one of the worst posts i have ever read.

 

then WHERE are those EFFING numbers?

ALL those 'reliablity reports' you are talking about rate AMERICAN built hondas as EPICALLY reliable cars!

seriously man wtf does your thought process consist of? shoving your own head up your ass to see if you even have a brain?

dont know why? dont know how? thats gotta be the POOREST argument for ANYTHING i have ever had the extreme displeasure of reading.

if YOU cant post SOLID QUANTIFIABLE EVIDENCE to your claims...shut the f*&@ up.

 

Haha Go Eldaino!!

 

Epic win! +rep for awesome post!

 

Well I never said it was some sort of official statistical analysis. But I would rather takes reviews from real owners who live with the car day in and out than that of a professional revewier. All I'm saying is there are lots of compliants of the 200 or so people who reviewed the 09 Accord related to quality issues, and there were none I could find for the 09 Fit (188 reviews as of yesterday).

Finally, I'm still happy my Fit is 100% made in Japan regardless of how good the American Honda plants are. That's that, "ain't" nothing going to change my mind on it either. If you own an American made Honda and you're happy with it, well good for you, I will continue to be happy with my Japanese made Fit.

 

"Ain't nothing going to change my mind on it either."

No intelligent human being should ever utter these words. Oh, wait, they never have.

 

You obviously have zero sense of humor.

As far as intelligence goes, I have nothing to worry about. Being a member of MENSA alone doesn't qualify me, however that combined with my college GPA and the type of work I do adds some credence to that claim.

So, let me rephrase the sentence for you in an attempt to appease your very high standards of intelligence, "I'm elated me 2009 Honda Fit Sport was manufactured in Japan and nothing will change my mind to the contrary." I sincerly hope that meets your approval, I really wouldn't want you to think I wasn't intelligent.

 

It's not about the "ain't," dgs, it's about the idea that no amount of evidence will ever interfere with your preexisting belief. Down here in Georgia we call that "fundamentalism," and it makes it very difficult to teach scientific methodology to people who believe in magic words and incantations.

 

Needs to not take things so seriously. Seriously.

 

yeah, but do you have this distinguished who's who among american high school students lapel pin?



didn't think so...

 

My parents fell for that when I was in high school--"you've got to get in this, son, it's such an honor." When the book came, they discovered that a neighbor kid was also in it--he was a D student whose only extracurricular activity was one club (and no, he wasn't an officer), and he was in jail for shoplifting the week after graduation.

 

awesome post

 

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you.

I feel the sarcasm in the last part, the first part not so much. So let's hear that GPA and what your line of work is! May as well reveal the answers since you're already gloating about them. You can be a *smart* guy and still say some dumb-ass things.

 

You want to throw "scientific fundamentalism" at me because I said no one can convince me that I should not feel more comfortable about my Fit being made in Japan than the USA? That's rich.

Tell you what, since you opened up the can worms, why don't you provide facts and figures, and your sources for the defect rate out of the Honda plant in the US and the one in Japan since the inception of the US plant. While you're at it tell me about recalls, TSB's, repair rates, and owner stratification survey's from cars manufactured at each plant. I want you to use "scientific methodology" to provide hard facts and figures about exactly why I should feel just as comfortable about a Fit manufactured in the US and one manufactured in Japan.

And no, WIKI quotes don't count, I real, hard, pen and paper measurable evidence. Please, we all await with bated breath about you disproving my hypothesis wrong about the quality and reliability of cars manufactured out of each plant. Like I said, quote all of your sources, even if that means taking a trip to each plant. Please prove my simple minded "fundamentalism" wrong!

As far as my GPA, I have nothing to prove, I know what I got and I take a real issues with anyone questioning my intelligence, especially when they don't know me save a post on the Internet.

 

I'll let you have the burden of proof since you're the one who claims to be so certain of your stance. I don't really have one, I don't claim to have researched this topic at any great length but I am skeptical of your assertions about US Honda plants. Back at ya, gimme those numbers. And if they pan out I will admit you may be right to be concerned about US-made Fits. At the end of the day I am just giving you a hard time for acting like a know-it-all. :]

 

Actually my post was directed at blyndgesser. He's the one who accused me of "fundamentalist" thinking. I'm waiting for him to prove my hypothesis wrong using the scientific method. The burden of proof is not on me, I'm not the one who called someone "unintelligent," or "fundamentalist" in thinking. I have my own hypothesis and if he thinks it's wrong, well then he's more than welcome to prove me wrong with his thorough, verifiable, repeatable research.

I think you need to rethink who the "know-it-all" is in this thread, and it "ain't" me.

 

You've already said that nothing can change your mind. So why should I invest the effort? Your statement isn't a hypothesis. It's a conclusion.

Others here have described such thinking as "unintelligent." I merely pointed out that you had drawn what you regard as an irrefutable conclusion, and equated the finality of that conclusion with the finality of other conclusions drawn by others ("fundamentalists") based on similarly insufficient evidence. I have also pointed out that such thinking is often extremely resistant to any argument based on evidence. (You might check out Thomas S. Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, for a fuller discussion of this phenomenon.) I would point out that the smartest people I know have been the ones most acutely aware of the limits of their own experience and knowledge.

In a post subsequent to the one that drew such fire, you've correctly described the nature of the research that would be necessary to prove or disprove your statement. You've stated that you believe the Japanese built cars are superior--and that nothing will change that belief. I've stated that I believe both are acceptable--and in case it wasn't clear, I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge that future experience and/or research could easily alter this conclusion. But as neither you nor I appear inclined to do the research, the question will remain, for now, a matter of personal preference rather than an empirical statement of fact.

Just call it what it is. That's all I ask.

 

Car reliability, most reliable cars

"All Hondas and Acuras were average or above."

Presumably this includes all USDM Hondas and Acuras. Even the ones made in the US. which includes:
Accord Sedan
Accord Coupe
Acura TL
Acura RDX
Civic Sedan
Civic Coupe
Civic GX
Element
CRV
Odyssey
Pilot

Plus Ridgeline in Canada.
http://www.hondanews.com/categories/1094/releases/192

 

"So why should I invest the effort?" That's what I thought you would say. We call this a "dick tuck" where I come from, but that would probably be too uncouth a term for someone of your superior intelligence. Maybe cop-out works better for you.

Reading the rest of your post is pointless. Next time you decide to refer to someone as "unintelligent" or "fundamentalist" in their thinking you better have solid facts to back your insults. Otherwise you come off as a know-it-all blowhard. We all know know-it-all blowhards typically don't know anything. You're no different.

 

LOL good one