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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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34 is low for steady 55-60 but it looks like he got 34 for the 15 mile trip, not just his instant reading at speed. Lots of room for variables in there and while it sucks, it is still better than the 33 mpg highway rating. He can improve it, but it's going to have to come from him, not the car.

Getting a ScanGauge or UltraGauge would help you see what's gong on in real time, over the short trip and over the tankful. That's a lot more helpful than just finding out after the trip.
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bzamora13
..........typically drive the car with my wife, two toddlers, and one stroller in the back............. Thanks.
BZMA, Try doing a MPG test by yourself. My MPG measurements were done with no wife, no dogs, no nothing in the car. That could be the reason for 32MPG.
Our Fit's 1.5l engine is pretty sensitive to weight.
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Thanks for all the info and replies everyone,

I haven’t changed my transmission fluid yet so still the original. I reset the trip meter after I left my house but I eased my way onto the highway, which is why I put the 98% highway. But today I did it when I was already on the highway and only got about 34.5 rather than the 34. I live in Hawthorne, which is about 5 minutes from LAX so no high elevation here. The traffic isn't too bad except for the highways during rush hour and when it is I typically stay off the roads or go the opposite direction because I would rather not deal with it. As for oil I run 5w/20 and I'm at 70%, I’ll have to try the 0w/20 soon if that’s the recommended oil. I checked the tire pressure prior to getting those numbers and I’m 38 all the way around. Looking to get new tires and will be doing an alignment when I do.

I understand that a lot of the economy driving has to do with the driver I just don’t see a reason for my MPG’s to tip to the 20-22 MPG’s when I drive average. Where I am coasting into lights and not tailgating but not doing the 50-60 mpg on the highway. The Fit is a fun car and I love to drive it around town like a go kart so definitely not looking to get rid of it, just trying to find a way to get the most out of it economically. Thanks again.

Also any tire suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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Oh Hawthorne/Torrance area?

I had a hard time breaking 32-33 when I lived there commuting to OC via surface streets. As soon as I moved to the Bay Area it jumped up about 4mpg.
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Yah that's where I am. My wife's family is from the bay area and thats typically when I get the 30-32 all Highway up the 5. But 32-33 off the highway is really nice considering I get about 24 at best on the streets
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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Check your atf level/colour. If it's low/brown, you should consider doing a change. Mpg AND shifting will both improve at the same time. 24000 miles might seem low, but I just did mine at 30 and it was really dark, almost black. Instant mpg readouts were noticeably better in all driving situations after a 2x drain fill.

If it's really nothing to do with the transmission or oil, you can also try installing a little tension spring onto your gas pedal using 2 S hooks. One end on the top of the pedal shaft and the other end on the metal bracket near the diagnostic connector. This will help a bit with your potential lead foot.

Another thing on my AT fit I've noticed is to be very mindful of maintaining a constant speed. When I accelerate, I don't really baby it. But once I've reached my desired speed, rather then just easing off the gas slightly, I let it go a lot then slowly reapply throttle.(this is easier to do with the spring installed) It may feel like you'll slow down, and you might a tiny bit, but it should have no trouble maintaining speed once you've reapplied enough throttle. Just do it gradually and gently, but not too slowly. for some reason the instant readout shows a lower number than if I just accelerated and eased gently off when at speed.
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:29 PM
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What part of CA? How flat was the terrain? No roof racks, right? Did you reset the odometer after attaining speed on the highway, or stopped before entering the highway? The burst of power accelerating to 55-60 mph at the beginning of a 15 minute course could skew the results.

Agree 34 is low for steady state 55-60 mph. Honda would not say so but I too think it should be in the high 30s assuming flat roads and no wind.

I'd check tire pressures (factory setting) and alignment.

Man I feel OP, I just sold my 1994 white civic dx hatch and I swear I got better mileage in that car, it had 230,000 miles and I averaged 33mpg 25% city/75% highway and I went a casual 75-80mph on the regular.

Now I have my 2013 Fit Sport 5MT and the average shows 32.1mpg but I feel like I am getting 35mpg freeway at 65MPH!!!!! and roughly 25mpg in city (horrible)

I can tell you one thing forsure the gearing on the fit is tighter, 65mph puts me at around 3200rpm and my Civic dx hatch at 80mph was at 3300rpm. Therefor I need to drive slower to achieve decent gas mileage. Kinda blows, ac KILLS the gas even further.
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:42 PM
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Depending on your mileage, you'll still have to wait for engine break in.

Op has an AT, so his will rev will be closer to 2500 at 65 mph on 5th. Does MT really rev that high at only 65?
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:45 PM
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you said you got aftermarket rims, but you didn't say what are your tire specs (size, make/model, and psi).

That by itself can account for lower MPG; but as noted you aren't too far from the EPA rating anyway. You have to ignore people who say oh i'm getting 5mpg or 10mpg above epa, the rating is a standard rating for a reason.
Unless you have already done the research and hypermiling practice, and you know that your driving techniques are always above the EPA regardless of the car you drive, just ignore it.

Plus what are you gas specs. Try a few tanks of chevron supreme and report if that makes a difference. Some say yes, some say no. At worse it's what $2 out of your pocket to try the experiment.
Still, E10 has like 3% less energy then E0, so you need to discount that from the EPA rating too.
 

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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by connor55
Depending on your mileage, you'll still have to wait for engine break in.

Op has an AT, so his will rev will be closer to 2500 at 65 mph on 5th. Does MT really rev that high at only 65?
2013 MT here and yes 65mph @ 3200 RPM
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by raytseng
.................but as noted you aren't too far from the EPA rating anyway..........ignore people who say oh i'm getting 5mpg or 10mpg above epa, the rating is a standard rating for a reason...................

Plus what are you gas specs. Try a few tanks of chevron supreme and report if that makes a difference. ...........
Exactly what I think. If your close to EPA ratings, that's what we paid for. Nevertheless, no harm it trying to achieve the best MPG.

rytsg has a good point on gas. I never get anything with a Ethanol blend so locally my brands are Aloha, Union 76, Tesoro, Shell.
Google for a listing of Ethanol-free gas in your area.
 
Old Mar 25, 2014 | 11:02 PM
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also, "normal" driving in so cal in my small experience is not gas friendly. You need to be driving aggressive to stay with the car ahead otherwise you're going to be cut off all the time and take forever to get anywhere(opposite of hypermiling techniques where you treat your brakes and gas like eggshells).

So just put up the extra $50 a year as cost of your driving needs; and you'd likely get worse than EPA regardless of car you picked.
 
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 10:37 AM
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$50 a year? In one month I'm up almost $100 over EPA. It's one thing to face that your conditions will only allow so much mileage, but not even trying is something else entirely.
 
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fit Charlie
...............but not even trying is something else entirely.
The mere fact that all the guys who posted on this thread are giving their 2 cents indicates that most are computing individual MPG's. All of us here, have varying reasons for owning Fits but am sure that "personal bests" on MPG is on our radar.
For sure, everyone here "tries". In my case, what topples this all is the pure fun of driving all day in a peppy puppy on regular grade. As a previous '07 FJ Cruiser Manual 6-speed owner(sold last year - my best was 22MPG pure highway at 60 mph), these savings are satisfying, whether 34 MPG or 40 MPG.
Hope to hit 40 MPG one day, though. Probably will have to be on our incoming 2015 3rd Gen Fit!!! By that time, I'll be reading posts about guys getting 55 MPG.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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Sorry, I was responding to raytseng's "don't bother" attitude.

6 weeks ago I was busting my ass to stay over 17 mpg in a complete pig. The numbers were hopeless, but I was working it furiously just to get that. I was paying enough for gas and didn't want to be paying even more just to settle for the EPA rating.

I've seen reports of Fit mileage that I believe, but don't believe I'll ever hit. I was expecting to be around 35 right now, so I'm still a little shocked by what I'm getting and can't wait to see what summer brings.
 
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 02:34 PM
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I think everything is fine with your Fit and those mpg numbers.I also have a 12 Fit sport A/T with 40K and I average 28 mpg in almost all city driving.

I stopped even caring about the mpg unless I see a drastic drop for some reason.I drive my Fit the same as I drove my supercharged 2011 5.0 Mustang sport mode most of the time and no lugging the motor.I will shift at 5K and when I do short freeway trips like a couple of miles I dont even shift into 5th gear.

I know this may sound crazy but it has worked for me.I change oil every 5-7K
Mobil 1 full syn.I will change atf at around 50K or later.I change air filter once a year.I've had good results with Kumho 4x tires in 205/50 on stock sport rims.I run 35psi cold all around.

Don't worry man just keep putting miles on that puppy and let that little 1.5 rev a bit because it likes it.
 
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 03:32 PM
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Man I feel OP, I just sold my 1994 white civic dx hatch and I swear I got better mileage in that car, it had 230,000 miles and I averaged 33mpg 25% city/75% highway and I went a casual 75-80mph on the regular.

Now I have my 2013 Fit Sport 5MT and the average shows 32.1mpg but I feel like I am getting 35mpg freeway at 65MPH!!!!! and roughly 25mpg in city (horrible)

I can tell you one thing forsure the gearing on the fit is tighter, 65mph puts me at around 3200rpm and my Civic dx hatch at 80mph was at 3300rpm. Therefor I need to drive slower to achieve decent gas mileage. Kinda blows, ac KILLS the gas even further.
Well, look at the bright side, at least it's not a death trap and gets similar mileage Don't get me wrong, I love EGs, but looking at how small they are compared to today's cars, I don't know if i'd DD one anymore.
 
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 05:40 PM
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It's funny how cars have gradually gotten larger and larger with each generation, and companies occasionally introduce smaller models to maintain a small car option. Isn't the civic supposed to be a "larger" car than the fit? my fit looks almost as big as a first gen forester when I parked beside it lol.
 
Old Mar 26, 2014 | 06:57 PM
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My eg was slightly smaller in size (length and height), it also weighed 2300lbs and had 105hp.

The 2013 fit is taller, longer and heavier (2500lbs half tank of gas) and has 117hp with ivtec.


The eg would get the same gas mileage at 80mph as the Fit gets at 65mph which kind of makes me sad, but yes I do feel safer and I also now run with A/C on half my trip although I am starting to stay away from AC due to poor gas mileage.

The fit is a great car and I have not done a full break in (only 700 miles on the clock) and Ive yet to take a full highway trip but so far MPG is suffering over the 20 yr old honda :/
 
Old Mar 27, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by connor55
It's funny how cars have gradually gotten larger and larger with each generation... Isn't the civic supposed to be a "larger" car than the fit?
I don't know what you're talking about.


 



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