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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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EX with leather? Regearing?

Hi!

I am looking at some used 2015 EX models (I want the manual). I saw one with leather, is that aftermarket?

Also, is there any recommended aftermarket gearing change for the 6th gear that will lower the RPMs on the highway?

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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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Is leather wrapped? It's probably aftermarket, click on my sig pic and you can see the wheelskin on mine as a comparison. They could have also swapped in the EX-L steering wheel, but that would have taken a lot of work and expense.

No gearing change that I know of, but don't really follow it since I drive the CVT model.
 
Old Mar 31, 2017 | 10:25 AM
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No, all the seats are done out in tan leather, including the back seat! Strange right? And I am certain its a manual, I can see the shifter!





Ok, thanks!
 

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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bigcanoe
Hi!

I am looking at some used 2015 EX models (I want the manual). I saw one with leather, is that aftermarket?

Also, is there any recommended aftermarket gearing change for the 6th gear that will lower the RPMs on the highway?

Thanks!
I worked for an auto trim shop years ago and they frequently put leather interiors into all sorts of Hondas. But it ain't cheap.
 
Old Mar 31, 2017 | 11:10 AM
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It looks nice from the pictures, I assumed it was a custom job, thank you!
 
Old Mar 31, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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As for the gearing, my advice is to drive it and stop worrying. It's not like you're damaging the engine.
 
Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:12 PM
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And thats cheaper too...
 
Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:31 PM
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Yup that has to be a custom job, looks well done. My sister-in-law worked for Toyota and now for Honda. She was able to order her Dad a car and get it leather installed even though from the factory it couldn't be ordered the way because of the trim package he ordered. The leather was aftermarket, but it looked like it came that way from the factory.
 
Old Apr 4, 2017 | 04:06 PM
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The local Honda dealer here offers to have a 3rd party leather install for about 1200 bucks. I saw some cars done and it looks even better than the stock leather in my 2015 EX-L-N.
 
Old Apr 4, 2017 | 06:59 PM
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As for the gearing, my advice is to drive it and stop worrying. It's not like you're damaging the engine.
May not be hurting the engine but it absolutely hurts gas mileage.
 
Old Apr 5, 2017 | 02:26 AM
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The local Honda dealer here offers to have a 3rd party leather install for about 1200 bucks. I saw some cars done and it looks even better than the stock leather in my 2015 EX-L-N.
They're just most likely selling the Katzkin interior? You can also custom order it in different colors for the Tuner bunch. Top notch stuff

https://katzkin.com
 
Old Apr 5, 2017 | 03:00 AM
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May not be hurting the engine but it absolutely hurts gas mileage.
If you could change the gear set, you couldn't save enough in gas in your lifetime. Pennywise, pound foolish.
 
Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:17 AM
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If you could change the gear set, you couldn't save enough in gas in your lifetime. Pennywise, pound foolish.
Do we know that?

The difference in highway efficiency of the manual and CVT (5/36) is 13.8% as reflected in EPA procedure. In my current vehicle over the last 80,000 miles I've spent approximately $6400 on gasoline. 13.8% of that is nearly $900.

A change is the cog for the top gear in a gasoline VW to the cog used in the VW diesel is a well known modification that increased speed per thousand revolutions from 25mph to 32mph. "How to" videos make this look easy, but I suppose everything is easy for people who know how to do it.

VW later incorporated that longer gearing in Golfs. Those later Golfs with the same displacement engine tuned for greater peak HP returned better mileage. In my experience mileage under identical conditions increased from 28-30mpg to 35-40mpg.

While not conclusive on the topic of gains in a Fit, there do seem to be several observations here that efficiency plummets as speeds exceed 70mph. For a handy person who spends lots of time on the highway, there may be potential for real improvement.

I don't know which Honda product would need to be cannibalised for that replacement cog, but there must be a lunatic hypermiler somewhere who has tried it.
 

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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 02:10 PM
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Do we know that?

The difference in highway efficiency of the manual and CVT (5/36) is 13.8% as reflected in EPA procedure. In my current vehicle over the last 80,000 miles I've spent approximately $6400 on gasoline. 13.8% of that is nearly $900.

A change is the cog for the top gear in a gasoline VW to the cog used in the VW diesel is a well known modification that increased speed per thousand revolutions from 25mph to 32mph. "How to" videos make this look easy, but I suppose everything is easy for people who know how to do it.

VW later incorporated that longer gearing in Golfs. Those later Golfs with the same displacement engine tuned for greater peak HP returned better mileage. In my experience mileage under identical conditions increased from 28-30mpg to 35-40mpg.

While not conclusive on the topic of gains in a Fit, there do seem to be several observations here that efficiency plummets as speeds exceed 70mph. For a handy person who spends lots of time on the highway, there may be potential for real improvement.

I don't know which Honda product would need to be cannibalised for that replacement cog, but there must be a lunatic hypermiler somewhere who has tried it.
Comparing VW apples to Honda oranges. VW has done a lot of things (some sneaky and illegal). Playing with software to improve mileage while misreporting emissions. One COULD adjust wheel size, rim size, wheel weight and tire pressures to gain gas mileage.

I am, by no means, a hyper-miler, yet I routinely get 35 mpg out of my '15 EX manual, almost entirely short urban trips of under 5 miles. The few interstate jaunts go into the low 40s. I'll admit that 1st is too low and 6th isn't high enough. BFD, it is livable.
 
Old Apr 5, 2017 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KentFinn
Comparing VW apples to Honda oranges. VW has done a lot of things (some sneaky and illegal). Playing with software to improve mileage while misreporting emissions. One COULD adjust wheel size, rim size, wheel weight and tire pressures to gain gas mileage.
Except that VW haven't done anything sneaky or illegal with respect to their 2.5 liter engine. That's the one to which I refer above. I've owned two, an older model with a 150hp engine and a newer one with a 170 hp engine, and have used the same wheels on both and used them over the same commuting route.

The point isn't to compare a VW to a Honda, but to compare similar cars with different gearing.

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I am, by no means, a hyper-miler, yet I routinely get 35 mpg out of my '15 EX manual, almost entirely short urban trips of under 5 miles. The few interstate jaunts go into the low 40s. I'll admit that 1st is too low and 6th isn't high enough. BFD, it is livable.
I don't doubt that it's livable. I like the Fit. However the mileage as reported by many isn't great, and some of that may be attributable to gearing.

I might be able to make that gearing into a virtue by letting it remind me not to speed as much, but that doesn't mean that MelR and others who make similar observations are wrong.

I would be curious to see what a Fit more suited to highway use might look like. Different gearing could help.

I'd also be curious to see the normally aspirated two liter and six speed from the current Civic in a Fit. I imagine the end product as more useful and desirable than a Civic would be.
 

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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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May not be hurting the engine but it absolutely hurts gas mileage.
in mild weather, I'm getting about 42 MPG with my manual, and that's with the snow tires still on the car. It will improve with the summer tires. That's good enough for me.
 
Old Apr 6, 2017 | 06:36 AM
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I'm not advocating changing a gear in my Fit, just commenting on the fact that I think Honda missed the mark with 6th gear. I'm lucky in that my commute is about 50% on roads that are travelled at 70-80kph. I've had my Fit exactly a year and my average is 44 US MPG...not too shabby. Just could be better on the highway. I lose about 10-15% if I travel at 110KPH.
 
Old Apr 6, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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I have not read about anyone on here change their 6th gear, but if I was doing something else that required tranny work I would really consider it. it is an annoyance for me, to have a 6sp and use only 5 speeds, while on the highway I go wanting for another gear. It just seems...wrong.

That being said, apart from highway driving, the gearing on the Fit is fine. It does give the Fit some extra fun when driving. First gear is way too short, and I often shift midway through an intersection. It seems unsafe. 12356 up 64321down.
 
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