After our 1991 accord (MT, natch) dies, we will become a one car family. If our only car was a CVT, I'd be pretty depressed. Not "suicide" depressed, mind you. Just "not as happy" depressed.

I know, I know, these are first world problems.

 

There is also the change from winter blend to summer blend gas. Summer blend gives me better fuel economy.

 

Blasphemy! You'd better deadbolt the door and load the shotgun, for the Manual Transmission Gestapo will be visiting soon!

Realistically, there is a reason why auto gearboxes are explicitly banned in most forms of automobile racing. Competition depends upon an element of chance and shifting gives more variables for the drivers to screw up.

I don't autocross, but the CVT gives me an edge in the daily "stoplight grand prix." We're evenly matched until it comes time to shift and then I gain a car length. Hard to accelerate with the clutch depressed!

 

The MT is faster that the CVT in 0-60 and quarter-mile.

 

Spend the $700 and get the AC on your 2007 fixed and hold out for the 2016 with MT. If you get the 2016 with CVT and end up not liking it which it sounds like you will not you will take more than a $700 dollar loss when you sell it or trade it in because you can't stand driving an automatic. It will also make selling your 2007 easier if the AC is working.

 

Have you actually seen any 2016 MTs? From anecdotal posts on this board, it seems there is no such thing now. Everything seems to be CVT only, even the LXs.

 

I did a search on autotrader for 2015 and 2016 manual fits. Found no new 2016 manuals at all. A few new leftover 2015s and I found 1 used 2016 manual transmission for sale. I did the search to cover all USA. I found 1 new yellow EX manual 2015 left over in west TN.

James

 

Now this is what I call a sad state of affairs.

 

Get the flappy paddle and have both

 

No clutch, no deal.

No problem for me. I'll have my 2nd gen mt until the self-driving cars make their appearance.

 

Hopefully this is only a temporary situation. It would truly be a sad day to not see new Fits with manuals available. While I like the CVT, I would consider the MT on the next go around if something happened to my 2015 and certainly want the option available.

 

I see one every day in my driveway.

 

So do I. My worry is what I would replace it with if something happened to it.


Obviously, with the government and the tech industry pushing us toward "self driving" cars, the manual transmission has no real future.


Yesterday, my work computer died again without warning. Do we REALLY want to trust our lives and our families lives to such flaky and unreliable technology?

 

Oh I hear you. But the writing has been on the wall for a long time. Part of the reason I encouraged my wife to grab the Fit now rather than wait is the near certainty that the days of the manual are numbered and that number is small.

 

The thing i HATE about the CVT in the Honda and the Nissan CVT is the fake shift points , there are NO gears. they program a "bump" to make people feel like it has gears. Realistically I'd rather have a torque trim lever so I can adjust the rpm to speed ratio to cover weird stuff like long downhill decent where the thing hunts for the right ratio too much..

I've had two extended rentals for business that were CVT and I have a Nissan 2500 Work van thats a CVT. I wouldn't own one myself,, CVT's have the soul of a pet rock.. Function over fun.. I prefer my GD3 sport auto over the CVT. My personnel cars besides that are all manuals.

 

The CVT on the Fit is very smooth with acceleration and deceleration with no bumps. I've only felt a few non-linear changes when transitioning from complete coast to accelerating, and then only when you are not smooth on the accelerator uptake.

On the EX, when you put the shift lever in "S", you can use the shift levers to simulate something like 7 virtual gears that have fixed ratios until you change them or you hit the rev limiter or the low idle speed. It actually works as intended and is useful for going down hills with a little forced engine braking, or when driving spiritedly uphill in the twisties and you want more control of engine speed in and out of the corners.

However, while in this virtual gear mode, the shifts are not as smooth because the engine speed is changing abruptly, just like in a 'regular' automatic transmission. Long term and while driving around normally, I personally don't find those 'regular' automatic transmissions 'bumps' particulary appealing and would have selected the 6sp manual over it if CVT was not as usable as it is.

Like others that own the Fit CVT, I've found it to be quite good for an automatic.

Having said all that, the 6sp manual would have been my first choice if the top gear settled in on a lower and quieter RPM at 75mph. If the CVT can seemingly idle down the road quietly at 2500RPM at 75mph, why can't the manual 6th gear be a bit lower and if I lug the engine passing uphill, I can down shift to 5th just like you normally would. Maybe the average Joe isn't likely to down shift? Hmmmm....

 

Yeah just before I bought my Fit last year I started reading about the upcoming Fit switchover and I really wanted to wait for a Japan build but the ol' GTI was going to flatline any day and I had to act. But I have no regrets, my car has no problems and now in light of the seeming absence of '16 MTs I'm glad I did what I did when I did it.

 

That's where I was when I was car shopping. The Fit is my commuter car so I wanted the best gas mileage. I had originally planned on the manual since historically they get better gas mileage. I was surprised to learn the CVT got better gas mileage and had lower RPM at highway speeds. If the manual got better gas mileage and lower RPM at highway speeds, I would have bought it. I guess I'll hop on the motorbike when I feel the need to click through gears as I'm happy enough with the CVT...

Oh and got 45.613 MPG at last fillup

 

A nine hour 29mi commute in a snow storm, much of it up hill, a couple of years ago made me decide on dropping the stick. If I want to play I have the flappy paddle shifters

 

I have flappy paddles on my current car and had them on the previous one as well. In no way, shape or form are they even an approximation of the type of "play" - or entertaining driver engagement - that happens with a good manual. I just about never use them because there is little joy and almost no point.

I agree that the CVT in the Fit (and Civic) is a good example of its breed. But lets face it - the CVT is the most joyless of the non-manual options. If there's no clutch on the floor, then for me DCT > Slushbox auto > CVT.