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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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Once you are use to driving a car with a small displacement engine you can jockey around in traffic and leave much faster cars far behind you..... I had to make deliveries in Dallas out of an overloaded VW diesel pick up with 60 H.P. and a lot of low end torque.... I covered more area and made more money than anyone else doing the same thing I was.... You have to keep your speed up, accelerate toward openings before they open, keep the revs up and stay off of your brakes by not moving up too close to slower moving vehicles.... Friends that didn't grow up in the DFW area that ride with me when I go up that way literally start screaming at me when my old driving habits resurface in that environment....The Fit is far from being slow to a person that knows how to drive it.
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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It's like I've said before: there are no slow cars, just slow drivers.
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rhyneba
The Fit is slow, albeit relative.

In 1984 a Porsche 944 got to 60 in about 9 seconds or so, not too far off what either a GD or GE do with either MT or AT. Perspective changes things a bit, eh?

For me, I own a 381 horse Tundra or a V6 Accord I can drive if I don't drive the Fit. I do miss the power in passing situations; passing two cars at a time when the second car doesn't really want you to is much harder. Just reading that back to myself made me laugh. Impossible. So you have to surprise them with a rapid, timed overtake with no notice, speed already built. Fun, pure and simple. Burst out from behind the rear car and whip their ass before they realize a FIT just blasted by at like 32.6mpg.

Around town the gearing of my AT makes it more enjoyable for than the manual, it feels peppy and quick, tons of fun in the cut and thrust. I have the opportunity to drive either of my other cars every day; since I have bought my Fit I've driven the Tundra once.

We acclimatize ourselves to straight-line acceleration but so far I never tire of an engaging, eager, nimble chassis. I plan on a PRM, K&N or to build my own shorty intake, I plan to add the HKS High Power axle-back and an Eibach spring kit but that's it.

Until there's a supercharger, of course....

37 year old father of 4.
there must be some parallel between sneaky driving and the ol' cut and thrust and fathering 4. I'm not sure though...
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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The Fit has a lot of attributes that a person needs to exploit and make the most of it....Massive horsepower and automatic transmissions are a poor substitute for poor driving skills and reminds me of people that feel that they need a semi automatic high capacity fire arm as compensation for not being able to hit what they aim at with one well placed shot, or a cabon fiber shafted oversized golf club to hit a ball further than they could with a steel shafted club because they can't play worth a damned..... When Stirling Moss test drove an early Austin Mini in London he got into it so much and had such a good time that when the cops finally caught up with him and he had to face a judge his drivers license was revoked..... This was in a little under powered car with less than half the power of a Fit equipped with 10 inch wheels..
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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I grew driving VW Bugs, which always had a huge gap between 3d and 4th; if you kept your speed up, you were golden, but you wouldn't give away 5 mph to save your mother's life. Fits aren't that bad, but maintaining inertia is still important.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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I've driven MANY different cars in my line of work, including 911 Turbos, Cayenne Turbo S's, R8's, S8's and so on. I've driven chipped 996 Turbos, chipped with bolt ons-RS6s and a bunch of other exotics.

I've also owned two D-series Civics and a Sentra SE-R. The Fit is not "slow", it is a different type of car. You need to keep the revs up - and you need to choose your gear differently.

I like the Fit because it is very comfortable rolling along a backroad in 5th gear and 2200RPM, and takes very well to just "cruising". What I miss was the power-on-demand my 2.5L Sentra had in the middle gears. The Fit drives much like an older 92-95 Civic. It almost forces you to drive economically, but also begs to be driven like a small car - which I love.

In the end, I think the Fit could benefit from an honest extra 30 or so horsepower, and a different 5th gear.
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FITProject
and a different 5th gear.
or a 6th
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by guitar_trance
In what specific situations are you owners experiencing the Fit's supposed extreme lack of power the most? When is it the most noticeable for you?
I've had two Honda Civics, a '96 HX Coupe and a '96 CX Hatch...the coupe was definitely slower as the hatch was lighter, but I like the feel of my GE Fit. It's definitely slow...but it's very responsive to turns and does put rubber to road if driven right. Then again, as soon as the snow hit here, I have to put it in 4th to get it going anywhere (why the dealer would put snow tires on a car driven in a state with snow 6 months out of the year, I will never understand). I would like to feel a Turbo'd or K'd Fit though...I'm sure those "econoboxes" aren't slow! hahaha! I'm with you though...the Fit is definitely the most capable car I've ever driven (in my short 9 years of driving)!!!
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hondaFORlife
or a 6th
Exactly! An "overdrive" to make it more "economical"! hahaha!
 
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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In the end, I think the Fit could benefit from an honest extra 30 or so horsepower, and a different 5th gear.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you about that.... That is roughly what I have now thanks to Kraft Werks.... Just by going to very light wheels and tires you gain a great deal of performance improvement in every area that can be improved. Throttle controllers are nice too.
 
Old Dec 10, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve244
there must be some parallel between sneaky driving and the ol' cut and thrust and fathering 4. I'm not sure though...
Just my demographics lol... but getting parallel, sneaky and the cut and thrust all work together fine as long you keep her away from your wife.
 
Old Dec 10, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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I was pressed for time yesterday, running behind for an appointment. I pushed my Fit around but good and it ate it up! I even got a little screech out of the front tires once when accelerating! LOL! I spend most of my time being a conservative driver, both for gas savings and to go easy on the car. But every so often, whether there's a need or just for fun, I lace into the car. I think it likes to be opened up a bit every now and then. It sure seemed to like it yesterday! I had a blast! Slow? Not that I noticed!

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Old Dec 10, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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I agree. In day to day driving, I usually "drive it like I gotta pay for it if I break it", but sometimes I can't resist the temptation to "get on it". The Fit actually seems to enjoy being driven hard, and seems to run better for a few days afterward.

Of course this may just be my imagination.
 
Old Dec 10, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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The Fit is the first car I have driven in years (nay, decades) that has a free-revving engine that actually feels unstressed in the upper RPM ranges. Texas Coyote is right on the mark about finding the appropriate style to drive a small vehicle (car or motorcycle) effectively. Let the engine rev, and take advantage of corner speed. Of course, gas mileage may suffer, but at its worst, mileage on the Fit is about the best highway mileage I ever got out of the Subaru.
 
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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I traded in my 04 Volvo V70 R for my Fit Sport. My Volvo, modded with CAI, Free flow with race cat/convertor and upgraded ECU made approx 330 HP and was a beast. Had it in Germany and hit the 155 limiter weekly.

So, the Fit is a huge change, but damn, I really enjoy driving it. It is a momentum car due to lack ot HP/torque but once you get it going it is a lot of fun. Sure I would like more power, but as a whole package, including the fuel economy, I am very happy with it.
 
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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My previous car was a BMW 540i and to be honest the only thing I miss is the V8. Love how cheap the fit is at the pump, love to know cheap repairs will be down the road, and so far modding has been a blast. I've actually been pleasantly surprised with the fits tiny engine, I think it's quicker than most people think. Like a lot of people are saying it makes a huge diff to know the car and how to drive it to get the most out of it. my advise would also be getting a lighter wheel/tire set-up, I have a GE mt, and noticed a tiny gain with an intake and exhaust...but the biggest difference I could actually feel immediately were lighter wheels. i think they were 6-8 lbs lighter each and i love em. big fan of weight reduction since then haha
 
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Gary
I agree. In day to day driving, I usually "drive it like I gotta pay for it if I break it", but sometimes I can't resist the temptation to "get on it". The Fit actually seems to enjoy being driven hard, and seems to run better for a few days afterward.

Of course this may just be my imagination.
I feel like my Fit runs better if I redline it or near redline it at least once a day or so. I feel like if you wait for it to warm up properly then rev it up high as soon as it's safe to your trip will return better MPG overall. This could be just my imagination, as well, but it seems happier after being ravaged.
 
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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I'm considering buying the Fit, but I know how slow they are. But I'm not getting the Fit for that reason, since I own a 08 civic si. I just want a Fit for everyday stuff, like going to work and whatnot.

If you bought the Fit for speed...... dunno what to tell you.
 
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Are people forgetting the Fit has more power and torque than the Civic Si and CRX Si had in their heyday?(89-91) I had a 89 Civic Si, and the first time I drove the Fit, it reminded me of that car; plenty peppy(not barn door burner fast, but plenty of get up and go) and go kart toss-able.

I'm currently in a 2007 VW GTI lease that is up in July 2011. Now this car is plenty fast and handles pretty damn good, but when my lease is up, so is the warranty. As well some engine design issues that lead to premature wear of the cam follower, that if it goes when it's out of warranty, will be stupid expensive to repair, hence why I will be turning in and come back to Honda and get a Fit Sport. Sure it will "slower" than my GTI, but not like some people are making it out to be and will handle pretty damn well for a small car. Plus I can go back to using regular gas, and I'll have a solid NON-Turbo Honda engine that just begs to be revved!
 
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by moniz
Are people forgetting the Fit has more power and torque than the Civic Si and CRX Si had in their heyday?(89-91) I had a 89 Civic Si, and the first time I drove the Fit, it reminded me of that car; plenty peppy(not barn door burner fast, but plenty of get up and go) and go kart toss-able.

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You're kidding,right ? My 91CRX Si even with 190,000 miles on it and ready for SiR rebuild would pull away from my 08 Fit like it was glued to the ground. If memory serves my Si had 127 hp and 112 lb-ft.
And weighed nearly 500 lb less than my Fit.
The best thing about the Fit is its reliable as a Honda and is BY FAR the best driver in the sbox class.
 



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