You should take a remedial class in statistics, then you'd better understand the manufacturing process.

 

keep it civil people before i lock this thread

 

You mean Honda lost top spot and Hyundai is on top now. I have a garage full of Honda every which way, and am very sad to see how all their new stuff have more issues then they ever had. Fanboy brainwash only works for so long.

Their new 2 stage snowblowers have design issue in a couple different areas that key areas where they won't change the design. Some people are returning them because they clog all the time. How the heck does that EVER get past testing? Where are the engineers who design robust designs?? Where? Not at Honda anymore. They probably fired them to save 10%.

This is not a manufacturing process, this is a engineering/design problem, along with a high up upper management problem for excepting "just barely good enough design" and THEN backing it back 10% plus. To make it "not good enough design". An good engineer could see some of these problems coming. Sometimes you just have to build some robustness into the mix.

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As fate would have it, I received a notice that my 2015 bumper needs to be replaced for safety's sake.

At no additional charge to me.

I contacted the Kia dealership for which I traded it in but after some checking of their inventory, that said the vehicle was wholesaled.

Bet you won't find that little problem in the fine print that we all should read prior to trusting Honda and then paying $20k+.

No more Hondas for me.

 

117k in a year?! Holy shit. No wonder the cat died.

 

It was posted in this forum and other car media outlets, that the very first 2015 Fits didn't shine in the IIHS small overlap test, and that Honda came out very quickly with a free fix. Only a handful of the models on the road were affected, and technically Honda didn't have to do anything. IIHS test results don't require immediate action from car manufacturers. Many in fact argue their poor showings.

 

The empty tank actually happened. A new car got towed in a week after we sold it. The customer wasn't upset because she knew whatever was wrong with a week old car was covered. It wasn't, but Service was nice and didn't charge her for the two gallons of gas they put in it- mainly because she hadn't been upset over the "breakdown."

Things get used up. Things get damaged. Neither of these is necessarily because of a defect, much less "covered." Even a part that is under warranty may not be replaced under waranty, depending on why it needs replacing. We had a guy last summer who needed a new radio touchscreen after a month. Apparently he'd punched it. After a month without it he dropped his attitude a few notches and paid for the replacement.

Cats can get clogged. I worked with a guy who had a VW and decided to trade it because it was coming up on the mileage when VW doesn't say to automatically replace the cat, but to start expecting it to need one. Apparently Honda says this one shouldn't get clogged in less than 80,000 miles- and the OP's went almost half again as far. If it had gone an extra 3,000 miles, nothing would have been covered under the extended, which strikes me as being close to the root of all this: some people seem to want to "get something" out of their warranty. I bought an extended warranty with my car, and I hope it turns out to have been a waste of money. So far, so good.

I'm a customer, not a fan. But calling out the whole company as being bad because one item failed after 1.5x the warranty mileage is just unreasonable. The cat doesn't know or care that it's only been in service a year. Neither do the tires, brakes, etc. Ther lives aren't dictated by the calendar, much less by what an extended warranty covers.

 

Don't you just hate it when "some people" who paid $1,200.00 for an extended warranty want to "get something" out of their warranty ??

The nerve.

Buying an extended warranty and hoping it is a waste of money ???

If you're dealing with Honda your hopes will come true.

 

The best first aid kit is the one you bought and never had to open.

I want my homeowners insurance to be a waste of money. I want my life insurance to be a waste of money. I want my disability insurance to be a waste of money. I wanted all the time and money the Army spent training me to be wasted. And yes, I want the extended warranty I bought to be a waste of money.

I'd rather not have the problem occur than to somehow think I'm "winning" by getting compensated for a disaster.

 

Sad to see that you got rid of the fit. I was using you as the canary since you were accumulating so many miles so quickly.

Is that bumper replacement a tsb or specific to your car? I ask because I had been after them to fix my misaligned front bumper for a few months. They had agreed on fixing it then before I could get them to commit to a date, I hit a pothole that scuffed up the bottom. I gave up at that point and chalked it up to this car being haunted by evil spirits. If it's a tsb maybe I'll go after them again. Can you scan the letter by chance?

Anyways hope you have better luck with the new car. This was my first Honda and has definitely left a bad impression on the brand. It's take a small miracle to sway me to the brand again...

 

Best post I've seen on this forum so far!

 

Completely legitimate. It's always sad when a company with a reputation for quality ships something with gremlins. I hope both of your next rides are trouble free.

 

The average catalytic converter lifespan is 100,000 miles.

 

 

Apparently not.
I never said, or ever suggested such a thing. But if you had read the terms of the warranty, you would have known that the cat is not covered.
So you believed the finance guy's vague blanket statement, instead of reading the actual warranty? Wow.
Not at all. But if they read the warranty, at least they'll know what's covered.

 

Wise to buy Honda Care, or wise to read all the things that Honda Care doesn't cover?

Extended warranties are always a bad idea. The money you pay goes toward expected repairs, a healthy kickback to the salesmen who sold you on the warranty, the salaries of the people who administrate the warranty plan, their taxes, and the nice offices they occupy. The only way that you can win is if you have a big failure that doesn't fall into the long list of exclusions, as the OP found.

Your payback would be better in a casino and at least you would be entertained there.

A better idea: Put the money that you would have spent on the extended warranty into a bank account. Add to it whatever payments you would have made. Pay for repairs out of the account. When you sell the car, you get to keep all the money left over!

 

Both. The electronics worry me although I did auto electrical in the 60's when I ran a service station at nights while in college. I always read all documents before deciding.

Bought warranty from Hyannis Honda at a sharp discount since they were not my selling dealer. I live in NC.

 

What a bummer.

Cats used to fail more before modern engine management. On a new car, geez, I would not expect the cat to fail for a long long time. I'd expect the pipe to be rusting through before the cat itself gets plugged up with carbon. No doubt lack of an 02 sensor will do that. I would think an 02 sensor would throw a code if it failed, but knowing how they're made, I believe it could be functioning and putting out miscalibrated voltages. I could see that. Really stinks though ..

 

Is it just me or is over 100k miles in one year not insane, I mean I am lucky to have a small commute to work but I won't hit 100k in 7 years likely. Even with trips to family in other states for the holidays. As long as you read the contract to whatever you are buying you legitimately cannot complain. I would also ask what fuel, oil and driving style you had with the vehicle.

 

at 117k its not called mechanical failure its called normal wear and tear.