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Old 10-07-2010, 09:54 AM
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CRZ test in November Car&Driver

Finally, a full real test of the CRZ 6 speed manual.
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1. Their CRZ is slower than the Fit both 0-60 and 0-1/4SS (9.6 vs 8.6 and 17.2 vs 16.7)
2. Their CRZ had better top speed, 122 to 110 mph thanks to aero handicapped Fit.
Big Note: C&D charged their CRZ IMA battery to full before each run, (see test notes) so acceleration numbers are the best that could be expected. Wait'll CR runs those tests.
3. Perhaps due to better tires as well as lower cg, road holding on the CRZ bettered the Fit but then our Fit gets .88g on Direzzas.
4. Their CRZ got 36 mpg compared to Fit 33 mpg.

I'd like to see a dyno run where the max torque is measured at what rpm. I guess that maximum torque of 122 lbft occurs at about 3500-4000 rpm and the electric motor suppiies about 20 lbft. But bless 'em they did have 4 wheel disc brakes.

I hope Honda is working on a CRZ Si with a 2 liter engine. Bet that would take care of that juddering in 6th at 40 mph. And make us CRX lovers happy and with our spending make Honda happy too.
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:13 PM
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wow those are some pretty sad numbers.
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:56 PM
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I sat in a CRZ a few days ago and I don't fit in. Not enough headroom. That's definitely not a problem with the Fit.
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:59 PM
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It test drove one when I went to buy my Fit; my main concerns where that it was way to small for my frame, and the fact that it was two small. IMO if you're going to buy a two seater why buy and underpowered CRZ?
 

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Old 10-07-2010, 01:09 PM
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CRZ = joke

If they made a hybrid CRZ pushing 140-150hp that did at least 0-60 in 7sec & 1/4 mile in 15-15.5 sec. and still got 36-37 mpg avg.. then they would have a "Sport Hybrid" and probably double the current sales at least.

Currently all they have is an overpriced 2 door Fit.



Edit...btw OP I posted this originally on 9-28-10. Post #140.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...tml#post915656
We already had a CRZ thread. I Don't think we need more.
 

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Old 10-07-2010, 01:15 PM
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TURBO the thing and watch out!
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Perrenoud Fit
TURBO the thing and watch out!
Wouldn't make must sense to me, especially when you aren't going to see huge HP gains with a bolt on kit. Also, why pay an extra $3-5k for power gains that you can get from purchasing a vehicle with more HP for less money?
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mahout
Finally, a full real test of the CRZ 6 speed manual.
Notes:
1. Their CRZ is slower than the Fit both 0-60 and 0-1/4SS (9.6 vs 8.6 and 17.2 vs 16.7)
2. Their CRZ had better top speed, 122 to 110 mph thanks to aero handicapped Fit.
Big Note: C&D charged their CRZ IMA battery to full before each run, (see test notes) so acceleration numbers are the best that could be expected. Wait'll CR runs those tests.
3. Perhaps due to better tires as well as lower cg, road holding on the CRZ bettered the Fit but then our Fit gets .88g on Direzzas.
4. Their CRZ got 36 mpg compared to Fit 33 mpg.

I'd like to see a dyno run where the max torque is measured at what rpm. I guess that maximum torque of 122 lbft occurs at about 3500-4000 rpm and the electric motor suppiies about 20 lbft. But bless 'em they did have 4 wheel disc brakes.

I hope Honda is working on a CRZ Si with a 2 liter engine. Bet that would take care of that juddering in 6th at 40 mph. And make us CRX lovers happy and with our spending make Honda happy too.
Where are you getting those numbers for the Fit? In Car and Driver's latest comparo test:

Fit:

0-60 - 8.3 secs
1/4 m - 16.5 @83
Top speed - 115

Before any tests on the CR-Z were published, driving the 6MT CR-Z, I felt the Fit was quicker, had better torque response and handles better. Those who nay-sayed me can send their apologies, lol.
 

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Old 10-07-2010, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Perrenoud Fit
TURBO the thing and watch out!

Eff that! Rewind that stator and watch out!!!!
 
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I'll wait for the CRB Si



wait...!!! I already have one
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:23 PM
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^lol, at first glance i thought it was a nissan cube

bisimoto is working on a few parts for the crz. they're bound to inject excitement into the L15a given what they were able to accomplish with d-series. i can't wait to see what they come up with.
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:33 PM
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The CR-Z is a unique car. If you don't know the definition of that word, look it up. Actually, people should look it up, since it's horribly misused.

As such, I think it is a cool. Performance numbers don't really mean much to me though.
 
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mini MiniVan
Wouldn't make must sense to me, especially when you aren't going to see huge HP gains with a bolt on kit. Also, why pay an extra $3-5k for power gains that you can get from purchasing a vehicle with more HP for less money?
Too conserative to Wait till a company puts one out for us. NO I'm talk'n about a 34lb/min MHI TD05H "14B" that would do it @15 psi
You want Fast Or CHEAP? and 5K is like a dual turbo setup. F.I. is hp on tap with good gas mileage to boot
 

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Old 10-12-2010, 11:43 PM
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i wonder if the six speed trans would fit in a fit.... food for thought
 
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gripfaction
i wonder if the six speed trans would fit in a fit.... food for thought

According to C&D the 6 spd is fitted to the early Fit engine used in the CRZ and not the ones that come here in Fits. There's always an adapter plate. But why? The ratios don't look particularly inviting to the Fit engine.
 
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hayden
The CR-Z is a unique car. If you don't know the definition of that word, look it up. Actually, people should look it up, since it's horribly misused.

As such, I think it is a cool. Performance numbers don't really mean much to me though.

Thats why you're unique.
 
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