Just as title says


Pics of tear down to come this weekend. It was finally time for it to go. I suspect the pressure plate metal bits that contact the throwout bearing broke. And now all I have is a car constantly in gear. Drove it home like 20 miles out of NYC using the starter and double clutching.

After miles of abuse it died while disengaging into neutral lol
Good tough car. Parts were like 210$

This weekend will be fun... First FWD clutch job FTL RWD is easy.

 

you drove it with the throw out bearing broken? iam surprised it didn't weld shut the shafts together.

 

A. It's a Honda so everything is cheap for it
B. It will disengage gears only at speed so it can't be all that bad. Once it's apart I will know and show pics

 

What type of use did the failed clutch see? Did you race it or ride the clutch up hills much? Any towing? Just curious.

You probably have one of the highest mileage GE8s out there!

 

And I thought I drove a lot

Interested to see the outcome and install!

 

yeah i drove for 2 hours with the throw out bearing broken before, it had a loud wining sound, and i ended up having to replace the whole transmission cuz everything got so hot that it welded together. I hope it looks ok when you open it up.

 

136K miles on NYC roads since 09.... wow.

please post an update after your done.

 

Whoa! You must be one "mean" shifter! Yes, pix and update us please. Good luck!

 

Queens in the house!!! Where abouts? Well anyway that is alot of miles.. Let us know whats up

 

I used to work for a pharmacy delivering infertility meds in the tri-state area... hence the mileage

The car sees 7k rpm all the time and is driven hard. 90% of mileage is highway. Autoxed 1 time and took 2nd overall for the day after putting on my dunlop dirrezzas on. Tracked 1 time at an open track event at thunderbolt like the 2nd month I had it ... did great really fun to drive.

As far as maintenance goes. No leaks of any kind on the car.
Clutch/Brake fluids changed every 25k
Tranny fluid drained and replaced every 25k
Coolant every 25k
Oil every 4k or so
Water pump thermostat serpentine belt and all hoses changed at 75k miles or so (preventive)
Valve adjustment done at like 115k when recall was done
Does not burn a drop of oil.

I am an SCCA and BMWCCA racer. Used to compete a lot more the past few years when I had my M3 and I am no stranger to tracking a car or maintaining one or working on one. This is a fun daily and it gets beat on but also maintained properly. At about 40k miles the clutch started to feel a bit off and never really did anything about it so I drove it till it died and now I will get a new one fitted. Shouldn't be too much of a nightmare story here ... I guess the pressure plate failed or a spring is missing somewhere or maybe the metal pieces touching the throw out bearing are done.

I will snap some photos this weekend... Maybe do a DIY but how hard can it be just take the wheel off pop the axle out take a few things off unbolt and bam tranny is on your lap...

 

I would'nt be surprised if it is currently the highest in the nation.

Pretty much a daily driver

my shifts points are rather low for getting going ... I can get away with smoothly moving the car at <1k rpm compared to a few people I drove with that use close to 3k yikes ...
no towing
never slipped the clutch more than it needed to be with the exception of a light race then yea it would see 3500-4k slip but nothing prolonged

Never did it once slip on me all this time so I know its not the clutch disk itself ... If I still have sloppy shifting feel then I will change the slave and put some superblue fluid in the line see if it firms things up

 

I gotta find out how to get involved in these Auto-X events, especially here in the NYC tri-state area.

 

Gotta get those deliveries on time... Any Viagras in the mix?

Wow! Really put it through the paces... Well looks like you take care of it just as hard as you drive it. So it was just time to go then... EOL...

 

subscribed for tear down goodness

 

subscribed.. would love to see a DIY on this

 

lol i replaced my ge8 clutch not too long ago, the newer units for the 2011+ fits seem beefier, its an easy job tranny comes out the bottom just got to rotate it

 

Will be interesting to see what the failure is. I would think broken pressure plate fingers would make one heck of a racket. I wonder if the arm between the slave and TO bearing could have bent/broke?

Last clutch I did was an Audi quattro trans. You wouldn't want to drop one of those in your lap.

Fit clutch should't be too hard. Looking forward to the pix.

 

with 72k on mine would it be ok if I asked for some advice when performing future preventative maintainence. Specifically regarding the belts, pump and hoses...

glad to hear the car is as tough as I thought....

 

So I ended up doing the clutch job.
New pressure plate
New clutch disk
ordered the wrong bolts instead of the pressure plate ones the flywheel ones came in ... will return them

Now let me tell you this. This was my first FWD clutch job and hopefully the last one I will ever do. RWD is much easier. CV axles suck major ass.

The stupid heat shield for the p/s CV axle near the downpipe is no more as it is absolutely the worst engineered piece of junk that is in the way of everything. Got rid of it I can't imagine the Fit can create more than 600 degrees of heat on a hot day under normal driving. Now the stupid engineering continues with reversing the transmission bolt on the very top under the intake which requires you to get under the damn car and wiggle around with extensions to try and take it off. There is one also below that one hidden by the afore mentioned heat shield which is no more partly for this reason. Absolutely no way of getting to it with a socket and extension unless that's gone. Had to wiggle around the back of the engine with sockets and extensions to try and get those two out.

Another PITA the stupid bracketry under the battery. Seriously are they retarded? And who's idea is it to have to have nearly every damn bolt require a ton of effort to get it off all the way to the last bit of every thread My god.

Now that's done. I spilled half my transmission fluid all over my driveway. Popped the drivers side cv axle out of the tranny and took me an hour to hammer back in place. Raped my middle finger to the bone on some stupid idiotic one time use pressure clip for the cooling system while taking the intake off. Totally not gave a crap while ripping the one piece underpanel off the front of the car another idiotic design so not its all held in with zipties. Couldn't get the damn 32mm Nut off so I bypassed that with some brute force and taking off the two bolts on the bottom of the shock.

Let's see what else went horribly not according to plan...

On a side note pretty much 3 springs killed themselves on the clutch itself so that was why it would not shift... Completely warped the clutch.

A positive note... the damn clutch was worn maybe 1-1.5 mm combined on both sides compared to a brand new disk ... didnt take pics of this but believe me it had plenty of life in it ... if it wasn't for the springs failing it would have lasted me at least to 250k... So for all of you "normal" drivers out there you should have no problem having the clutch last for at least 250k if you have to replace before then .... then you do not know how to drive a stick plain and simple.

I also noticed virtually no scoring on the flywheel or the pressure plate, very unusual compared to the BMW world where the harder it was driven the worse the scoring and damage... Here pretty much NOTHING.

So.... Moral of the story ? Pay some shop to do it. Major PITA unless you have nothing better to do on a sat afternoon ... took me 6 hours to do with a friend and a few beers ... by comparison I can do an engine swap on a bmw in 8 hours start to finish


On to the few photos...

Pressure plate and clutch disk that came out of the car... notice the crooked spring... but also notice the clean surface


A close up and a bit more tinkering with the springs ... lol BTW the whole thing was warped in every direction imaginable...


Original flywheel before getting hit with sandpaper

 

Wow that's a wierd failure. Clutch friction material and pp look great. Did you let the car wheel hop a lot or anything? That's about the only thing I can think of that would do that and leave everything else looking that good.