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New member here. Got my 2013 base MT less than a week ago and already love it. I have Blizzak WS90s on the stock 15s, and just picked up a set of used Enkei RPF1s in 16x7. Currently looking at my performance tire options and I'm hoping you can help me out!
I'm leaning towards the Conti DWS 06 in 205/50-16 size because its the closest match in size. Is that too much tire for the car? I don't plan on adding any more power, just some handling improvement. Or since I have snow tires, should I get something more aggressive like the Firestone Indy 500 (same price as the DWS, but is it too much tire?).
I'm also considering in going with either a 195/50 or 195/55 option, but neither is as close a match as the 205/50; also the tire options are more limited. The one benefit is that a 195 tire is lighter than a 205 equivalent by about 2lbs!
I've searched through some old threads on the subject but some of them are pretty dated. Hoping current members have more info and feedback on tires in both options. Thanks in advance!
New member here. Got my 2013 base MT less than a week ago and already love it. I have Blizzak WS90s on the stock 15s, and just picked up a set of used Enkei RPF1s in 16x7. Currently looking at my performance tire options and I'm hoping you can help me out!
I'm leaning towards the Conti DWS 06 in 205/50-16 size because its the closest match in size. Is that too much tire for the car? I don't plan on adding any more power, just some handling improvement. Or since I have snow tires, should I get something more aggressive like the Firestone Indy 500 (same price as the DWS, but is it too much tire?).
I'm also considering in going with either a 195/50 or 195/55 option, but neither is as close a match as the 205/50; also the tire options are more limited. The one benefit is that a 195 tire is lighter than a 205 equivalent by about 2lbs!
I've searched through some old threads on the subject but some of them are pretty dated. Hoping current members have more info and feedback on tires in both options. Thanks in advance!
Peter
While I don't own a GE8, I'd wholeheartedly recommend the 195
Not only will it get slightly better fuel economy, but those small weight savings will equate to slightly better fuel economy, softer ride, better acceleration time, and lower NVH in the car.
A test was done several years back on a VW golf where they tried all wheel and tire combinations from 15 to 19 inch.
Check out the link below, I'm sure you'll be as amazed as I was.
As a result, the largest wheels I have on my cars are 15 inches. https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...-wheels-tires/
They were used on the 16x6.5 accessory wheels for second and third generation Fits as they are identical in diameter to the standard 185/55R16s. Just be mindful of wheel width and offset if you choose to run aftermarket wheels.
Yes but I don’t remember how much. It’s been 3 years since I had my Fit.
The 205’s were my summer wheels so they were high performance summer tires and the wheels I had them mounted too were also very heavy compared to the OEM sport wheels. I prioritized handling over MPG (minus the heavy wheels lol).
I don’t think much of the MPG decrease came from the tire width mostly the other stuff.
They were used on the 16x6.5 accessory wheels for second and third generation Fits as they are identical in diameter to the standard 185/55R16s. Just be mindful of wheel width and offset if you choose to run aftermarket wheels.
Not even true. The OE accessory wheels used the same size tire as the stock Fit. Honda never ran 205's on any Fit. Way too wide for max MPG's and being a commuter car. The accessory wheel was just another style option. the tire size didn't change at all.
50's vs 55's. They could never be identical, that math doesn't add up nor do the specs. You cluster will be off when going from a 55 to a 50 series.
Not even true. The OE accessory wheels used the same size tire as the stock Fit. Honda never ran 205's on any Fit. Way too wide for max MPG's and being a commuter car.
Ya working for Honda we never saw 205's on any stock Fit. Ever. Honda wouldn't offer tire sizes that change the speedometer speed at all. That clearly voids their own dealership warranties or creates problems for a customer to come back and complain about it later.
Even when wheel upgrading Honda uses the exact same tire size and what came from Honda. 50's vs 55's are clearly different in sidewall size. And also "about the same" is "NOT exactly the same". And for a dealership they won't gamble on that. They will just tell you to upgrade it on your own without them.
Not even true. The OE accessory wheels used the same size tire as the stock Fit. Honda never ran 205's on any Fit. Way too wide for max MPG's and being a commuter car. The accessory wheel was just another style option. the tire size didn't change at all.
50's vs 55's. They could never be identical, that math doesn't add up nor do the specs. You cluster will be off when going from a 55 to a 50 series.
@NWCH Like usual, you're misinformed... Please do your research.
Honda used a 205/50R16 Continental Sport Contact 2 (Part number 42751-CTL-510) as the accessory tire size on the 16x6.5 Mugen XJ wheel (Part number 42753-XTK-000) for the GE8. Since the GE8 and GK5 share the same 185/55R16 tire sizes the 205/50R16 falls right into spec (be it 0.2 of an inch different in O.D. and approximately 20mm wider in width)
Link below of the Mugen XJ that I'm referencing used on Mugen GE8s and offered as accessory wheels for 2009 and 2010 model years.
I'm not misinformed, you are just not clear yourself. The Mugen XJ is the only exception because of it's wider rim size. You never said that. Even though it was an optional part it wasn't known as an accessory wheel. These are the actual dealer optional accessory 7 spoke wheels, and they only used 195's. The ones the average person upgraded to.
And I know all about the Mugen XJ's. I have 3 sets sitting here to go with my Mugen aero kits. Mugen parts had their own catalog and was not offered at all dealerships. They were sold in very small numbers and not many people bought them. So ya...
Regardless, 205 is too much tire for a 10 year old econo-box with maybe 100hp on a good day.
Eh... That's subject to personal opinion. Honda did similar with the CR-Z for the Mugen and HPD packages going from the 195/55R16 to 205/45R17s on Mugen cars and 215/40R18s on HPD cars. Fuel economy took a slight dip but it wasn't absurd.
Originally Posted by NWCH
I'm not misinformed, you are just not clear yourself. The Mugen XJ is the only exception because of it's wider rim size. You never said that. Even though it was an optional part it wasn't known as an accessory wheel. These are the actual dealer optional accessory 7 spoke wheels, and they only used 195's. The ones the average person upgraded to.
And I know all about the Mugen XJ's. I have 3 sets sitting here to go with my Mugen aero kits. Mugen parts had their own catalog and was not offered at all dealerships. They were sold in very small numbers and not many people bought them. So ya...
In terms of all available accessory wheels solely for the GE, I'll agree that the Mugen XJ was the well known oddball with its 6.5 inch width.. BUT it could be used with either a 205/50 or 185/55 (as its just at the cusp of the safe range for most tire manufacturers width wise) as per Honda. The only other 205 option being used on the GD's HFP but with a 205/45R16. So in retrospect to one of your prior comments (attached below the first image), there were indeed two optional wheel and tire packages during the Fit's entire run that featured a 205 tire. Whether or not someone ran that tire size is another story all together.
Here's an interesting the kicker though...Those very same 16 inch 7 spoke aluminum alloys you posted a picture of are actually 6.5 inches wide (P/Ns 08W16-TK6-100 and 08W16-TK6-101) as well BUT there were recommended to be ran with 185/55s not 195s nor 205s as per Honda. Which is also a bit contradictory despite the evidence found for the Mugen XJ with identical dimensions but again, the 185 is still in its safe range to be used on this wheel.
Now, I'll openly admit this little tidbit as I've never paid attention to the 7 spoke wheel since they never appealed to me as far as the entire collection of GE wheels go. Nor was I even taking it in consideration with my previous comment as I too was under the impression that it was a 6 inch wide wheel as well... but I did do some digging to verify. I suppose we both learned a little something on that particular one.
Also regardless of moniker used, they (the Mugen XJ, HFP, HPD, etc.) still fall under the blanket term of an accessory or optional wheel and are all grouped in the same accessory section of Honda's online catalog as the none "premium" line, "tier", "trim", etc. of accessories even if they have their specific Mugen/HFP/HPD specific booklets/pamphlets.
That's about like not even considering a JCW accessory wheel as a MINI's accessory wheel in a similar scenario.
Originally Posted by NWCH
Ya working for Honda we never saw 205's on any stock Fit. Ever. Honda wouldn't offer tire sizes that change the speedometer speed at all. That clearly voids their own dealership warranties or creates problems for a customer to come back and complain about it later.
Even when wheel upgrading Honda uses the exact same tire size and what came from Honda. 50's vs 55's are clearly different in sidewall size. And also "about the same" is "NOT exactly the same". And for a dealership they won't gamble on that. They will just tell you to upgrade it on your own without them.
I quoted this very comment here to touch back on the subject of 195s... neither the 195/50 nor 195/55 was listed an OEA tire endorsed by Honda for the Fit that exact reason you mentioned. Again, in the case of 16 inch wheels was just the 205/50R16s as the only Original Equipment Alternative size due to being within 0.2 of an inch in outside diameter which was pretty much negligible in terms of affecting speedometer accuracy. With that said though, I will agree that 195s of either aforementioned sizes work fine; however, that recommendation was often from tire suppliers such as Tire Rack, Discount Tire, etc. especially back in 2008/2009 when it was fairly slim pickings to find a 185/55R16. Nowadays of course, the tire market has changed and consumers have a much larger selection to choose from in the OEM size.
