2019 lx vs sport manual?
#2
Came from a '07 GD base auto to a `15 GK base LX manual. Still miss the GD (which still going strong and driven daily by our niece back on the islands), but the 6 spd. remains a joy to drive over an auto CVT.
If you find one, get it. GK may be the last North American Fit equipped with a manual.
Sport looks sharp with the additional body trim. That would be my choice as fewer of them are being made.
Happy shopping n post your potential purchase.
If you find one, get it. GK may be the last North American Fit equipped with a manual.
Sport looks sharp with the additional body trim. That would be my choice as fewer of them are being made.
Happy shopping n post your potential purchase.
Last edited by ROTTBOY; 03-22-2019 at 12:07 PM.
#3
I believe the Sport gets 16" black wheels and a small bump in horsepower, maybe 10 or so over the base model? Not much that you'd notice, but it may just come down to what you prefer the looks and price of! Good luck!
CORRECTION on HP:
Allow me to post the power specs:
MT: 130 @ 6600 CVT: 128 @ 6600
Engine output is the same for all models depending on tranny.
Thanks - rttby
CORRECTION on HP:
Allow me to post the power specs:
MT: 130 @ 6600 CVT: 128 @ 6600
Engine output is the same for all models depending on tranny.
Thanks - rttby
Last edited by ROTTBOY; 03-22-2019 at 12:06 PM.
#4
Thanks.
I know about the wheels, I was wondering about the difference in the suspension, but now I did some research and noticed the 2019 fits have direct fuel injection which maybe a deal breaker.
I know about the wheels, I was wondering about the difference in the suspension, but now I did some research and noticed the 2019 fits have direct fuel injection which maybe a deal breaker.
#5
Yes, prepare for carbon build-up unless you want catch cans or outright pcv delete. My suspension is boaty after only 3 years and 84k miles but still gets the job done. 2015 base here. The engines in these fits are actually very well made. Early 2015's had injectors throwing occasional misfires but honda fixed that with a redesign and new fuel pipe. Also you might be getting raspy rattles on cold startups (well discussed on this forum) but the VTC was redesigned as well... so go ahead and buy your problem-free 2019 model year. Since you are getting the manual, get ready for high rpm at hwy speeds in 6th gear. I owned the 6MT for 3 years and I have the CVT now ... and I've got to tell you .... I love the CVT and I was a die hard fan of the manual.
#7
ThanksQuote. .........but now I did some research and noticed the 2019 fits have direct fuel injection which maybe a deal breaker.
#8
Thanks for the reply,
Are you experiencing problems with carbon buildup on you 2015? You have the lx do you know if the sport has different suspension? I am happy with my 2013 sport as far as suspension.
Are you experiencing problems with carbon buildup on you 2015? You have the lx do you know if the sport has different suspension? I am happy with my 2013 sport as far as suspension.
#10
That doesn't bother me, in fact I like that it has 15" tires that are cheaper to replace.
#12
#13
I forgot the post but someone had the check engine light come on on this forum and ultimately replaced injectors to get it fixed himself. He scoped out the intake and yes, there was carbon build up but it did not seem to be the cause of misfires during diagnosis. He had purchased the car used with over 60k miles. I really think this engine works well even with the carbon buildup on the intake valves.
2) What is the solution for the carbon buildup (besides oil cans and PCV disconnect)?
3) Is carbon buildup on these engines something that you can avoid if you regularly run through the gears at redline (the famous "Italian Tune-Up")?
I made a point of replacing my '08 Fit with a new '13 Fit because I did not want direct injection. While I haven't followed the issue recently, I am not aware that any manufacturer using direct injection has resolved the carbon buildup problem. Toyota thought they were going to get around it in the FR-S by using a dual injection system (direct injection and port injection). As far as I know, that's still as dumb an idea as it sounds.
#14
I can pitch in on 2 and 3: surgery is a recommended solution for carbon build up aka nutshells/walnut shells blast. The italian tuneup will simply not fix anything on a fundamental level; carbon will build up just the same but maybe it will help out with preventing larger chunks from forming on the valves.
#15
Next time you're at your dealership ask the service people how many cases of carboned up valves which need action they are seeing on Fit engines.
Last edited by woof; 03-24-2019 at 12:38 PM.
#16
I'm dying of laughter!
#17
Carbon buildup
Yes, it's over in the special section where other fanciful topics being discussed are "Care and feeding of your unicorn" and "How big is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?". There are a lot of Fits out there with mileage steadily rising and thus far virtually no reports of carbon buildup being a problem so far on the Fits. Now if you'll excuse me I have to go feed my unicorn.
As CommanderSlug mentions recognize that at some point in time you might need to get the walnut shell blasting done to clean the valves off if the valve buildup becomes a problem.
It has been suggested that highway driving which results in the engine - and valves - running hotter will reduce carbon build up. Conversely a lot of slow speed city driving will probably increase it. I wouldn't worry about it. You drive the way you have to and simply accept the fact that if carbon becomes a problem, like any other car problem, you'll deal with it when - and if - it happens.
Next time you're at your dealership ask the service people how many cases of carboned up valves which need action they are seeing on Fit engines.
As CommanderSlug mentions recognize that at some point in time you might need to get the walnut shell blasting done to clean the valves off if the valve buildup becomes a problem.
It has been suggested that highway driving which results in the engine - and valves - running hotter will reduce carbon build up. Conversely a lot of slow speed city driving will probably increase it. I wouldn't worry about it. You drive the way you have to and simply accept the fact that if carbon becomes a problem, like any other car problem, you'll deal with it when - and if - it happens.
Next time you're at your dealership ask the service people how many cases of carboned up valves which need action they are seeing on Fit engines.
#18
Ditto on Woof's comment. To sum up, the Fit Sport is an EX w/o the sunroof and black wheels (alloy?), no hp increase, no suspension improvements. It is a trim package only. Go to the Honda website to get details. Seen some speculation on the 2020 … 1 liter turbo engine … YUCK!
#20
Lug nuts
You can always replace the silver with black, easily obtainable from the dealer or Amazon/online suppliers like H&A who have discounted Honda accessories.