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Old Apr 16, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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Expected tire life

I’m still running the original Firestones on my 2017 Fit. Current mileage is about 24k and the wear bars are now visible, but looks like plenty of tread left. What kind of mileage should I expect from these tires? I’m in SoCal so snow and (sadly) rain are not an issue.

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Old Apr 16, 2022 | 03:38 PM
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I got rid of mine in the mid thirties because I didn't like them. But I was rotating five tires.
If your wear bars are visible you don't have a lot of useful tread left, because it does rain in SoCal.
 
Old Apr 16, 2022 | 03:43 PM
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My OEM Bridgestones we're shot at 28k. Replacement Michelina's about the same.
 
Old Apr 17, 2022 | 12:15 PM
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If you get 30,000 miles on the factory tires, consider yourself lucky.
 
Old Apr 17, 2022 | 05:34 PM
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It's been 6 years in the SoCal sun. What's the condition of the rubber? Any cracks?
 
Old Apr 18, 2022 | 10:15 AM
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I have 2017 Fit LX CVT, single person in the car, rear seats removed, replaced OEM Firestone 10/9/2019 at 44,336, mostly highway miles. Replaced them with 4 Sentury 185/60 R15 84H BSW that lasted until 11/18/2021 at 92,441 with another set of Sentury. Now, the Fit has nearly 104K miles, going stronger each day.
 

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Old Apr 18, 2022 | 04:29 PM
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40K+ twice? That’s impressive. Congrats.

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Old Apr 18, 2022 | 04:45 PM
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What is the tire rotation pattern for our cars, and what is the torque value for the lug nuts?

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Old Apr 19, 2022 | 09:25 AM
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Your manual is a wonderful resource

The recommended tire rotation pattern is in the manual. I suspect that it tells you to go front to back and then cross the back to the front, but I haven't checked recently.

I was once told by a "tire guy" that modern tires should roll in one direction only (i.e., not be swapped to the other side during rotation). Is that true? I don't know. With the amount of driving that I do and the fact that I have a second set of wheels and snow tires for the winter, my tires get old before they wear out. So, I don't worry about it too much. When I put the A/S tires/wheels on in the spring I swap them front to back and back to front from where they were the year before and do the same with my snow tires/wheels when I put them on in the fall.

Lug nut torque is probably in the manual as well. In my experience most small cars recommend something like 80-85 ft-lb. If you haven't calibrated your torque wrench that's about as close as you're going to get. If you get work done at a shop that uses air-impact guns they'll probably crank them down much tighter than that. Remember to recheck after you drive the car a bit. If they haven't moved they're probably not going to.
 
Old Apr 19, 2022 | 10:00 AM
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30k is the average. But that all depends on your driving habits and where you live in the country.
 
Old Apr 19, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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The Firestone OEM tires are directional - as are most tires these days. There is an arrow sign on the sidewall showing which direction they should turn when mounted. The tires have to be mounted on the correct side in order to turn properly. The directionality means that you can only rotate the front driver's wheel to the back drivers side and vice versa, and the front passenger side to the rear passenger side and vice versa. You cannot move any wheel from the drivers side to the passenger side and vice versa - unlesss you take them off the rim and turn them around and remount them.

On the Fit lug nut mounting torque is 80 ft-lbs.
 
Old Apr 19, 2022 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by woof
The Firestone OEM tires are directional - as are most tires these days. There is an arrow sign on the sidewall showing which direction they should turn when mounted. The tires have to be mounted on the correct side in order to turn properly. The directionality means that you can only rotate the front driver's wheel to the back drivers side and vice versa, and the front passenger side to the rear passenger side and vice versa. You cannot move any wheel from the drivers side to the passenger side and vice versa - unlesss you take them off the rim and turn them around and remount them.

On the Fit lug nut mounting torque is 80 ft-lbs.
Very clear and concise, thank you.

But, just to satisfy my curiosity, where is the “arrow sign” on the sidewall exactly? Below is a pic of my OEM Firestone. I don’t see the arrow. Without it, is it possible I have directional tires?

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Old Apr 19, 2022 | 05:18 PM
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I think you're right and I'm wrong about the Firestones being directional. Couldn't see the arrow on my tires although the lighting in my garage is fairly poor. I did however see the directional symbol on my winter General Tires:




I must have gotten confused between the two sets of tires.
 
Old Apr 20, 2022 | 08:45 AM
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I got about 40k on the stock Firestones, then around 50k with the General Altimax RT43. Currently on the General GMAX. Had those installed 2 years ago, but with WFH I've put on 5k in 2 years LOL. We've been asked to start coming into the office twice a week, but round trip is 30 miles so really won't put on a ton of miles.
 
Old Apr 20, 2022 | 10:55 AM
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I've owned two Fits (2010 and 2016) and replaced the tires once on each (so I've had four different types of tires). None of them has been directional.
 
Old Apr 20, 2022 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveGee
What is the tire rotation pattern for our cars, and what is the torque value for the lug nuts?

TIA,

DaveGee
Discount Tires keep good record of my tire purchases. Check them out if you have one near you. Do your online search in their website first. I specifically ask them to cross my tires. In fact, I identify each tire before showing up for free rotations, included in the purchased price. The dumb kids in the service bay never look at the service order so they rotate them front to rear. Tire rotation means you rotate them!!!! After all, the Fit tires are not designed to spin in one direction like Porsches.
 
Old Apr 24, 2022 | 05:47 PM
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I got 36k out the original Firestone tires.
 
Old Apr 27, 2022 | 08:28 PM
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I'm a hair shy of 40,000 miles on the last of the original tires, on a 2017 Fit that we bought in 2018. I'm in Yucatán, Mexico, where it's always hot and sometimes rainy.
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Old May 5, 2022 | 10:15 PM
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Just hit 21K and still got plenty left on the OEMs
 
Old May 6, 2022 | 08:39 AM
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what was the most comfortable for the city ? I am at 30k I kinda want to swap out my alloys as well and sell them. (They tend to get stolen in the city) so don't need the attention.
 
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