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Goettler 07-27-2012 03:35 PM

Stretching Tires/Offset/Wide wheels
 
I have some things I want to get out in the open so some of the experienced members on the board can help me out.

I'm noticing that a lot of guys run higher offset wheels (40-50) with a 7 inch wide wheel and 205 or 215 tires.

Then, some guys will say they stretch their tires and put a 195 on a 7, but I don't see any stretch.

This is the 215/35/18 on my 18x9 I daily'd, and this is just what I viewed as a mild stretch.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...77427131_n.jpghttps://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...87835206_n.jpg


and you can really see the stretch in this head on shot

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8024/7...da9d6e49_c.jpg

So my question is, why wouldn't we be able to run a 8 or 9 inch wide wheel with a lower offset if we stretched the tires like my above picture?

Everyone seems to be so conservative with their offsets, so I'm trying to get a feel for the guys with wide wheels.

FittedOnEm 07-27-2012 03:48 PM

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Because not many Fit people are into stance.
The only issue I see is having camber in the rear, but with proper specs it won't look retarded. The most aggressive I've seen is a black Fit from Hawaii, although I can't find the pictures I had of it right now.

Other than that...
17x8 et30 wrapped in 205/40's
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8151/7...a3975657_o.jpg

http://blog.beangarage.com/wp-conten...cfb63af1_b.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6...3b269b86_b.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...714resized.jpg

16x8 et38 wrapped in 205/40s (what I plan on running)
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16x8 et20 wrapped in 205/40s
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7124/7...4b3b32edec.jpg

You can't get too aggressive with the Fit. As you can see, 16x8 +20 is already flush.

avocado123 07-27-2012 03:55 PM

As FittedOnEm stated, different strokes for different folks

Goettler 07-27-2012 03:57 PM

I saw the 17x8 +30 a while back and I like it a lot, but I'm not sure if 17s are gonna be too big.

But most aggressive guys on here run 16x8 et30ish I take it then?

Any more info on the blue raspberry with 16x8 et20? I think that looks pretty nice.


Originally Posted by avocado123 (Post 1118753)
As FittedOnEm stated, different strokes for different folks

I just see so much talk about stretching tires, trying to run wider wheels with lower offset, how to stop rubbing, etc. and haven't seen any stretched tires, wide wheels, or anyone that low. haha

joey_fits 07-27-2012 03:58 PM

There's a few threads dedicated to low offset rims on our cars. Entire websites on stretching tires. Answer, you are able to and as for not many fits into stance or hellaflush well that sounds silly.

Wanderer. 07-27-2012 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Goettler (Post 1118748)
I have some things I want to get out in the open so some of the experienced members on the board can help me out.

I'm noticing that a lot of guys run higher offset wheels (40-50) with a 7 inch wide wheel and 205 or 215 tires.

Everyone seems to be so conservative with their offsets, so I'm trying to get a feel for the guys with wide wheels.

Because some people are more interested in getting the widest tire possible under the fender than stance/stretch/poke.

I find it interesting that it used to be the traditional fitment guys used to ask why people were stretching tires and now I see fitment guys asking why people are doing things the traditional way. It's a crazy world.

FittedOnEm 07-27-2012 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Goettler (Post 1118755)
Any more info on the blue raspberry with 16x8 et20? I think that looks pretty nice.

I don't have anymore pics of it, that's the only one he posted in his thread.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...et-w-pics.html
I haven't really seen anyone go further than an 8. The blue raspberry is the first one I've seen that has gone low enough to pull off the +20.

More of the 16x8 +38, since I love how it sits:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/7...6411c68a_z.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5345/6...6099f1ed_z.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/7...76106d32_z.jpg
(Same RPF1's as on the black one, just new owner)


Originally Posted by joey_fits (Post 1118757)
There's a few threads dedicated to low offset rims on our cars. Entire websites on stretching tires. Answer, you are able to and as for not many fits into stance or hellaflush well that sounds silly.

Show me more stanced Fits then!

Goettler 07-27-2012 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by joey_fits (Post 1118757)
There's a few threads dedicated to low offset rims on our cars. Entire websites on stretching tires. Answer, you are able to and as for not many fits into stance or hellaflush well that sounds silly.

Yes, I am very familiar with Stanceworks and websites like that, very active on them. Just only found 1 fit on there and its a GD so ehhhh.... haha


Originally Posted by Wanderer. (Post 1118759)
Because some people are more interested in getting the widest tire possible under the fender than stance/stretch/poke.

I find it interesting that it used to be the traditional fitment guys used to ask why people were stretching tires and now I see fitment guys asking why people are doing things the traditional way. It's a crazy world.

I'm not asking why people aren't stretching tires, I'm just looking at a incredibly slow car with people trying to get wider wheels on them, so I assume its aesthetic and not tracking it.

I tracked that BMW with 350hp and stretched tires and I still felt I was going too slow, haha.


Originally Posted by FittedOnEm (Post 1118763)
I don't have anymore pics of it, that's the only one he posted in his thread.
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-...et-w-pics.html
I haven't really seen anyone go further than an 8. The blue raspberry is the first one I've seen that has gone low enough to pull off the +20.

More of the 16x8 +38, since I love how it sits:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7057/7...6411c68a_z.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5345/6...6099f1ed_z.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/7...76106d32_z.jpg
(Same RPF1's as on the black one, just new owner)



Show me more stanced Fits then!

That looks like a great conservative fitment, makes me want those 16x8 +20s even more. Haha.

eurobeaner 07-27-2012 06:21 PM

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17x8.25 +25. 205/40/17 falken 512's

pretty happy overall. may go .5" lower all around, dont think i have enough room for an inch lower. so far, 0 rubbing. awesome.

(ps, no rain for 4 months = dead as fuck grass)
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Goettler 07-27-2012 10:23 PM

What suspension are you running?

LongGrain 07-27-2012 11:22 PM

am I the only one who thinks a 205 on an 8j isnt even really a stretch? 205 treadwidth is over 8" (barely, but still over)

I run a 185 on all of my 8j wheels. I'm picking up a set of 8j/9j stagger soon and plan on running the same 185's on both of them.

not a fit, but whatever. 185/60r14 on 14x8

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...48426488_n.jpg

mike410b 07-27-2012 11:23 PM

You don't see anyone that low? Look up member Raaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy. Your BMW isn't even low you joker; from the looks of it my foot could easily fit beneath the bumper.

joey_fits 07-28-2012 02:04 AM

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do these not count cause in two searches I've found over20 pages of images

Goettler 07-28-2012 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by LongGrain (Post 1118881)
am I the only one who thinks a 205 on an 8j isnt even really a stretch? 205 treadwidth is over 8" (barely, but still over)

I run a 185 on all of my 8j wheels. I'm picking up a set of 8j/9j stagger soon and plan on running the same 185's on both of them.

Exactly, 205 on an 8 isn't much of a stretch.



Originally Posted by mike410b (Post 1118882)
You don't see anyone that low? Look up member Raaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy. Your BMW isn't even low you joker; from the looks of it my foot could easily fit beneath the bumper.

This guy. Hahahahaha.

Clearance:
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...32747310_n.jpg

avocado123 07-28-2012 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Goettler (Post 1118755)
haven't seen any stretched tires, wide wheels, or anyone that low. haha

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...lz-d4dg74w.jpg

joey_fits 07-28-2012 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Goettler (Post 1118937)

Dang breh that' low tho....

joey_fits 07-28-2012 12:05 PM

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Cannibeat,underground motoring,speedhunters,vipstylecars,tyrestretch....

eurobeaner 07-28-2012 07:45 PM

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This is my 205 on a 8.25

It's a mild stretch... The falken 512's run skinny

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eurobeaner 07-28-2012 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Goettler (Post 1118870)
What suspension are you running?

The new t1r basic coilovers

Speedlimitz 07-28-2012 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by eurobeaner (Post 1119045)
The new t1r basic coilovers

Any fender mods?


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