Highway handling
#41
I'll say it again, change to 205/50-15's to fix this problem. Downside is you'll lose about 1 mpg, and depending on the tire, you may get more noise (I didn't). Upside is the "freeway wander" problem is gone, the car sticks better on cornering, and though I didn't do an A/B test, it's likely that the extra rubber helps improve the Fit's average braking performance. You also get a much wider choice of rubber. No rubbing at all using the stock Sport wheels with the +50 offset, and stock suspension.
#43
The stiffer sidewall of a 205/45 would be an improvement, at the cost of ride quality, something the Fit is short on to start with. The problem with 205/45's is speedo error, the diameter is 19 mm smaller than stock. When compared to the 205/50's, their diameter is only 1.5 mm larger than stock.
#45
You are talking about the 09 Fit Sport right..???? You do know that the stock wheel size is 16 inches and not 15 inches right...??.... food for thought
#46
Doh!! You beat me to it!!! And he states he has an 09 Sport so not sure how he didn't need to change wheel size.... hmmm
#47
I have a new 09 Fit base, with 5 speed, had it about 3 weeks and love driving this car. One thing I have found is that it feels a big squirly at highway speeds, seems to need a lot of attention to keep it going in a straight line. Anyone else finding this? Is it the stock tires? A quirk of the steering system? Interested is hearing from others about this.
I have the anti-roll bar and Base size tyres (Mine are Goodyear GT3 though), and I have no issues with motorway handling.
#49
What is a bit hard to sort out of this thread is the difference in high speed stability between Base and Sport models. The Sport differs in two important respects:
1. The lower profile 185/55 x 16 tires on the Sport, vs. the 175/65 x 15 tires on the Base. Note also that the 16 inch tires are H speed rated, and the 15 inchers are not.
2. The presence of a rear stabilizer bar on the Sport, not present on the Base.
Maybe it is Sport Snobbery, but I would think that these two upgrades would both act to improve high speed stability. I promise that when our on-order Orange Revolution Sport w/Nav arrives, I will be sure to check it out at 75 mph on I-95 and report back.
1. The lower profile 185/55 x 16 tires on the Sport, vs. the 175/65 x 15 tires on the Base. Note also that the 16 inch tires are H speed rated, and the 15 inchers are not.
2. The presence of a rear stabilizer bar on the Sport, not present on the Base.
Maybe it is Sport Snobbery, but I would think that these two upgrades would both act to improve high speed stability. I promise that when our on-order Orange Revolution Sport w/Nav arrives, I will be sure to check it out at 75 mph on I-95 and report back.
#52
Changing tire brands is the easy solution.
Last edited by mahout; 12-23-2008 at 09:20 AM.
#54
I see posts referring to 205/50R15 size. From an online tire size calculator, it shows that 205/55R15 is closer to the original overall height thus reducing speedometer inaccuracy. Not sure about clearances though.
I'm thinking about when I need to change my original 175/65R15 Dunlops that i'll change sizes. What do you guys think about 185/60R15 or even 195/60R15 sizes?
I'm thinking about when I need to change my original 175/65R15 Dunlops that i'll change sizes. What do you guys think about 185/60R15 or even 195/60R15 sizes?
#55
^^With the 96-00 Civics, Honda used 185/65/14. For the Si they used 195/55/15. Typically you can up the first number and you have to lower the 2nd number. Like 185/65/14-195/60/14-205/55/14. Or 185/55/16-195/50/16-205/45/16. Or 195/55/15-205/50/15-185/60/15. All of those sizes are pretty close to the same circumfrence and you can get away with using them. The Fits tire size is almost identicle to 96-00 Civics and 94-00 Integras.
#56
I found this thread, because the straight line stability on my car is horrible. I wish I had a longer test drive on the freeway before I bought the car. I have an 09 sport model with manual transmission. I think I will have the dealer check the alignment. The grooves in the road pull the car all over the place, and then the slightest correction can occasionally really over correct. I am just talking about at 65 to 70 mph. I have driven hundreds of cars in my life and never experienced anything like the dartyness of this car. If I take my hands of the steering wheel, it will not hold its lane for more than about 3 seconds. It doesn't pull one way or the other, but the road will eventually grab it and yank it off course.
#57
I found this thread, because the straight line stability on my car is horrible. I wish I had a longer test drive on the freeway before I bought the car. I have an 09 sport model with manual transmission. I think I will have the dealer check the alignment. The grooves in the road pull the car all over the place, and then the slightest correction can occasionally really over correct. I am just talking about at 65 to 70 mph. I have driven hundreds of cars in my life and never experienced anything like the dartyness of this car. If I take my hands of the steering wheel, it will not hold its lane for more than about 3 seconds. It doesn't pull one way or the other, but the road will eventually grab it and yank it off course.
#58
I have a 09 Sport Fit that I commute about 45 miles at around 70 mph round trip to and from work. It is mostly highway driving. I have not notice any straight line stability problem with the OEM tire 185/55 on 16" rims under typical driving condition. But when there is a cross wind or when I am pass by a larger vehicle, a pickup truck, mini-van, full size van, tractor trailer, etc I do feel being push around.
#59
A short time lurker & potential owner here. I also found the handling of the Sport AT model I test drove a bit different. When you turn, it plants itself nicely but it has an unnatural sensation as it leans (rolls) when turning or bobbing during lane changes. I was going around 40 mph but was curious how the same movement feels @ hwy speeds. Judging by what I read, if the Fit is that sensitive to alignment errors and/or tires, it would seem it is an inherent characteristic of a light, tall & narrow car like it is. Granted, all of my cars were lowered (Celica, Integra, VW, E46) but the Fit drove more like my current X3 sport: similar levels of initial grip & body control but bobbing & weaving of an SUV. The X3 has enough heft & body control to be stable @ hwy speeds, I've wondered how the Fit would do w/o the weight to stabilize itself. If the Fit is in need to constant alignment checks & finicky about tires, I'm afraid the Fit simply was designed primarily as a city car.
#60
I found this thread, because the straight line stability on my car is horrible. I wish I had a longer test drive on the freeway before I bought the car. I have an 09 sport model with manual transmission. I think I will have the dealer check the alignment. The grooves in the road pull the car all over the place, and then the slightest correction can occasionally really over correct. I am just talking about at 65 to 70 mph. I have driven hundreds of cars in my life and never experienced anything like the dartyness of this car. If I take my hands of the steering wheel, it will not hold its lane for more than about 3 seconds. It doesn't pull one way or the other, but the road will eventually grab it and yank it off course.
For those who say its the tires, I tend to disagree. Remember, old E-class rode 195s & ITRs rode on 205s. If anything, I think the Fit's are "over-tired": Mini's come standard in 175s. The only thing is is the narrow, upright design of the Fit doesn't help itself stability wise.