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Old May 2, 2015 | 12:11 PM
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The Mazda rep I talked to at the auto show told me that the 2 was NOT coming to the US market. He said the new one had moved a bit upmarket and there wasn't room for it under the 3 in their marketing scheme. He thought it might come to Canada, however, as they seem to like small cars more than in the US. The Mazda3 is one of the best selling cars in Canada.
 
Old May 2, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Blade Shunner
The Mazda rep I talked to at the auto show told me that the 2 was NOT coming to the US market. He said the new one had moved a bit upmarket and there wasn't room for it under the 3 in their marketing scheme. He thought it might come to Canada, however, as they seem to like small cars more than in the US. The Mazda3 is one of the best selling cars in Canada.

2016 Mazda2 Fuel Economy Announced

You can't really go by what a rep said at an auto show. I've gotten answers from dealers ranging from "we're not getting it this year" to "we're definitely expecting it by late 2015". The fact that the EPA has released fuel economy numbers for it is a much better indicator.
 
Old May 2, 2015 | 02:51 PM
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A few years ago the EPA released fuel economy numbers for the Suzuki Swift, too.

http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSear...0x&srchtyp=ymm
 
Old May 2, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Blade Shunner
A few years ago the EPA released fuel economy numbers for the Suzuki Swift, too.
And I'm sure there are countless examples of reps at auto shows being incorrect about, well, anything and everything. My point is simply that the EPA is a better source. It's possible that we won't get the Mazda 2 in the U.S., but other than delays, we don't have any real reason to think that as of yet.
 
Old May 4, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Blade Shunner
The Mazda rep I talked to at the auto show told me that the 2 was NOT coming to the US market. He said the new one had moved a bit upmarket and there wasn't room for it under the 3 in their marketing scheme. He thought it might come to Canada, however, as they seem to like small cars more than in the US. The Mazda3 is one of the best selling cars in Canada.
Although I still do think the EPA numbers were a promising source, I just got a text back from my local Mazda dealer:

The Mazda 2 has been discontinued. Would you consider a Mazda 3?
The EPA news is promising but this honestly does sound fairly official; I just don't see why a dealer would tell me a car is discontinued if it wasn't. Still, it could be bad info from the dealer just trying to get me into a car now rather than waiting around for a car they don't have news on.
 

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Old May 4, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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Wow... You're right not to necessarily trust a dealer, but that does sound pretty final. It really is too bad. The new 2 looks like a great little car.
 
Old May 4, 2015 | 10:25 PM
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Just checked MazdaUSA's website. The 2 is gone there, too.
 
Old May 5, 2015 | 07:59 PM
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In saying that the Mazda2 was "discontinued," he presumably meant the previous generation. To my knowledge, those haven't been available for months. So essentially there is no Mazda2 until the new one arrives, reportedly later this year.
 
Old May 5, 2015 | 09:34 PM
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...or next. Given this was the only car that might have made me think twice about my Fit I'm glad I don't have to worry!
 
Old May 8, 2015 | 01:31 PM
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It's a shame that the Mazda 2 is discontinued. That really was the Fit's only competition.
 
Old May 24, 2015 | 05:15 PM
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Another source saying the Mazda 2 will not be sold here: Burlappcar: NO Mazda2 for the US
 
Old May 24, 2015 | 08:14 PM
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Old May 25, 2015 | 12:06 PM
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Mazda cleaned up the front ends a bit on their new models, then toyota went 180 degrees and made the rebadged mazda 2 a frowny catfish monstrosity snout complete with gills.

Scion Says New iA Sedan Shouts Success, We Say It Shouts Mazda2 Rebadge

wow!

 

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Old May 25, 2015 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tbFit
Mazda cleaned up the front ends a bit on their new models, then toyota went 180 degrees and made the rebadged mazda 2 a frowny catfish monstrosity snout complete with gills.

Scion Says New iA Sedan Shouts Success, We Say It Shouts Mazda2 Rebadge

wow!
Agreed! The Scion nose is hideous! What a shame...
 
Old May 25, 2015 | 04:06 PM
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Another example of "Americans aren't buying the cars we aren't selling in America so we will continue to not sell them" logic.

Every once in a while a manufacturer will sell a basic car not really intended for the US market like Toyota did with the Scion bB/xB. It was wildly successful, so naturally they immediately changed it to a bloated, more expensive and less economical US version. Surprise, sales plummeted!

When will they get it through their tiny brains that not everyone here wants a road barge?

And yes the maws they are slapping on the front of recent models are hideous. Modern, well-engineered cars do not need huge air inlets so all of the grillework is there for show only. They continue to get bigger and flashier with every new model.
 

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Old May 26, 2015 | 08:23 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure why the trend is to put such large mouths on cars lately. I realize it's a matter of taste, but it's definitely not mine either.
 
Old May 26, 2015 | 09:02 AM
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Yeah, I'm not sure why the trend is to put such large mouths on cars lately. I realize it's a matter of taste, but it's definitely not mine either.
Agreed. The dumb, gaping maws on the Fiesta and Yaris helped push me toward the Fit. I liked how the Fiesta drove and the price on it, but I couldn't get past Ford's ugly styling and the truly ridiculous center console with its million buttons. Honda's look is much more refined, inside and out, imo.
 
Old May 27, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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Maybe it's a nostalgia thing:

 
Old May 28, 2015 | 07:16 AM
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George, that's a big mouth, but on a big car, and it looks good............classic! Nice find.
 
Old Jun 1, 2015 | 08:13 PM
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Well even though we knew it was coming- this comes from the horses mouth...


2016 Mazda Mazda2 hatch on hold for America - Kelley Blue Book
 



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