Special as in NOT conventional off the shelf oil


If you dont think there is such a thing as break-in oil, you have never properly broken in a brand new motor.


A rebuilt motor is treated differently then a brand new motor.

And correction for you, Honda does indeed use a break-in oil.

 

While 0w-20 is thinner then oil such as 5w-30, I doubt anyone could really tell the difference, if they were presented with 2 different cups of oil, and you had to figure out which is which from feeling it.

I think honda even says something about 5w-30 if you are operating the car in very hot environments. Check the owners manual to verify

 

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Honda uses the 0w-20 synthetic blend with the Fit. I'm sure it's your preference whether to use fu synthetic going forward, but the dealer told me the blend is "stock".

I'm not wading into the "break in oil" discussion . Above my pay grade.

 

i have a stockpile of 0w-20 for my tacoma. it is full synthetic. i was unable to find non-synthetic or even a blend 0w-20 when i was looking for oil for the truck.

just did a quick search, and i am still unable to find conventional or blended 0w-20... my guess is we have synthetic, unless honda has a special deal with a particular oil manufacturer. who is gonna send their oil to blackstone to test it?

 

I found this on Amazon for the "blend folks":



And this for the "fully synthetic" people:



Now it is just a matter of deciding which camp I want to be in......(ignore these Amazon prices, they represent free Amazon Prime 2-day shipping that is not really free)!

 

wow, blend for $13/qt and full synth for $16/qt? meh, i will keep my $7/qt kendall.

edit: here is full synth from honda for a little under $7

http://www.bernardiparts.com/Honda-M...8798-9XXX.aspx

 

Here is an interesting chart I found on the Bernardiparts.com site:

http://www.bernardiparts.com/Images/..._SEPT_2013.pdf

In addition, these people have much better pricing than Amazon.

 

Re-read the last sentence in my post: (ignore these Amazon prices, they represent free Amazon Prime 2-day shipping that is not really free)!

Like you, I then went to the bernardi parts site, and found the cute chart I posted a link for, and the much better pricing. The fact Amazon Prime is not alway's the cheapest way to buy anything, is the subject of another post, but on a different forum.

 

According to this Honda chart:

http://www.bernardiparts.com/Images/..._SEPT_2013.pdf

They list both the 5W-20 and 0W-20, but recommended the 0W-20.

 

Try this link:

http://www.bernardiparts.com/Images/..._SEPT_2013.pdf

 

That is weird, my link worked on post #27, but not on subsequent posts. Something changed midstream. Thanks for pointing this out!

 

I like this info.


I also see how they go from 5w-30 to 5w-20 for the civic from 6th gen to 7th gen.

Both gens were built to similar tolerances (yes, different sized motor) yet honda was CRAP we can use 20 weight since we built them so well!


lol same with the accord stuff. nearly the same motor, the same tolerances in the 4 cylinders but honda once again was SHIT we built these good too! change the weight!

 

Did 1st O.C. of the new '11 Fit at 7,129 . It now has little over 38,000 miles and burns no oil . Use Pennzoil Platinum 0w-20 for last 3 O.C.s . Intervals average about 7,700 miles thus far .

 

Yeah so anyway... your only source for your information is your own dubious claims about your experience as a mechanic. I gave you an article from Edmund's in my previous post that verified that Honda does in fact use a break-in oil on their new cars. Now, I give you another source... this is what HONDA tells its customers on it's own website:

"Why should I wait to change the oil the first time?"

"Your Honda engine was delivered with an oil that is specially formulated for new engines that have not yet developed their 'natural' wear patterns and may contain minute particles from the manufacturing process."

"American Honda strongly recommends this special oil be left in the engine long enough for these wear patterns to develop, usually until the first maintenance interval specified in your Owner's Manual, based on your specific driving conditions."

SOURCE: Frequently Asked Questions | FAQ | Honda Owners Site

 

this is my first maintenance minder car with no set interval for services. damn, it is scary... i do not think i can go the 7k or more before change the oil, especialy the first time. i will most likely dump it within a few thousand miles.

imho, these extended oil change and service intervals are for advertising. the manufacturers talks about maintenance costs in their sales brochures and on their television ads. upping the mileage intervals (100k plugs, 10k oil changes etc) lowers cost, allowing them to say "zero" maintenance or "only" $100 maintenance costs over 100,000 miles... thus making them more attractive then other manufactuers to the budget minded.

i convinced a friend to buy a 10' fit. he drove that car 30k, and only had the oil changed twice. why i asked? he said "i did it when the car told me too..." great. now we are relying on electronics for the most simple of tasks. kinda of like the no dipstick on the german cars. unnecessary complication.

this of course is my own opinion, and i was in the automotive industry for over 20 years in many capacities from service to admin. ultimately, it is your car, do what you please. doesn't matter to me. again, purely imho, but for my 15' fit, factoring in my driving habits and experience, i will be adhering to 5k oil changes (every 2 months or so). some will say overkill, others will say not enough. it is only 3.5 quarts, so it is cheap insurance against failure.

man, what's with my long winded posts lately...

 

Your 10+ years of experience is no match for Honda's very own website. You're welcome. (now waiting for post refuting Honda's website or possibly a 'I was wrong' post. Betting on the former.)


Frequently Asked Questions | FAQ | Honda Owners Site


Why should I wait to change the oil the first time?


Your Honda engine was delivered with an oil that is specially formulated for new engines that have not yet developed their "natural" wear patterns and may contain minute particles from the manufacturing process.

American Honda strongly recommends this special oil be left in the engine long enough for these wear patterns to develop, usually until the first maintenance interval specified in your Owner's Manual, based on your specific driving conditions.