Highway handling
I'll say it again, change to 205/50-15's to fix this problem. Downside is you'll lose about 1 mpg, and depending on the tire, you may get more noise (I didn't). Upside is the "freeway wander" problem is gone, the car sticks better on cornering, and though I didn't do an A/B test, it's likely that the extra rubber helps improve the Fit's average braking performance. You also get a much wider choice of rubber. No rubbing at all using the stock Sport wheels with the +50 offset, and stock suspension.
The stiffer sidewall of a 205/45 would be an improvement, at the cost of ride quality, something the Fit is short on to start with. The problem with 205/45's is speedo error, the diameter is 19 mm smaller than stock. When compared to the 205/50's, their diameter is only 1.5 mm larger than stock.
You do know that the stock wheel size is 16 inches and not 15 inches right...??
.... food for thought
Doh!! You beat me to it!!! And he states he has an 09 Sport so not sure how he didn't need to change wheel size.... hmmm
I have a new 09 Fit base, with 5 speed, had it about 3 weeks and love driving this car. One thing I have found is that it feels a big squirly at highway speeds, seems to need a lot of attention to keep it going in a straight line. Anyone else finding this? Is it the stock tires? A quirk of the steering system? Interested is hearing from others about this.
I have the anti-roll bar and Base size tyres (Mine are Goodyear GT3 though), and I have no issues with motorway handling.
What is a bit hard to sort out of this thread is the difference in high speed stability between Base and Sport models. The Sport differs in two important respects:
1. The lower profile 185/55 x 16 tires on the Sport, vs. the 175/65 x 15 tires on the Base. Note also that the 16 inch tires are H speed rated, and the 15 inchers are not.
2. The presence of a rear stabilizer bar on the Sport, not present on the Base.
Maybe it is Sport Snobbery, but I would think that these two upgrades would both act to improve high speed stability. I promise that when our on-order Orange Revolution Sport w/Nav arrives, I will be sure to check it out at 75 mph on I-95 and report back.
1. The lower profile 185/55 x 16 tires on the Sport, vs. the 175/65 x 15 tires on the Base. Note also that the 16 inch tires are H speed rated, and the 15 inchers are not.
2. The presence of a rear stabilizer bar on the Sport, not present on the Base.
Maybe it is Sport Snobbery, but I would think that these two upgrades would both act to improve high speed stability. I promise that when our on-order Orange Revolution Sport w/Nav arrives, I will be sure to check it out at 75 mph on I-95 and report back.
Changing tire brands is the easy solution.
Last edited by mahout; Dec 23, 2008 at 09:20 AM.
I see posts referring to 205/50R15 size. From an online tire size calculator, it shows that 205/55R15 is closer to the original overall height thus reducing speedometer inaccuracy. Not sure about clearances though.
I'm thinking about when I need to change my original 175/65R15 Dunlops that i'll change sizes. What do you guys think about 185/60R15 or even 195/60R15 sizes?
I'm thinking about when I need to change my original 175/65R15 Dunlops that i'll change sizes. What do you guys think about 185/60R15 or even 195/60R15 sizes?
^^With the 96-00 Civics, Honda used 185/65/14. For the Si they used 195/55/15. Typically you can up the first number and you have to lower the 2nd number. Like 185/65/14-195/60/14-205/55/14. Or 185/55/16-195/50/16-205/45/16. Or 195/55/15-205/50/15-185/60/15. All of those sizes are pretty close to the same circumfrence and you can get away with using them. The Fits tire size is almost identicle to 96-00 Civics and 94-00 Integras.
I found this thread, because the straight line stability on my car is horrible. I wish I had a longer test drive on the freeway before I bought the car. I have an 09 sport model with manual transmission. I think I will have the dealer check the alignment. The grooves in the road pull the car all over the place, and then the slightest correction can occasionally really over correct. I am just talking about at 65 to 70 mph. I have driven hundreds of cars in my life and never experienced anything like the dartyness of this car. If I take my hands of the steering wheel, it will not hold its lane for more than about 3 seconds. It doesn't pull one way or the other, but the road will eventually grab it and yank it off course.
I found this thread, because the straight line stability on my car is horrible. I wish I had a longer test drive on the freeway before I bought the car. I have an 09 sport model with manual transmission. I think I will have the dealer check the alignment. The grooves in the road pull the car all over the place, and then the slightest correction can occasionally really over correct. I am just talking about at 65 to 70 mph. I have driven hundreds of cars in my life and never experienced anything like the dartyness of this car. If I take my hands of the steering wheel, it will not hold its lane for more than about 3 seconds. It doesn't pull one way or the other, but the road will eventually grab it and yank it off course.
I have a 09 Sport Fit that I commute about 45 miles at around 70 mph round trip to and from work. It is mostly highway driving. I have not notice any straight line stability problem with the OEM tire 185/55 on 16" rims under typical driving condition. But when there is a cross wind or when I am pass by a larger vehicle, a pickup truck, mini-van, full size van, tractor trailer, etc I do feel being push around.
A short time lurker & potential owner here. I also found the handling of the Sport AT model I test drove a bit different. When you turn, it plants itself nicely but it has an unnatural sensation as it leans (rolls) when turning or bobbing during lane changes. I was going around 40 mph but was curious how the same movement feels @ hwy speeds. Judging by what I read, if the Fit is that sensitive to alignment errors and/or tires, it would seem it is an inherent characteristic of a light, tall & narrow car like it is. Granted, all of my cars were lowered (Celica, Integra, VW, E46) but the Fit drove more like my current X3 sport: similar levels of initial grip & body control but bobbing & weaving of an SUV. The X3 has enough heft & body control to be stable @ hwy speeds, I've wondered how the Fit would do w/o the weight to stabilize itself. If the Fit is in need to constant alignment checks & finicky about tires, I'm afraid the Fit simply was designed primarily as a city car.
I found this thread, because the straight line stability on my car is horrible. I wish I had a longer test drive on the freeway before I bought the car. I have an 09 sport model with manual transmission. I think I will have the dealer check the alignment. The grooves in the road pull the car all over the place, and then the slightest correction can occasionally really over correct. I am just talking about at 65 to 70 mph. I have driven hundreds of cars in my life and never experienced anything like the dartyness of this car. If I take my hands of the steering wheel, it will not hold its lane for more than about 3 seconds. It doesn't pull one way or the other, but the road will eventually grab it and yank it off course.
For those who say its the tires, I tend to disagree. Remember, old E-class rode 195s & ITRs rode on 205s. If anything, I think the Fit's are "over-tired": Mini's come standard in 175s. The only thing is is the narrow, upright design of the Fit doesn't help itself stability wise.




