Any sunroof installer should be able to do the install... even without the template. Measure twice, cut once

 

if some guy can do this in his garage Webasto should be able to figure this out and still warranty it

 

Have you tried talking to honda parts at your dealer? They will not know what to do intially, I'm sure. But if you push them, I bet they could find out what needs to happen.

Since I saw the JDM models with the skyroof, I've always wanted one. If you make this work, you'll be the only USDM I know of with it... until I copy you.

Let us know how it goes!

 

Who is the authority on hard to find JDM Honda stuff in the US? I need some pro help.

 

Check out post #27 from JDM_DOHC_SiR, it shows the diagrams of a few different glass roofs on the JDM Fit and some braces that needs to be installed and replaced to regain structural integrity of the car.

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...-thread-2.html

 

Big thank you to Choro for digging this up, and JDM_DOHC_SiR for the original work.

Wow. Ok deep breaths....
I had myself a good little cry.

Now, moving on. Looks like I need a new roof! Can someone more smarty than I explain to me what we're seeing in all these pictures?

1) I'm pretty confident I have all the sunroof hardware, but what else would I need other than the roof panel with the hole in it? (#2 in the last picture)
2) what is the part number for the roof, and can anyone help me find one?

EDIT: #7 in first picture is the roof, I need that, not #2 in the last picture

 

Cool shit! Looking forward to this

 

Starting with the top picture, looks like #7 is the roof (the exterior of the car)

The second, third, and fourth pictures look to be the skyroof assembly (your ebay purchase). Second looks like the biggest piece of the webasto assembly. #10 appears to be a gasket for the glass. Third, obviously #2 is the glass. Fourth appears to be showing the sunshade for the skyroof, looks like it is three parts that work in a telescopic fashion.

Fifth or bottom picture shows two potential headliner boards. #2 is the headliner board you can use for a nice clean OEM look. Most aftermarket sunroof installs use a technique called "floating headliner" where they cut the existing headliner to make room for the sunroof and its moving parts then simply pull the excess cloth tight around the assembly, contact cement the cloth to the assembly, and stuff the voids with foam. As someone with an aftermarket sunroof, I hate the floating headliner and plan to be fabricating a custom fiberglass headliner in the near future. Granted, my sunroof takes up a third of the roof this skyroof will take up and a floating headliner may be an easy and clean alternative with less material "floating." Not to mention, shipping a headliner is expensive and it may be more affordable to fabricate or float a headliner.

 

Wow, this is something I wish they had offered on Fits to start with. moon/sunroofs

 

Rooivalk, since they sell the skyroof in your country, your Honda dealer should have access to part #s and diagrams. Can you give me the email address for your dealer's parts department?

 

Wow, this is ambitious. Without know what is involved with a project like this, you have one chance to get it right. What if you find yourself a shell at the junk yard? Practise on it to get the exact measurements and know what you are dealing with once you start cutting. Kinda hard to sell a car with a big hole on the roof.

 

Nice find, you got a pair!

 

I'm trying to complete the parts list of what I'll need to do a factory install, and I'm trying to make sure I get all the little bits in. Building on Stark's suggestions above, and I'm trying to figure out if I need these pieces, which look like gaskets. Here is my final parts list, please advise if you think it's correct.

Picture #1 (b_49_20)

#7, roof panel

Picture #2 (b_38_10)

#5 , Gasket? I cannot tell if this is on my sunroof or not.
#10, Gasket? I cannot tell if this is on my sunroof or not.
#11, Gasket? I cannot tell if this is on my sunroof or not.

Picture #3 (b_52_20)

#1, Gasket? I cannot tell if this is on my sunroof or not.
#3, Gasket? I cannot tell if this is on my sunroof or not.
#4, Gasket? I cannot tell if this is on my sunroof or not.
#5, ? no idea what this is

Picture #4 (b_38_20)

I think I have all of this.

Picture #5 (b_38)

#2 is the headliner, but it is quite expensive. I am planning to float it per Stark's suggestion.

Can I get some feedback? I'm worried about: the gaskets, I see no wiring harnesses in these diagrams, and are there any special structural support elements I am ignoring? IF you can get me the associated parts #'s for these parts, I would be VERY grateful. These JDM part #s are harder to find than hen's teeth!

 

I think you aren't going to be completely sure what else you'll need until you get the skyroof unpacked in front of you. I'll try to help out a little more here.

Picture #2:
The part #5 has a #7 under it, perhaps signifying that this part is on either side left/right (#5/#7) of the assembly. That said, I think #5/7 may either be a mounting bracket or a component of the skyroof's sunshade track assembly. #11 may simply be a soft cushion for the sunshade to stop against when in the closed position. #10 appears to be an aesthetic piece as seen in Rooivalk's photo as the light grey trim piece joining the skyroof assembly with the headliner. Looks like you have #10. #5, #7, #11 you'll likely have to wait to see.

Picture #3:
I think you might need everything but the glass here. It looks to me that the glass, with the help of all of these gaskets pictured in #3, is simply mounted straight to the #7 roof panel of picture #1. If you'd like to picture this from the top down, you're looking at Picture #3 being the top, sitting on the roof panel in picture #1. You have your skyroof with just picture #1 and #3. Additionally, Picture #2, #4, #5 are the sunshade assembly.

What you've purchased, from the photos in your original post, is a pane of glass with the sunshade assembly. You'll have to pick up a roof panel to mount the glass to with the additional gaskets (unless the gaskets are included with the pane of glass because it's difficult to tell from the picture whether the glass is bare or includes gaskets) to hold the glass in place on the panel. As for the sunshade assembly, it looks like it's all there and you won't really know for sure until it is unpacked.

Also, I think I've figured out your structural support. Take a look at the black part of the sunshade assembly in this photo. You'll notice a raised "crossmember" (if you will) similar to "crossmembers" used in other Webasto sunroofs like TKZ12NO1's Panoramic Sunroof. So in addition to serving a purpose as the sunshade assembly, looks like that huge hunk of metal has a built in support beam "crossmember."

As for the wiring harness... I would assume a Webasto dealer could figure something out if it's not included with what you already bought. You're just looking to move the sunshade back and forth, not venting the roof or making use of any of the other fancy features offered with Webasto's programmed sunroof switches.

 

That was very helpful. What I'm still worried about, is that that nice thick rubber gasket that is on the headliner in Roo's pic, is part of the headliner, but it sounds like you think that part is #10. That sounds likely I suppose, either way, even fabricating a rubber gasket would be better than buying the whole $600 liner...

And as for the switch, it's the same as the Honda civic sunroof switch, which I just sourced off ebay yesterday.

On that note, I have a 2 part Accord maplight assembly with homelink and sunglasses holder I was going to install that will not be of use any more. I'll sell it for $45 shipped lower 48.

 

It's not a part of the headliner. You can see #10 here if you look closely at the edge of the opening. It's an aesthetic piece used to clean up the edge and to meet the headliner with the sunshade assembly. Headliners for cars with OEM sunroofs typically aren't anything more than a regular headliner with a hole in it. The sunroof assembly has a trim piece to create that edge. This will be convenient for floating a headliner because you can tuck the headliner cloth under that trim piece leaving no messy edges.

An example of a headliner board for OEM sunroof: image
Example of sunroof trim: image

 

Whoa! You're right! Looks like I can cross #10 off the list, Stark = da man

 

i desperately need help finding the assembly instructions. /beg

 

Good luck my friend.
At least you have that support frame section from Picture2 and the glass, so you'll have a good run at making it happen one way or another with American invention, determination, and hopes and dreams.

I have every expectation that you WILL make this work, if only so you can tell your wife that it wasn't a complete waste of money, and stand victorious before your creation as you say it.