue to be something along the lines of the coils. It's usually recommended to replace all 4 coils because the new coils are a better part. And second if the technician working on ur car knows what he's doing he should be able to tell by reading the map sensor voltage if ur valves need to be adjusted.
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Thanks for the reply, what's the charge on replacing the coils? (estimated). Realizing after driving back from my work, the brakes need to be changed and I need a oil change.. Lol what the hell man I just can't drive maintenance free for a year Jesus!!
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Thanks for the reply, what's the charge on replacing the coils? (estimated). Realizing after driving back from my work, the brakes need to be changed and I need a oil change.. Lol what the hell man I just can't drive maintenance free for a year Jesus!!
Well they are going to charge u 1hr diagnosis off the bat and dealerships usually start around 110 (give or take a few dollars) an hour. Than on top of that probably another 30mins to an hour labor for installing the coils. But if u can turn a wrench at all u can just install the coils ur self. I'm gonna warn u right now tho, for 4 coils they are pretty pricey. U can order the coils from majestic honda and save money on markup prices. Here's the link to majestic honda. Excel llano place to buy cheap oem parts!
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Old Dec 19, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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I should also add that a valve adjust is usually around 1.5hrs labor, if that's part of the problem.
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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I looked at Magestic web site, no coils listed or ignition. and no search box. I'm lost
 
Old Dec 19, 2013 | 10:55 PM
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Found them, Plug Top Coil $67 each. spark plugs, $14 each

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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 09:43 AM
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Found them, Plug Top Coil $67 each. spark plugs, $14 each

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Yup! So if u look at the list price that's how much u would be paying for the coil at a dealership, or possibly a little more depending on their mark up. Best case is to just order parts from MH than take the coils in to get installed, if u can't turn a wrench.
 
Old Dec 28, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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So a little Update and advice needed. I went to the Honda dealership and the tech pressed some button(what did he do to access this???? ) on the front mileage display and it showed A13. This means transmission and tire rotation. I had the Atf and tires changed somewhere else because 250plus at the dealer is crazy.

I'm still getting the shutter around 60mph and it's probably not the coils as the tech said because a code would show or check engine light. I'm getting no check engine light.

Im currently 997 miles into my 3000mile warranty from the dealer. This covers 100% engine transmission and 100% parts. Should I just drive this thing back or go to the dealer and have them tell me exctally what the problem is??? It would cost me 100bucks but I really don't think I should be playing for anything. I just bought this damn car with a so called clean carfax.
 
Old Dec 28, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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So a little Update and advice needed. I went to the Honda dealership and the tech pressed some button(what did he do to access this???? ) on the front mileage display and it showed A13. This means transmission and tire rotation. I had the Atf and tires changed somewhere else because 250plus at the dealer is crazy.

I'm still getting the shutter around 60mph and it's probably not the coils as the tech said because a code would show or check engine light. I'm getting no check engine light.

Im currently 997 miles into my 3000mile warranty from the dealer. This covers 100% engine transmission and 100% parts. Should I just drive this thing back or go to the dealer and have them tell me exctally what the problem is??? It would cost me 100bucks but I really don't think I should be playing for anything. I just bought this damn car with a so called clean carfax.
That button he pressed and showed "A13" is Hondas "maintenance minder". It basically helps u keep track of ur maintenance. If a dealership doesn't have any history on ur car they will just go off that. Usually when thst stuff gets replaced it should be erased but the people that changed it probably forgot to erase it. A service is a basic oil change, 1 is tire rotation 2 is air and a/c filters 3 is ATF and 4 is valave adjust. Keep in mind all this stuff may need to be done sooner depending on how vehicle is driven.
Now onto the shudder issue. Bad coils don't necessarily mean the Check engine light is gonna come on. Intact majority of bad coils I've fixed did not throw any DTCs. What the technician needs to do is hook up the diagnostic computer "HDS" and watch the misfire counter because it will clearly show misfired when the shiutter happeneds. A good technician will know how to do this.
Now about ur warranty. If it's factory warranty it should be covered under power train for the coils. But it might be good to just go back to were u bought it from first so u don't risk the chance of getting raped for 100$. Where u bought it from should take care if it with no expense if the warranty included power train stuff.
 
Old Dec 28, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Thanks for the reply, I should mention this is a private dealer that's given me a limited 3000mile warranty. Not sure if there even capable of diagnosing the issue, but they have a shop so I would assume.

I'm going to call them up and tell them what's wrong and see what they have to say. This is beginning to pass me off. My very first car was a civic 142k miles never had a problem I this car only has 92k, clearly not taken car of.
 
Old Dec 28, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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Did you watch my video? Even tho one can't feel the shudder except in the car, just curious
 
Old Dec 28, 2013 | 08:29 PM
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Did you watch my video? Even tho one can't feel the shudder except in the car, just curious
Yep saw your video, and almost the same thing happens to me. Talked to the Honda tech via phone and he said it's definitely not normal.
 
Old Dec 28, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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Glad I can help... My friends son hasn't dealt with his Moms car yet that I know, but he said it's getting worse, and they havn't the extra money for a deep scan.

A little OT, I have a 2003 BMW 325xi and I could use a scanner. Any recommendations? I have heard the FLAP scanners don't give the detail of the more exp scanners. I'm over 50, so it's beyond me.

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