Proximity Key Entry and Push Start = Theft Risk?
#23
I found out that if I stand by the driver's door (which would normally unlock when I grab the handle) that someone at the passenger side cannot open / unlock the door. It seems to know where the key is very accurately. It knows if the fob is inside or outside the vehicle, which is an annoyance for people that start their car and let it warm up. They either have to leave the fob in the vehicle or smash it against the window as the door is shut, else the car goes honk honk honk at 5:30 AM. I wouldn't leave a fob attached to the vehicle. There is a minimal physical key in my fob -- you could hide that to get inside, but I don't think it'll start the car. You could take the battery out, and hide the fob, there you go.
Last edited by xorbe; 05-20-2014 at 01:26 AM.
#24
Though the Civic and Accord always are listed up there on the most stolen lists, so that may be less of a deterrant than you would think.
#27
https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/3rd-...it-manual.html
The proximity key works when you're within 32 inches of the door.
The proximity key works when you're within 32 inches of the door.
#29
Well, it *is* Top Gear!
OTOH, I wouldn't doubt that the keyless fob might work a bit further than advertised, and the RF levels are tiny at these distances. We're also looking at Chrysler engineering, not Honda.
OTOH, I wouldn't doubt that the keyless fob might work a bit further than advertised, and the RF levels are tiny at these distances. We're also looking at Chrysler engineering, not Honda.
#31
When you buy a car with keyless entry, do they give you more than one fob? Or do you have to pay extra for a second one? With old school car keys I always got several copies made and stuck them various places (gave one to my boyfriend, put one in a drawer at home, put one in my desk at work) in case of emergencies. What happens if I'm mugged in downtown NOLA, and the thief takes my purse with my key fob inside? I doubt he'd be able to track down my particular car to steal it, but how would I ever get in my car? Will I be able to have a backup fob in a dresser drawer at home?
#32
When you buy a car with keyless entry, do they give you more than one fob? Or do you have to pay extra for a second one? With old school car keys I always got several copies made and stuck them various places (gave one to my boyfriend, put one in a drawer at home, put one in my desk at work) in case of emergencies. What happens if I'm mugged in downtown NOLA, and the thief takes my purse with my key fob inside? I doubt he'd be able to track down my particular car to steal it, but how would I ever get in my car? Will I be able to have a backup fob in a dresser drawer at home?
Another question I have is do the 2015 fits with push button start also have an ignition? The fob comes with a key, so I'm hoping the key can be used with an ignition in case the fob goes missing or if it fails to work.
Last edited by cmchan; 05-24-2014 at 11:09 AM.
#33
When you buy a car with keyless entry, do they give you more than one fob? Or do you have to pay extra for a second one? With old school car keys I always got several copies made and stuck them various places (gave one to my boyfriend, put one in a drawer at home, put one in my desk at work) in case of emergencies. What happens if I'm mugged in downtown NOLA, and the thief takes my purse with my key fob inside? I doubt he'd be able to track down my particular car to steal it, but how would I ever get in my car? Will I be able to have a backup fob in a dresser drawer at home?
#34
The pushbutton is the ignition switch. The fob is the ignition key. The fob should have about as much chance of not working (for ignition purposes) as the immobilizer system, since it's more or less the same general technology, and you're in the same predicament if you lose it as if you lost a "normal" ignition key.
#35
Does anyone know anything about the engine immobilizer? My friend and i were testing out my car; I stood outside with the fob in my pocket and he drove away. He said the car said "no key," but he drove it no problem. He didn't go very far, but probably 200-300 feet away. No "immobilization" to speak of...
#36
Does anyone know anything about the engine immobilizer? My friend and i were testing out my car; I stood outside with the fob in my pocket and he drove away. He said the car said "no key," but he drove it no problem. He didn't go very far, but probably 200-300 feet away. No "immobilization" to speak of...
Last edited by SR45; 08-13-2014 at 05:35 PM.
#37
Does anyone know anything about the engine immobilizer? My friend and i were testing out my car; I stood outside with the fob in my pocket and he drove away. He said the car said "no key," but he drove it no problem. He didn't go very far, but probably 200-300 feet away. No "immobilization" to speak of...
If it's already running, I can understand why they wouldn't just shut down the engine when the fob goes out of range or on the fritz or whatever. It's not really a good situation to be hurling down the highway or halfway across some railroad tracks and then having it decide to shut itself off.
I would expect that the car wouldn't start with the fob very far away at all, but i don't know exactly how far the range is. It may depend on a bunch of factors (how much RF interference there is in the area, for instance).
#38
I think if they steal a car and don't have the fob in it, they can drive. But once they turn it off, that's where the car will stay because they will not be able to restart it.
And, yes to the 32 inches proximity.
And, yes to the 32 inches proximity.
#40
I hear what everyone is saying about the car being running already, but to me it should still immobilize the engine if the key isn't in the car. There's no "good" reason that somebody would be driving away without the key. Yes, I agree it would be less than ideal to have the engine turn off while in motion, but IMO, it's far less ideal to have somebody drive your car miles away from you while you stand there with a key fob in your pocket wondering when the "engine immobilizer" that you read about will activate...