2017 Factory Service Manual
Yes - your local public library ight have access to Chilt**n's online manual for the GK. Not many state or County libraries do but they do exist. Otherwise you pay for timed access - use/print all those pages as fast as you can.
Last edited by Jazu; Jan 7, 2021 at 12:28 PM.
I got more info about the Fit's AC from Denso's web site – the AC manufacturer's web site.
I attached the wiring diagram for the HVAC system to a post that I made in fitfreak, in a thread about the AC system, however fitfreak, when displaying it, shrunk it. The original JPG was 4800 by 2687 pixels. Fitfreak displayed it as 1299 by 727, so a lot of the detail got lost.
Interestingly, I found a complete digital service manual for Hyundai and KIa vehicles, available for free, from Hyundai and Kia!!! However the text and the diagram were pretty blurry.
Last edited by nomenclator; Jan 4, 2021 at 09:11 AM.
I'm not sure what you mean by "a converted pdf." Do you mean convert the jpg to a pdf? I can "save to pdf" that with Photoshop. If I recall correctly think the pdf file made this way, retains the same number of pixels as the original jpg. If I insert the jpg into a Microsoft Word docx file, choosing either insert, link to file, or insert and link, and view it in print layout mode, and set the printer page to 8.5 by 11 inches, the displayed image has a lot fewer pixels than the original. It has only enough dpi to display clearly on a single 8.5 by 11 inch page. If I then save the file to a pdf, – if I recall correctly the pdf comes out with a lot smaller number of pixels in the process – about the same is it did in Word.. Acrobat reader doesn't tell you how many pixels. but if I use reader to enlarge the display it starts getting blurry at above 100% display size. I am not really too familiar with Paint. If I have the original jpg image in Photoshop and set dpi to 300, then print size becomes 16 by 9 inches. I am not sure if this is large enough to see small details. At 200 dpi the images is 24 by 13.5 inches.
https://www.repairmanuals.co/product...SABEgKvG_D_BwE
I found this while looking for a repair manual, but I haven't heard of this company before and I am unsure whether to buy the access. I wish I could find a hard copy of a Chilton/Haynes manual.
I found this while looking for a repair manual, but I haven't heard of this company before and I am unsure whether to buy the access. I wish I could find a hard copy of a Chilton/Haynes manual.
This is another way to access the same service: https://www.eautorepair.net/Marketing/Default.asp
I purchased the 1-year subscription on the site above. It is the Honda Factory Service Manual and has all the info you need for DIY repairs. I used it for my recent starter replacement on a 2015 EX-L and will be doing the brakes soon.
This is another way to access the same service: https://www.eautorepair.net/Marketing/Default.asp
This is another way to access the same service: https://www.eautorepair.net/Marketing/Default.asp
At the top of the page it says "MItchell1 DIY." I understand that Mitchell also offers digital service manuals for professionals. Having 2 different manuals makes me wary of the manual's completeness. ,I see no reason for separate manuals. The only difference between working on a car as professional, or as a do-it-yourselfer is whether the car belongs to me, or it belongs to someone else. It is the same car whether I am doing it for my own benefit, or as a service to another person. So why should the do-it yourselfer get a different manual? Makes not sense to me. I wonder if they leave things out of the diy manual that they think diyers can't do, or don't have the tools for? I have more tools and more knowhow than some professionals. It sound to me like they are in favor of practicing classism, or of a caste system. Hey, that is very un-American!
Last edited by nomenclator; Jan 7, 2021 at 10:08 PM.
Yes I've seen this web page before.
At the top of the page it says "MItchell1 DIY." I understand that Mitchell also offers digital service manuals for professionals. Having 2 different manuals makes me wary of the manual's completeness. ,I see no reason for separate manuals. The only difference between working on a car as professional, or as a do-it-yourselfer is whether the car belongs to me, or it belongs to someone else. It is the same car whether I am doing it for my own benefit, or as a service to another person. So why should the do-it yourselfer get a different manual? Makes not sense to me. I wonder if they leave things out of the diy manual that they think diyers can't do, or don't have the tools for? I have more tools and more knowhow than some professionals. It sound to me like they are in favor of practicing classism, or of a caste system. That is very un-American.
At the top of the page it says "MItchell1 DIY." I understand that Mitchell also offers digital service manuals for professionals. Having 2 different manuals makes me wary of the manual's completeness. ,I see no reason for separate manuals. The only difference between working on a car as professional, or as a do-it-yourselfer is whether the car belongs to me, or it belongs to someone else. It is the same car whether I am doing it for my own benefit, or as a service to another person. So why should the do-it yourselfer get a different manual? Makes not sense to me. I wonder if they leave things out of the diy manual that they think diyers can't do, or don't have the tools for? I have more tools and more knowhow than some professionals. It sound to me like they are in favor of practicing classism, or of a caste system. That is very un-American.
WHAT'S NOT INSIDE !
Before purchasing, please take a moment to read what is not currently covered in Mitchell 1 DIY. This product is designed for the "Car Savvy" auto enthusiast and deals only with the mechanical repair and service. The following subjects are among those currently not aligned with the intended use of this product and are therefore NOT covered:Body & Collision Repairs, Headlight / Tail Light Replacement. Windows & Regulators. Door Panels, Locks & Latches. Mirrors, Glass, Wipers, Filters R & I, Spark Plugs and Wires R & I, Radiators & Thermostats R & I, Non-Standard Parts.There is also a "Contact Us" link on that page where you could bring this up with them. That page has a link to "What's Not Inside" which shows this:
WHAT'S NOT INSIDE !
Before purchasing, please take a moment to read what is not currently covered in Mitchell 1 DIY. This product is designed for the "Car Savvy" auto enthusiast and deals only with the mechanical repair and service. The following subjects are among those currently not aligned with the intended use of this product and are therefore NOT covered:Body & Collision Repairs, Headlight / Tail Light Replacement. Windows & Regulators. Door Panels, Locks & Latches. Mirrors, Glass, Wipers, Filters R & I, Spark Plugs and Wires R & I, Radiators & Thermostats R & I, Non-Standard Parts.And Mitchell – thanks for nothing. Mitchell1DIY literature sounds next to useless.
The Fit does not have what are commonly known as "spark plug wires" – a set of wires for sending high voltage from the secondary side of a transformer to each of the spark plugs (via a distributor). Instead, it has a separate coil for each cylinder, connecting directly to each spark plug .So I didn't need to read the notice to know there was no info about spark plug wires. From the notice, you cannot tell whether the literature includes info about coil R&I. If their advertising is this vague, this imprecise, I would be concerned that their literature was at least as imprecise if not more imprecise.
It is because I am "savvy" about cars that I am skeptical about this literature.
And I am not an "enthusiast." I am simply someone who likes to save money by doing repairs myself and who likes to know that, because I did it myself, it was done correctly.
Also, the use of a slang term for knowledgeable, savvy, suggests they have an unprofessional view of the relationship between the provider of the information and the user of the information, the service provider and the customer. It is disrespectful. If they can't communicate professionally, I am skeptical that they can provide information in a professional manner. Until I know someone for a long time, and well, I prefer to use slang sparingly. There is a time for the use of slang, and this is not it.
A lot of my skepticism comes from the fact that I once was interviewed for a job by a publisher of car repair books. Yes it was about 50 years ago, but I suspect things have not changed much. I got a look of how they gathered information and how they presented it and how they decided what information they would leave out. I saw how incompetent they were at providing useful information. It was quite obvious that the people "writing" the book were not qualified to do so.
Is the idea behind saying "car savvy" because their thinking is that if the reader is car savvy they'll already know how to do something and the publisher can then neglect to provide the information in their literature? If that is the case, what is the point of buying their service?
I buy service info because I want to know things like how to remove and replace the radiator, and I want to know where I can find the coolant thermostat, and how to test it. I don't understand how a service manual can leave these 2 items out.
That list of things that are not included does not mean that other things are also not included, does it?
Last edited by nomenclator; Jan 7, 2021 at 09:40 PM.
First Mitchell's ad says
Mitchell 1 DIY includes Complete Procedures, Specifications, and Exploded View Illustrations in all categories:
And then further down on the page they say
If they can't even write an ad without contradicting themselves, I would expect the service information to contradict itself.
Instead of simply saying "the following subjects are not convered" they waste my time by adding the superfluous remark "The following subjects are among those currently not aligned with the intended use of this product. and are therefore not covered." That is sort of like saying "potatoes are currently not one of the kinds of food that like to carry for our customers therefore we do not sell them in our grocery store."
Mitchell 1 DIY includes Complete Procedures, Specifications, and Exploded View Illustrations in all categories:
And then further down on the page they say
WHAT'S NOT INSIDE !
Before purchasing, please take a moment to read what is not currently covered in Mitchell 1 DIY. This product is designed for the "Car Savvy" auto enthusiast and deals only with the mechanical repair and service. The following subjects are among those currently not aligned with the intended use of this product and are therefore NOT covered: Body & Collision Repairs, Headlight / Tail Light Replacement. Windows & Regulators. Door Panels, Locks & Latches. Mirrors, Glass, Wipers, Filters R & I, Spark Plugs and Wires R & I, Radiators & Thermostats R & I, Non-Standard Parts.If they can't even write an ad without contradicting themselves, I would expect the service information to contradict itself.
Instead of simply saying "the following subjects are not convered" they waste my time by adding the superfluous remark "The following subjects are among those currently not aligned with the intended use of this product. and are therefore not covered." That is sort of like saying "potatoes are currently not one of the kinds of food that like to carry for our customers therefore we do not sell them in our grocery store."
Last edited by nomenclator; Jan 7, 2021 at 10:01 PM.
I purchased the 1-year subscription on the site above. It is the Honda Factory Service Manual and has all the info you need for DIY repairs. I used it for my recent starter replacement on a 2015 EX-L and will be doing the brakes soon.
This is another way to access the same service: https://www.eautorepair.net/Marketing/Default.asp
This is another way to access the same service: https://www.eautorepair.net/Marketing/Default.asp
In contrast to what Mitchell's web page says, repairmanuals.co's page says "Quite simply, if our manual does not cover it no other will."
Has anyone used a manual from repairmanual.co?
I did notice that despite their claim of complete information, their sample wiring diagram was black on white. The manual I got through my public library had color-coded diagrams – much easier to deal with. It is no longer available though.
Last edited by nomenclator; Jan 7, 2021 at 10:40 PM.
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