The Facts of Life About the Oil Change
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I'm not sure it needs kicking up any. SpecBoy (and others) covered the salient points.
But, I was curious what the actual regulations are.
The Federal EPA does not regulate do-it-yourselfers (they only regulate used oil processors/shippers), but many states do.
Before listing the states, here's a blurb on the science of releasing used oil.
And here's an overview of how states handle DIY used oil.
Also, since recycling used oil has been actively managed for at least 30 years, there is a well established (and profitable) industry set up for it. Do big business a favor and give them your used oil.
Source.
ooo, this must chafe:
source
But, I was curious what the actual regulations are.
The Federal EPA does not regulate do-it-yourselfers (they only regulate used oil processors/shippers), but many states do.
Before listing the states, here's a blurb on the science of releasing used oil.
And here's an overview of how states handle DIY used oil.
Also, since recycling used oil has been actively managed for at least 30 years, there is a well established (and profitable) industry set up for it. Do big business a favor and give them your used oil.
Source.
ooo, this must chafe:
Originally Posted by Arizona Department of Environmental Quality
A person who generates used oil from maintaining personal vehicles and equipment (DIYer), must take the used oil to one of the following facilities: a DIY collection center; a household hazardous waste collection center or collection area; a used oil collection center; a used oil marketer; a used oil processor; or a re-refiner. A DIYer may also burn their own used oil, and other DIYers' oil as well, in an on-site, oil-fired space heater.
- For a description of a DIYer, Where Does Used Oil Come From?
- For a description of the various collection facilities, see Types of Collection Facilities.
- For descriptions of used oil marketers, processors/refiners, see Who Handles Used Oil?
Last edited by Steve244; Nov 16, 2011 at 11:32 AM.
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on the Should not do/illegal side (since you brought it up), disposing of oil in an improper manner (dumping, etc...) is Illegal. should make that decision a lot easier. As for the almighty Honda gods who I worship every stone upon which they walk... oh wait, i don't. auto manufacturers employ smart R&D people. It's common sense that they are actually going to know quite a bit about their profession. You don't get Jiffy-lube rookie making determinations about engine oil and other matters. again, it is common sense. And who chooses the vehicles that honda will be manufacturing has nothing to do with the people who engineer the engines and other components... they are unrelated. I will say that some of the marketing decisions haven't been the best but they have gotten noticed. I wouldn't mind a crosstour but the insight and CR-Z would not be my first choice. Don't have the money to share so sorry for that. We choose to "do without" so we can spend a little more at smaller local shops.
No one is dictating how you should live your life outside of saying that you, along with everyone, should be both fiscally, and socially responsible. It's not marketing that dumping oil is bad.
I wouldn't say I rag on Wal-mart, I would say that I oppose them quite strongly though. They Destroyed the businesses in the town I went to college in and all of those now unemployed residents were stuck working for wal-mart... for less money. Wal-mart lowered the standard of living for he area and in turn, creates many of it's own customers out of poverty.
Noooooo Re-read that. No reference to my wife like that... In My house, my wife, son, (hell, the cats) are all above me
making me... well... and I'm ok with that.
Wal-mart may employ a number of people but the majority of them (not necessarily directly working for WM) are not in the US. They are a company that has forced hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of jobs away from the US by making other companies move their workforce overseas in order to meet wal-mart's demands (for low prices). These companies would be out of business or in a much worse financial situation if they didn't move production overseas. Again, the loss is to the US workers.
~SB
No one is dictating how you should live your life outside of saying that you, along with everyone, should be both fiscally, and socially responsible. It's not marketing that dumping oil is bad.
I wouldn't say I rag on Wal-mart, I would say that I oppose them quite strongly though. They Destroyed the businesses in the town I went to college in and all of those now unemployed residents were stuck working for wal-mart... for less money. Wal-mart lowered the standard of living for he area and in turn, creates many of it's own customers out of poverty.
Noooooo Re-read that. No reference to my wife like that... In My house, my wife, son, (hell, the cats) are all above me
making me... well... and I'm ok with that.Wal-mart may employ a number of people but the majority of them (not necessarily directly working for WM) are not in the US. They are a company that has forced hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of jobs away from the US by making other companies move their workforce overseas in order to meet wal-mart's demands (for low prices). These companies would be out of business or in a much worse financial situation if they didn't move production overseas. Again, the loss is to the US workers.
~SB
My mistake!
steve- nice post! yah, that's wat i remember reading. 
yah, but not everyone lives in AZ and you never know when city rebuilding projects come around and digs that contaminated soil up and relocates it. wat if they dump it next to a pond or a water way? you dont need to be a science teacher to know that it can spread and get into the water system...
haha!!
The point was that a couple of green weenies tried to say it must be done. No such thing. Should? Maybe. Maybe greenie agenda that actually costs more than it is worth. The contamination of the water you talk about is if it is poured into the water. 4 qts does not seep to the groundwater as 4 qts.Unless you are where the water table is right below the surface, it won't make it to the water level. In AZ it is hundreds of feet down, and a bit here or there never makes it. Anyway, if you buy the weenie line, do it. Nobody tells others what they SHOULD do, since it is their OPINION. ( I taught science for 20 years.)
haha!!
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steve- nice post! yah, that's wat i remember reading.
yah, but not everyone lives in AZ and you never know when city rebuilding projects come around and digs that contaminated soil up and relocates it. wat if they dump it next to a pond or a water way? you dont need to be a science teacher to know that it can spread and get into the water system...
haha!!
yah, but not everyone lives in AZ and you never know when city rebuilding projects come around and digs that contaminated soil up and relocates it. wat if they dump it next to a pond or a water way? you dont need to be a science teacher to know that it can spread and get into the water system...
haha!!
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From: Peoria, AZ
steve- nice post! yah, that's wat i remember reading.
yah, but not everyone lives in AZ and you never know when city rebuilding projects come around and digs that contaminated soil up and relocates it. wat if they dump it next to a pond or a water way? you dont need to be a science teacher to know that it can spread and get into the water system...
haha!!
yah, but not everyone lives in AZ and you never know when city rebuilding projects come around and digs that contaminated soil up and relocates it. wat if they dump it next to a pond or a water way? you dont need to be a science teacher to know that it can spread and get into the water system...
haha!!
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I just can't resist! It's true that all 4 qts of oil don't reach the groundwater or the river or vegetable garden or whatever. If everyone thought that their little "oil spill" wouldn't make much difference, think about how much contamination there would be! However, if everyone decided NOT to dump their used oil, think about how much LESS contamination there would be! Ripples in the pond....we all can make a difference.
lol... you know the internet is accessible from the world, right? im not talking about just you. i dont want people misunderstanding from your irresponsible posts that it's okay to pour used motor oil on your lawn or down the drain or storm sewers, etc. basically that is what you are implying. not cool.
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lol... you know the internet is accessible from the world, right? im not talking about just you. i dont want people misunderstanding from your irresponsible posts that it's okay to pour used motor oil on your lawn or down the drain or storm sewers, etc. basically that is what you are implying. not cool.
Are you 14? "Greenie weenies?" So Nixon, the founder of the EPA and former republican president, was a Greenie Weenie?
That is just pants-on-head retarded.
I am not particularly green, especially when you consider I've had more than a couple vehicles that run on leaded fuel and do gallons per mile, but its pretty fucked up to think it's fine to just dump oil on the ground. It's not only illegal, but its grossly irresponsible to the rest of the community.
Apparently you having been a teacher is part of the reason our education system is so boned.
Last edited by DiamondStarMonsters; Nov 17, 2011 at 03:03 AM.
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Are you 14? "Greenie weenies?" So Nixon, the founder of the EPA and former republican president, was a Greenie Weenie?
That is just pants-on-head retarded.
I am not particularly green, especially when you consider I've had more than a couple vehicles that run on leaded fuel and do gallons per mile, but its pretty fucked up to think it's fine to just dump oil on the ground. It's not only illegal, but its grossly irresponsible to the rest of the community.
Apparently you having been a teacher is part of the reason our education system is so boned.
That is just pants-on-head retarded.
I am not particularly green, especially when you consider I've had more than a couple vehicles that run on leaded fuel and do gallons per mile, but its pretty fucked up to think it's fine to just dump oil on the ground. It's not only illegal, but its grossly irresponsible to the rest of the community.
Apparently you having been a teacher is part of the reason our education system is so boned.
