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Old Jul 4, 2022 | 12:13 AM
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Hello everyone,

I have a 2010 Honda fit Base Model and Back in late December early January I was pulling into a parking lot and i was going between 10-15 mph and I hit a pot hole so deep that it actually smacked the bottom of the car on the driver side just underneath the driver seat and then again close to where the rear suspension connects to the frame. I would of dodged it but couldn't see it as i was pulling in at an incline. I immediately brought my car to my mechanic and he said everything looked absolutely fine, with the exception of some scrapes. I have had the vehicle inspected many times when it is in for routine maintenance not only by my mechanic but by a Honda dealership as well. The only place I have not had it looked at by has been a collision center but I haven't felt the need to since every certified person has told me its fine. I would also like to add that the car drives perfectly fine and I have not noticed any odd sounds when going over speed bumps or anything else that would cause the vehicle or suspension to flex. Or any other noises coming from the vehicle and all the doors and the rear hatch close and open with ease. Sooo now that I have rambled on my first question is how robust are the frames and rear suspension? Is it possible hitting a pothole at that speed could bend my frame, axle or crack or break a weld? My next question is what is everyone's alignment like. I have uploaded a picture of my most recent alignment paperwork and my rear Toe is off. I have been to two Honda dealerships and spoken with their service advisors and have been told that this is normal for a Honda fit and other Honda models as well. And that it wont affect the car because the back wheels are just being dragged behind the vehicle. I also would like to add that I have not noticed any unusual tire wear and I rotate my tires often. I have very severe OCD so I tend to worry and overthink a lot... especially about my car, so any reassurance is appreciated along with any opinions as well! I was also told not to worry as my total toe is pretty spot on!

Thank you for any input
Happy 4th of July!

P.S - This is my first Honda so im sure I will have a lot more questions


 
Old Jul 5, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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there aren't any alignment adjustments possible at the rear of the Honda Fit.

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This picture shows the front and rear suspension is a torsion suspension. At the front of the torsion bar are two pivot points that locate the suspension, then there is a spring and shock with supports the load of the vehicle and dampens any road obstacles. There is nothing there to adjust to correct your issue. The whole setup moves up or down at the tire side while pivoting off the front where it is attached to the vehicle itself. If the road surface is uneven, the torsion bar will flex to provide stability, as well as while cornering.

While this is a very simple, basic setup, it works quite well. The downside is, that there aren't any adjustments to be had. There are two things to think about here:
  • Since this is at the rear of the vehicle and the tires are just being pulled along (these trail the vehicle), you should have a minimal expectation of wear. The front tires will always wear faster because of ever changing geometries while turning.
  • The only way there could be a problem here is if there was actual damage done to the torsion suspension portion or to the wheel bearings themselves. I would bet if there were an issue with either part of this, the alignment guy would have said something when you got it done.
 
Old Jul 7, 2022 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HondaFrog
Hello everyone,

I have a 2010 Honda fit Base Model and Back in late December early January I was pulling into a parking lot and i was going between 10-15 mph and I hit a pot hole so deep that it actually smacked the bottom of the car on the driver side just underneath the driver seat and then again close to where the rear suspension connects to the frame. I would of dodged it but couldn't see it as i was pulling in at an incline. I immediately brought my car to my mechanic and he said everything looked absolutely fine, with the exception of some scrapes. I have had the vehicle inspected many times when it is in for routine maintenance not only by my mechanic but by a Honda dealership as well. The only place I have not had it looked at by has been a collision center but I haven't felt the need to since every certified person has told me its fine. I would also like to add that the car drives perfectly fine and I have not noticed any odd sounds when going over speed bumps or anything else that would cause the vehicle or suspension to flex. Or any other noises coming from the vehicle and all the doors and the rear hatch close and open with ease. Sooo now that I have rambled on my first question is how robust are the frames and rear suspension? Is it possible hitting a pothole at that speed could bend my frame, axle or crack or break a weld? My next question is what is everyone's alignment like. I have uploaded a picture of my most recent alignment paperwork and my rear Toe is off. I have been to two Honda dealerships and spoken with their service advisors and have been told that this is normal for a Honda fit and other Honda models as well. And that it wont affect the car because the back wheels are just being dragged behind the vehicle. I also would like to add that I have not noticed any unusual tire wear and I rotate my tires often. I have very severe OCD so I tend to worry and overthink a lot... especially about my car, so any reassurance is appreciated along with any opinions as well! I was also told not to worry as my total toe is pretty spot on!

Thank you for any input
Happy 4th of July!

P.S - This is my first Honda so im sure I will have a lot more questions

you can adjust the rear alignment using Shim kit. Just go to an alignment shop that knows their stuff well
https://www.spcalignment.com/
 
Old Jul 7, 2022 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JingJangJoe
you can adjust the rear alignment using Shim kit. Just go to an alignment shop that knows their stuff well
https://www.spcalignment.com/
I believe GE hubs are welded on
 
Old Jul 8, 2022 | 04:21 PM
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I think the spec is 2mm plus or minus 2mm toe-in on the rear (0 to 0.785 degrees). You are very slightly out of spec. Unless you are made of money, I suggest ignoring it if the tires are wearing evenly and the handling is fine.
 
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