Tire replacement suggestions, priority:

#1 Handeling "Safety First"
#2 All season
#3 mpg
#4 cost

I do not want the OEM's even though they are recommended by Honda as they only care about mpg and I want handling and all weather.

I've got a 2013 Honda Fir Sport

 

These are pricy but scoring a 10.
https://shop.michelinman.com/tire/mi...&zipCode=07739

 

I had them put on my 2011 Fit 2 months ago. They are okay.

 

An all-season tire is NEVER the best tire. They're a compromise for all-seasons.

The best solution is a set of tires for the summer & a set of tires for the winter.

 

Sorry to hear that : (

 

Look at the yokohama avid assents 185/55/ r16 they run 90 a tire and there is a rebate if you purchase 4

alot of the guys here seems to like them for all the reasons you prioritized. But as was mentioned tires are a compromise.

 

Generally a bad compromise. Good at nothing, maybe rain?

IDK, they might not be bad for winter tires if you lived in Kentucky, Tennessee or some other state with very moderate winters? Anywhere else forget it. Buy snow tires if you live in the snow belt and summer only tires for the summer. If you live in Arizona or Florida just buy summer tires

 

#1 would be Bridgestone RE-71R or BF Goodrich Rival S 1.5 They area an extreme summer tire only. About the stickiest 200TW tires you can currently buy.The RE-71R have been "the tire" to use for autocross for the last couple years. If you look at SCCA Solo Nationals results the majority of participants for 2015 and 2016 used the RE-71R. This year it's a toss up between the newly tweaked Rival S 1.5 and the RE-71R. Both will wear out in less than 10K for street use or quicker in autocross competition.

#2 All season = poor handling. "Safety First"

#3 MPG wil suffer with RE-71R or any sticky tire. Increased rolling resistance

#4 Cost. I think RE-71R are reasonable in cost compared to lesser performance "max performance" or "ultra performance" summer only tires. That being said, they are expensive compared to whatever crap that I wouldn't put on my kids toy wagon that most here buy from their favorite membership warehouse, or discount tire chain.


Tires are a series of compromises. You won't get something that sticks like glue in the dry, lasts 100K miles, has low NVH, will get you through the heaviest snow storm in the last 50 years and cost less then $70 each installed with lifetime balance and rotation. It's just not going to happen. Your going to have to pick what's important to you and base your choice from that.

Keep in mind most recommendations from forums are going to be based on whatever they bought. Obviously they're the best because that was what they bought. Rarely do you see "I bought them, but I don't recommend them" on forums. Go to Tire Rack website and read and/or watch their tire reviews for the tire categories you're looking at.

If you want the go to answer because you don't want to do research than buy Michelin Pilot Super Sports or whatever the newest version is or Continental Extreme Contact Sports and a set of winter tires.

Good luck

 

Thanks everyone for your input. Rob H Good info and very clear to me. So is there a recommended tire that meets that compromise? The stock tire was fine in the snow but not as good as my 94 Saturn wagon at handling. I had the Bridgestone Potenza for most of the 300K on the Saturn and they were greatly improved all year round. I know the wagon is a heaver car so I get that but the Potenza tires were impressive and I would like a similar set up. Perhaps I should be looking at an upgrade in my suspension instead? Right now I don't have room for another set of tires one for winter the other for the rest of the year but it is starting to look like I should make room for that.

I think my new priority should be all year tire that is more stable than the stock set

Suggestions on that set or should I go back with Honda's OEM and a stabilizing bar or other upgrades in suspension?
Linda

 

You can go to Tire Rack and look at user feedback ratings for many different performance categories. I tend to put more weight in those ratings when a tire has a high number of user miles like 10 million miles by those providing the feedback versus something with 100,000 miles.

 

Just get the Michelin Premier.

It will be fine in all seasons.

It will be good in none of them, but it'll be fine.

 

The OEM Firestone FR740 are junk. When it rains I'll practice inducing understeer on freeway on/off ramps with the Firestones's. Once the car starts to understeer, I'll reduce speed and/or steering input to eliminate the understeer. I know it not the smartest thing to do, just trying to keep myself amused while driving such a prosaic automobile.

You don't need to upgrade the suspension especially if you're not upgrading the tires to true summer only tires. Biggest limiting factor is usually the tires. Also the single biggest upgrade bang for buck you can do.

Stock suspension and alignment. Just a set of RE-71R's on different wheels in the photo below






If you want to spend money on something, either get a performance alignment or go to your local SCCA regions autocross school and learn car control. If you missed the school, just sign up for an autocross and tell them at registration that you're a novice and would like an instructor. They will be happy to help. You'll be way faster than any suspension mods and it might help you avoid an accident?


Lastly. Yes room can be an issue and I can understand that. I have 3 sets of wheels for my Fit. That being said, it doesn't have to be expensive.

Bought the snow tires with wheels used off Craigslist in November before any snowfall for $150 Once it snows prices increase dramatically.




The ugly Borbet wheels that are for daily driving that my OEM tires are mounted on I picked up off the forum for $60




The TR or Tire Rack house brand wheels that the RE-71R that I raced with were also purchased off the forum for $300

 

I was changing from the original OEM tires to Blizzaks in the winter. Couldn't spare the cash for another set of rims. Swapping tires on rims got expensive, so when the OEM's wore out I just left the Blizzaks on. They actually hold up pretty well and the dry handling isn't bad.

 

That is terrible advice.

And Blizzaks are trash on dry pavement.

 

Whatever

https://www.lesschwab.com/learn/arti...through-summer

 

I was surprised at how little they're wearing. Make no mistake, they aren't performance tires by any means but I've had OEM all seasons that wore and handled worse...like Goodyear Integrities.

 

How long have they been on in the spring/summer? How many miles?

Snow tires are way more expensive than getting them mounted/balanced.

 

I've bought a set of 15" aluminum Borbet wheels from a member here for $60. I've bought a set of 16" TR's or Tire Rack house brand wheels from a different member for $320. Last October before winter I bought a set of Bizzak mounted to steel wheels off Craigslist for $150. It's not too hard or too expensive to find another set of wheels for the snow tires especially steel wheels. I'd guess this time a year with a little searching a set of steel wheels probably can be had for $100 or under? All it takes is patience


$320 for bare wheels


$60 for the bare wheels. Mounted my OEM tires


$150 for wheels and tires way before anyone was thinking of buying snow tires

 

it is time to move past Michelins people. While some of their line are excellent, they no longer are worth the price given some of the competition out there. The Pirelli line is excellent now, especially the P7 Plus. To answer the OPs question, just go get a set of General Altimax RT43s. Highly rated on Tire Rack. I have them on two of my cars and eventually the third. The best time to buy them is when there are double rebates. I got $70 back from Discount Tire for a set of four and got $50 back from General at the same time, during the Memorial holiday weekend. If you live with deep snow for long periods of time, you may need to have a two sets of tires to include dedicated snow tires.

 

I bought them November 2010. I swapped them 4 times since then, the last time November 2014. They still have about one season's wear left by my reckoning (3/16" or so). At this point I have about 85K miles on the car. I have tossed it around wet corners without much slippage. The ride doesn't feel spongy filled to spec. I would like to have two sets of tires and another set of rims but I just don't have the coin these days. My next set will have to be all season. Any suggestions on decent ones? We do get a fair amount of snow.