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Brent Coe 01-02-2018 08:02 PM

Anyone ever lift their Fit?
 
2012 Fit Sport

A little backstory,

I have a developing problem where we park the car. The alley outside our garage is uphill and over the years has been filled/graded until I'm almost partially underground. Right now, I occasionally hit underneath while getting in/out.

I'm wondering if a slightly taller spring might be enough to buy enough clearance. If early CRVs were built off of Civic platforms and our cars are built off of Civic leftovers, I'm wondering if I the springs would be interchangeable.

GAFIT 01-02-2018 09:37 PM

I could be wrong, but I don't think the Fit shares a single part with a Civic. Nothing wrong with the Civic, but they don't share chassis parts, engine parts, or any other part with the Fit.

Spring and strut spacers would maybe work? I'd be concerned about upsetting the handling dynamics though.

Vash 01-02-2018 10:55 PM

I was thinking about lifting mine a little bit, but i think it would destroy the fuel economie to some degree. BUT the coilovers have room for adjustment to go higher if you are willing to go coilovers.

What GAFIT said is correct, the fit and the HRV shares, and i believe the CIVIC and CRV share like what he mentioned before

CEPAfit 01-03-2018 10:53 AM

They do make springs that actually lift the fit, and not all that long ago someone on here was selling a set. Might still be available under the for sale section. A word of caution though? A GE8 at stock ride height already seems to dislike a crosswind, if you raise it, it’ll be worse.
Just my .02. Good luck!

CEPAfit 01-03-2018 10:56 AM

The post is in the for sale section still. The springs sold but a member named TIGHT-FIT WAS USING STOCK Honda Insight springs and they lifted the fit 1.25”

degnaw 01-23-2018 03:12 PM

"Tema4x4" on eBay sells strut spacers for the front and spring spacers for the rear.

I installed universal spring spacers in the front (Mr Gasket 1285, for a 1" lift) a few weeks ago and have been driving around without any noticeable negative effects. I also ordered the 30mm rear spacers from tema4x4, which I'll report back on when I have them installed.

degnaw 01-23-2018 03:15 PM

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Some pics with the front spacer

Bassguitarist1985 01-23-2018 03:37 PM

They do have springs to lift it. keep in mind the rear, the higher you lift will cause the tow to change. For the 3rd gen GK you can use hub shims, but the 2nd generation you cannot adjust Toe.

degnaw 01-29-2018 10:29 PM

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The tema4x4 rear spacers arrived today, $42 shipped from Russia. One turned out to be 29mm and the other 31mm, but not a terribly noticeable difference.

I wasn't sure if it was supposed to go above or below the spring, but it seemed to fit most snugly at the top. The center hole is a bit larger than the hole in the stock rubber endpiece, but the outer diameter seems to fit within a lip with very little play.

Install went smoothly with a tad bit of spring compressor shenanigans (pictured).

degnaw 01-30-2018 07:17 PM

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I think I need bigger tires now. Granted, the current ones are undersized (~2% smaller diameter than stock).

Rob H 01-30-2018 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by degnaw (Post 1392048)
I think I need bigger tires now. Granted, the current ones are undersized (~2% smaller diameter than stock).


If you're going to lift your car you need a set of Sparco Terra, OZ Legend, OZ Superturismo, Method 501 or 502 wheels to complete the look

PolymathPaul 03-09-2018 06:44 PM

I'm going to try and track down more info on the Insight springs.

fujisawa 03-09-2018 06:57 PM

Now you LOOK like you have a Russian car! :D

Seriously -- some OEMs build Russia specific models which among other features have slightly taller, much more robust suspension. Russian roads, especially in spring = a bit holey.

PolymathPaul 10-03-2018 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Bassguitarist1985 (Post 1391390)
They do have springs to lift it. keep in mind the rear, the higher you lift will cause the tow to change. For the 3rd gen GK you can use hub shims, but the 2nd generation you cannot adjust Toe.

It should be mentioned that you're referring to REAR toe. Front toe in/out is adjusted through the tie-rods.

Looks like SPC explains why the rear toe on the GE8 can't be adjusted: the spindle is permanently attached to the rear beam. Bummer.

Bassguitarist1985 10-03-2018 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by PolymathPaul (Post 1414498)
It should be mentioned that you're referring to REAR toe. Front toe in/out is adjusted through the tie-rods.

Looks like SPC explains why the rear toe on the GE8 can't be adjusted: the spindle is permanently attached to the rear beam. Bummer.


Yes correct. Sorry I wasn't clear

Davis2001r6 10-05-2018 02:33 AM

Any update since you’ve been running the lift setup for almost a year?

I’m looking to take a fit on the Mongol Rally next year. Interested in whatever lift and bigger tires I can get out of it.

degnaw 10-08-2018 02:29 AM


Originally Posted by Davis2001r6 (Post 1414576)
Any update since you’ve been running the lift setup for almost a year?

I’m looking to take a fit on the Mongol Rally next year. Interested in whatever lift and bigger tires I can get out of it.

Pretty happy with my setup so far! It's been priceless on numerous roads (usually National Forest roads) with washouts or unavoidable deep potholes. I also tend to drive too fast on rough (washboarded or potholed) gravel and haven't had any issues with durability.

Davis2001r6 11-19-2018 02:36 PM

I finally got my Jazz after a few months of debate on what I should get for the Mongol Rally. I picked up a 2010 w/ 60K miles. I'm still debating a lift (either the spacers or insight springs). I like the idea of springs better, don't really like how the spacer looks. Think I'm going to bump up my tires from 175/65/15 to 195/65/15. That's an inch larger and .8 wider, so net gain will be half that.

Any alignment or tire wear issues running the spacers?

Do you have them front and rear?

Americancosworth 11-28-2018 12:52 PM

This is what you get with using just the rear 2010-2014 Honda Insight Springs on the Honda Fit.

http://imgur.com/gallery/R86kAR3

Davis2001r6 11-28-2018 01:32 PM

You doing anything in the front? Or bigger tires?

BTW- Just ordered a set of Insight Rear Springs as well as Mr Gasket 1285 Coil Spring Spacers for the front!

degnaw 11-28-2018 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Americancosworth (Post 1418172)
This is what you get with using just the rear 2010-2014 Honda Insight Springs on the Honda Fit.

http://imgur.com/gallery/R86kAR3

That looks sweet, got any more pics of the rally lights setup?

@Davis I haven't noticed any issues with alignment or tire wear so far.

knope 11-28-2018 09:40 PM

to reiterate....

Americancosworth 12-08-2018 01:12 AM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...ff9ebbeda6.jpg
Here is another better pic of the car with the lift on it. It handles very well on ice and snow now... Waiting to install the rear antisway bar as well as the front skid plate...

Davis2001r6 12-08-2018 02:15 AM

Looks like your still running stock tire sizes right? I’m planning on going 195/65/15 with mine.

My rear insight springs came in, just waiting on my Mr Gasket spacers for the front.

Please share youre skid plate design when you get around to doing it. I need to make mine as well. Should I go 1/8” steel or 1/4” aluminum? I need to find a shop that can bend it for me once I figure out how I want it.

SFL_Fit 12-09-2018 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Davis2001r6 (Post 1418898)
Looks like your still running stock tire sizes right? I’m planning on going 195/65/15 with mine.

My rear insight springs came in, just waiting on my Mr Gasket spacers for the front.

Please share youre skid plate design when you get around to doing it. I need to make mine as well. Should I go 1/8” steel or 1/4” aluminum? I need to find a shop that can bend it for me once I figure out how I want it.

please post pics. I'm following and planning on trying the insight springs on my 2017 Fit

Davis2001r6 02-26-2019 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by SFL_Fit (Post 1418967)
please post pics. I'm following and planning on trying the insight springs on my 2017 Fit

Sorry I failed to get a before and after pic. I'll post the after pic tomorrow. The rear insight springs are nice, and clearly more heavy duty. They are probably 30% thicker than stock.

Davis2001r6 02-26-2019 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by degnaw (Post 1391382)
"Tema4x4" on eBay sells strut spacers for the front and spring spacers for the rear.

I installed universal spring spacers in the front (Mr Gasket 1285, for a 1" lift) a few weeks ago and have been driving around without any noticeable negative effects. I also ordered the 30mm rear spacers from tema4x4, which I'll report back on when I have them installed.

How did you install the front spacer? Did you have to remove the whole strut? We tried just using a spring compressor without removing the strut but couldn't slide it under there. Any tips?

SFL_Fit 02-26-2019 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Davis2001r6 (Post 1424412)
Sorry I failed to get a before and after pic. I'll post the after pic tomorrow. The rear insight springs are nice, and clearly more heavy duty. They are probably 30% thicker than stock.

does the car sit higher?

Davis2001r6 02-27-2019 04:52 AM


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...8ff088f6d.jpeg
27 1/4” to the rear arch with insight springs.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...afcb975d4.jpeg
New stance. Rear springs only at this point.
Yeah it’s definitely an increase for the rear. I forgot to measure prior to, but my wheel arches are sitting at about 27 1/4”. My fronts at 25”. Can someone measure theirs to see whatnot the back sits at stock?

degnaw 02-27-2019 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Davis2001r6 (Post 1424413)
How did you install the front spacer? Did you have to remove the whole strut? We tried just using a spring compressor without removing the strut but couldn't slide it under there. Any tips?

Yes, I removed the strut and removed the spring to install the spacer. I did have to use a spring compressor to get the top of the strut back on afterwards.

Also you may have already done this, but I believe I also had to trim the spacer to give it a smaller diameter.

Davis2001r6 02-27-2019 02:49 PM

Thanks. I figured you had to actually remove it. I just ran short on time yesterday. My bolts are pretty rusted some I’m going to soak them for a week or so and try it again.

Looking at your picture I could see it was trimmed a little. I didn’t realize it was because it was too large or to help with the lower rubber gasket/silencer to seat.

PolymathPaul 03-13-2019 01:37 PM

Any updates here?



Originally Posted by Americancosworth (Post 1416371)
Spacers similar that push the spring down or that length struts. There are two that I am aware of, one is sold on eBay from Russia (look for seller Tema4x4) and another I believe is sold from spaccer.com... Pro's with this approach is that it can be cheap and you aren't changing the springs... Cons are that your not really increasing the capacity of your suspension so much as just pushing your car up...


2010-2014 Honda Insight OEM springs, they have been confirmed to fit and provide not only about 1.25" lift they also increase your carrying capacity by about 200-300lbs due to them being designed for a car that is about that amount heavier...

The part numbers for the springs are:
51401TM8A03 <= front springs
​​​​​​52441TM8A03 <= rear springs

Things I do no know but could be potentially useful: 2010-2014 Honda insight uses in effect Honda Fit suspension, now it would be interesting to see if there are any length differences for the front struts as then one could potential be able to do a 2" lift using both spacers and springs in the rear...

One could also look at doing insight springs in the rear and spacers in the front...

AmericanCosworth, how's your Insight spring lift doing? Any pictures/news on the skid plate?

Has anyone who done springs or spacers done alignment? I'm curious how the lift effects handling with the rear toe not being adjustable.

Where are we at with shocks? I'm not in love with the fact that the stock suspension is already pretty rough...do the Insight springs ride even rougher? I actually want to soften up my suspension a little bit.

Davis2001r6 03-13-2019 02:12 PM

My rears are in and running 185/65/15 tires. I didn’t like the 195’s I test fitted.

I tried the front spacers but have a strut with a seized/stripped hex bolt. So new strut assemblies are in order. Should have it in within 2 weeks.

I like the ride better already. It just feels more solid, fully in a good way though. I’ll update when the fronts come in.

By by the way these look better than the spacer lift, just wish they weren’t this much and sold them as front only.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F283372281775


PolymathPaul 03-13-2019 03:14 PM

Honestly I'd sooner cut a coil off the Insight springs than run 30mm rubber spacers that cost $100/pair.

My biggest worry about the Insight springs is an increase in spring rate, making the already stiff Fit very harsh without proper shocks. Hence why I wonder what kind of shock options are out there, especially for the Insight.

degnaw 03-15-2019 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Davis2001r6 (Post 1425193)

They stole my photo for the eBay listing LOL

The fronts only are available from tema4x4: https://tema4x4.ru/catalog/prostavki...oliuretan.html
It's on eBay as well, but quite a bit more expensive.

mark2008 09-15-2019 11:06 PM

Hi all. New to the forum here hope its ok to post on an old thread.

I’ve had a 2008 Fit since it was new. We recently bought a new car but were not offered much for the trade-in, so decided to keep the Fit as sort of a project car. The first thing I want to do is lift it a bit to increase the ground clearance. This thread has been helpful but I have a few questions.

Right now my thinking is to use 1 inch coil spacers all around then replace the tires with 195/65/15s. One question I have is will the Mr Gasket 1285 spacers work in the front and rear? As far as I can tell they should work in the rear but I see some of you used either the tema4x4 product or longer springs instead. I also like the Spaccer product but I’m not sure if it is worth the high cost.

Davis2001r6, what was it that you did not like about the 195/65/15s?

Thanks for your help.

Davis2001r6 09-16-2019 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by mark2008 (Post 1436022)
Hi all. New to the forum here hope its ok to post on an old thread.

I’ve had a 2008 Fit since it was new. We recently bought a new car but were not offered much for the trade-in, so decided to keep the Fit as sort of a project car. The first thing I want to do is lift it a bit to increase the ground clearance. This thread has been helpful but I have a few questions.

Right now my thinking is to use 1 inch coil spacers all around then replace the tires with 195/65/15s. One question I have is will the Mr Gasket 1285 spacers work in the front and rear? As far as I can tell they should work in the rear but I see some of you used either the tema4x4 product or longer springs instead. I also like the Spaccer product but I’m not sure if it is worth the high cost.

Davis2001r6, what was it that you did not like about the 195/65/15s?

Thanks for your help.

I ended up using Honda Insight springs on the back (highly recommend) and the eBay spacer from tema4x4 for the front.

The Mr Gasket spacers would work ok in the back, I just finished the Mongol Rally and a few teams were using them, many teams also went through a few sets of them over 2 months of hard use so I wouldn’t go that route seeing them now.

I could never ever get my front struts disassembled (old or new), so I couldn’t try them for the front like I originally wanted. But I’m extremely happy how the Tema 4x4 ones worked out.

As for the 196/65/15’s. I have the 1.2 liter engine (UK model), it couldn’t maintain speed in 5th gear unless I was doing 75+. Any incline at all I’d be downshifting as well.

My car was also previosuly wrecked on the rigt side, so it sits a 1/2” lower for the front right, that half inch also made the 195’s rub.

I had zero problems with the 185’s over the worst imaginable terrain driving to Mongolia.

Davis2001r6 09-16-2019 06:15 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...dae220eec.jpeg
Desert in Turkmenistan
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...c7f8b29b1.jpeg
Cappadocia Turkey
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...92aa66f5b.jpeg
D-915 in Turkey, once named the most dangerous road in the road by a random magazine. Great views but not deadly.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...479522050.jpeg
Camping near Afghan border in Tajikistan. The great car has Mr gasket spacers.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...583fcefef.jpeg
Afghan border with Tajikistan.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...4d50a54ca.jpeg
Some pics along the Mongol Rally

julianachos 09-16-2019 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Davis2001r6 (Post 1436028)

Just followed you on Instagram! So glad to see you made it through to the end!!

Ben Brown 09-25-2019 12:46 PM

How I lifted my 2013 Fit
 
My 2013 base model Fit scrapes a little going across a creek on a concrete ford of my driveway. My new tires are oversize 195/65R-15 (up two sizes). There is no rubbing of them on the car at either front or rear. I put the first pair on the rear. I hope the second pair on the front will solve the scrape, because it will raise the car one inch. Side benefits are lower rpm on the interstate, higher margin for load capacity, and it is a more substantial tire.


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