We bought a 15 new, it’s been my least favorite Honda that we’ve owned with the highest amount of maintenance needed. About 135k on her now.
well, the injectors need replaced and I really don’t want to shell out the cost. But of course I’ll buy OE if it’s the only way to go.
has anyone tried or had success using an aftermarket injector?
this is just stock, so no big turbos or forced air.
thanks a lot and I look forward to your insight

 

Sorry about the poll, It made sense at 5:30 in the morning when I was barely awake. But I’d love to hear anything about aftermarket injectors

 

While I agree that these Honda's aren't as reliable as the old Honda products, it's still a joy to own compared to the Euro cars (VW, BMW etc) that I've owned before it.

You sure it's not covered under your extended warranty?
Mine were done prior to my purchase in Oct 2020.

 

Ive had a few euros as well. Always a Honda fan and vintage Honda motorcycle enthusiast. But it’s definitely not soichiros company any longer.
extended warranty was only until 80 ish thousand through the dealership. A week after that the push button start failed. A month later the starter, etc. wish I could find a brand new 03 civic!

 

Stick with OEM, even if there is an option. Honda has made some design changes. Your Model Year and a few up seem to have more issues. Injectors and rail system are peanuts for these tiny motors compared to my truck. $700 a piece x6.
These DI engines are amazing in the bowels of winter for a quick reliable start.
Our Subaru and this Honda has impressed me at -48.

 

-48 is a bit chilly. Doesn’t get near that cold around here. But at -5 my well worn 1947 carburetor and points engine fires up no problem and runs great. So although I’m positive the direct injection does have its benefits (although this particular set up is flawed/and cheaply designed) the ice cold reality is my wife will be driving the 47 for a bit.
back ordered part to do the job on the fit! Fuel joint pipe. No lead time. So Monday I’ll try to talk with the powers that be and maybe, hopefully get on a priority list to receive said part. Fingers crossed I don’t have to sit on this thing for months. As I’m seriously debating another vehicle purchase, and selling the fit after repaired. This car has left me with no brand loyalty. Well, to the modern end. I’ll always be a fan of “the old man” Honda.

 

Ironically enough, I think Honda still makes more cars using port-injection only engine than other companies.
Toyota has mostly gone to dual injection stuff, although some of the base model and hybrids appear to still use port-injection only engines, like 1ZZ-FE.
It's hard to find information these days with TOO MUCH information.

HR-V is still using R18 with port-injection only. I think R-series engines are derived from D-series engines. I always wondered if one of these could be "fit"ted into a Fit.
And Civics with naturally aspirated 2.0L (K20C) are port-injection only.

Personally, if I were buying a car right now, it'd be a Civic Hatchback (not Type-R) with 2-liter engine and manual transmission.

 

yup! And on the civics, my sister got one, it’s very small inside for such a large “small” car. And the cockpit is just not well thought out. Very fashion over function sadly.
the electric brakes and steering leave a lot to be desired as well.
I guess I’m getting old!

 

If I read this right you have over 100 and something thousand miles and you’re complaining about a repair for a car that’s only $20,000 off the shelf. You can’t buy a decent side by side for that!
In 100,000 miles on your old carbureted motor and points/plugs, tell me what issues you had?
Did it even get that far?
This is the set up that was cheaply designed BUT high tech for its time!
I ’ll take this new little Fit over my old Datsun 510 or Volkswagen beetle any day to take across the country.
This forum is depressing.

 

Nah my comment was regarding cold weather starts/ direct injection that’s all.
don’t be depressed. I’ll fix it eventually

 

I'd go with the Hondas. I still have no idea why a person has to purchase the pipe (fuel rail). Maybe the injector orings get stuck in the pipe. Only thing I could guess... I wanted to go with the civic L15B7 injectors but they have a different dwell time which ktuner said could not be modified. Now that I've purchased a stand alone computer, I can go to the civic injectors. There are now port injector conversions available in Asia but I would never do that with the pistons being cut to support a DI charge.

 

OE is definitely the way to go, doesn’t seem to be any other reliable sources anyhow.
the system runs in excess of 2000psi! So the pipe is prone to leak if you undo it.
Supposedly, I have one coming from Japan… fingers crossed.

 

From what I recall Honda simply said that the old fuel pipe was not compatible with the new fuel injectors and had to be replaced. As usual they gave no details.

 

i looked it , they do have different part numbers

 

the last three digits changed, meaning a superseded part with an update, but should still be compatible.
at least that’s how they do it with bike parts. If the center numbers change, there is incompatibility. If I could find an old design I’d buy it. I’m stuck and had to buy another car.
im going to try and physically clean the injectors the old school way and see if it clears the code. Then I’ll trade it to Honda.
sad.

 

You used to be able to send in your injectors to a place that would "balance and flow" your injectors. That is for port injection. I haven't seen anybody offer that service for direct injection...

 

i think the direct injection pieces are a different technology as they are higher pressure , maybe they aren't really repairable

 

way higher pressure! And it says they are not “cleanable” and must be replaced. But nothing to lose since the car is disabled anyhow. I’m hoping a diesel place will get back in touch. The diesels have had this type of injection forever and do have the means to clean them.
they definitely don’t like the word “Honda” though.
a buddy recently started a job at an injection repair/rebuild shop, so hopefully I can get an in.