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Old 12-29-2010, 01:26 AM
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Engine swap ?

Is it possible to swap the l15 with anything but a k20, because that's all I have heard about. Just to clear this up by swap with anything I mean nothing like a chevy 454 lol what are some options? And what has been done?
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 05:09 AM
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I want to try to machine a bell housing adapter so that the fit tranny with accept a F22 or F22 SK2 motor...However this wont be anytime so... My L15A7 only has 22k on it and I won't think about an engine swap until 80k, if at all... its a fit.... By the time I'll want to swap a motor in I'll be able to buy a S2K for a few grand so its not really worth it...
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 07:45 AM
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80k?

I've driven non-Hondas well past that!

If you do an engine swap at 80k, I hope you put that engine in a good home to be used... cause I'm sure it can go twice that, at least.

I saw an article of a guy that maintained his Civic up to 500k!!!
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 08:12 AM
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S@*T Id expect an easy 200k out of these engines if treated well. I bought a female owned 97 civic with 176k miles on it and it had no oil or coolant in it and I have it up to 226k now. I dont think this engine will be any different. And really it not the engine or tranny thats having trouble in the civic. Its all the other wear items. Tie rod ends, Axle boots, belts....
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 02:24 PM
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in our desiel shop we had a guy come in with a mill. miles on his truck, all he does is go back and forth from west to east coast so idk y our hondas couldnt keep going, sure he probably replaced a lot of shit over the time but still original block
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 02:40 PM
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I've seen a GD with a B18C, but that took a lot of work. Why don't you want go with a K-Series?
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 02:50 PM
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I just wanted to know if there were any other options besides a k swap because that's all I have heard about and I head it's somewere between 7-12k for the swap is any of that true?
 
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Old 12-29-2010, 03:16 PM
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The reason people have only been doing Ks is because of its power potential and in most states there are laws about not swapping older engine into newer cars.
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 04:18 AM
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I get this strange feeling y'all don't know how involved an engine swap is with the ge8 fit. I don't believe a usdm ge8 k swap or any swap has been done yet . $&@! I think I'm the only one even trying actively to turbo the stock engine let alone get mounts and axles or even attempt to figure out the wiring for a k swap..
 

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Old 12-30-2010, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Goobers
80k?

I've driven non-Hondas well past that!

If you do an engine swap at 80k, I hope you put that engine in a good home to be used... cause I'm sure it can go twice that, at least.

I saw an article of a guy that maintained his Civic up to 500k!!!

I was just making a statement b/c I would want to get at least 80K miles out of the original L15A7 motor before swapping another performance oriented motor in. I'm well aware of them going way past 80k miles stock.
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 04:52 AM
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K20 swaps cost 8k or more usually. This is strictly a swap for people with money and time to piss away. Not for someone worried about getting x number of miles from the stock engine.

It's about novelty, commitment to the platform, and shiggles not performance when you are looking at a k swap. Also there will be a bit of prestige for whatever guy fabricates himself or gets hasport or whoever to fabricate mounts, axles, wiring harnesses, frame braces (if large cuts must be made into the frame for clearance), etc
 

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Old 12-30-2010, 05:42 AM
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don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to imply that he shouldn't do it. I only ask that he puts the l15 to some use or donate/sell/trade it to someone that can. It would be a shame to see it go to a scrap heap.
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 06:11 AM
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I hear you I was just curious if there was another motor that is a little more easily swapped then a k20 I don't have a prob making brakets I have a complete machine shop at my disposal( I wont make any one anything don't ask) so weird stuff can be made if I have to I just wanted to know if there is another motor with more aftermarket support that has more power then a l15 a k swap is more then I want for a dd
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 05:34 PM
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R18? It would be a lot of work for a whole 20 more hp, but it fits your search for more than the L but less than the K. You'd still get excellent gas mileage, too.
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 07:52 PM
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im pretty convinced i can fit a j35 in my ge8's engine bay, they put em in eg's i think it will be snug but nice
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by nilly1010
im pretty convinced i can fit a j35 in my ge8's engine bay, they put em in eg's i think it will be snug but nice
You have to fit the transmission in there too.. not to mention the whole laundry list of crap you'll need custom to pull it off.

But lets humor this nonsense, and lets say you get it in the car and get it driveable..

Do you have any idea how heavy that longblock is? Do you know what you'll have to do to the suspension geometry and components to make it even remotely enjoyable?

You are proposing putting an accord v6 into a GE8 you realize?

The car will handle and perform like crap. Just boost what you have, or save the money and buy a nicer car. This thread is ridiculous.
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:00 PM
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Seriously folks, the KWSC High Boost kit will blow your mind with 6 second 0 to 60 times after spinning the tires up to 40 before it hooks up..... It's a great place to start from and much cheaper.... There are threads By Lyon and DSM that are leading up to owner fabricated turbo installs and tuning that will be even more affordable and gratifying to those that are able to put their own together.... I have shoehorned big motors into lighter smaller vehicles and only one worked out well until the excessive torque and engine weight twisted the frame when I had slicks on it.
 
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:09 PM
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Alright maybe that was harsh, but if you are going to go through the time, expense and effort to mount a 3.5L V6 in the Fit of all things you should mount it mid ship and make it rear or all wheel drive.

The cost of this would be ridiculous of course.
 
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Leets
R18? It would be a lot of work for a whole 20 more hp, but it fits your search for more than the L but less than the K. You'd still get excellent gas mileage, too.
This is what I was thinking. Also Civics have had a history of add-on performance parts for which the FIT is seriously lacking. Add a turbo'd R18 in to the Fit and you are probably at or over 200whp with a lighter overall setup than a K20. You likely also retain a lot of the economy of the R18. A simple R18 with a CAI and exhaust will probably net you 30-40hp and a noticeable amount of torque with a little bit of weight gain over the L15. I think Honda should put a FIT "Si" with an R18 stock.

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Old 12-31-2010, 02:01 PM
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j35 is cheap, alluminum block only weighs 50 pounds more htan a b series.. and yes its going to be a tight squeeze and entirely custom, thats not for u to worry about, ive been taking measurements and talking to my friends who have machine shops etc because i would love to be hte first, dont mean to sound harsh, but no need for u to burst my bubble either lol and btw i would LOVE a kwsc highboost kit
 


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