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Old 09-19-2018, 02:36 PM
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Three warning lights at once

Hey everyone,
Just recently, three of my warning lights came on at the same time: the malfunction indicator, electric power steering, and vehicle stability assist system. They will stop for a bit, then come back. Sometimes one or two, but usually all three. The car does not seem any different while driving since the lights have come on.

Any ideas what's causing this?

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Old 09-19-2018, 02:44 PM
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I have no idea, but if you disconnect the battery and let the car sits for a while and then reconnect it. Maybe this resetting will make the phantom problem go away.
 
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Old 09-19-2018, 02:49 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a shot and see if anything comes of it.
 
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:37 PM
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I know it seems crazy, but when we've seen this come up with GK's it ends up leading to a misfire and then fuel injector replacement.

Is the car a '15 or early '16 model? Those have a huge injector failure rate.
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 01:43 PM
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It's a 2015. I'm probably going to make an appointment with Honda because I don't want to mess around with it if it's potentially that serious.

Thanks!
 
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It's the fuel injectors.
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:39 PM
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Do you recommend I take it into a Honda dealership for maintenance, or is this something that can be easily done elsewhere? Are the fuel injectors dirty, or what is the issue?
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:43 PM
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The issue is that Honda used faulty injectors and are now burying their head in the sand and denying coverage even though there is a TSB and documentation that they ALL fail.

Take it to the dealer because it will need new injectors. If they try to not cover the expense, call the 800 number in your owners manual and complain.
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:45 PM
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So that you are aware of the entire situation, the faulty injectors usually lead to additional carbon build up and also harm the catalytic converter.

https://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/...n_system.shtml

https://www.truedelta.com/Honda-Fit-tsbs-99,2015
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:53 PM
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op didnt provide much back ground info

-any new/recent changes to car?
-ie, did you touch the air filter?
-have you tried the good ol "disconnect negative, re connect" trick?
-any CEL codes that were pulled?
-more info, would be helpful
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:54 PM
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Oh man, that is incredibly helpful - thanks so much.
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:57 PM
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The only thing I've done recently is had an oil change, but that was last week, and the lights were on before it as well. I'll try to disconnect the battery and see if there's a change.
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 02:59 PM
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As evil pointed out above, I could be jumping to a conclusion too early though. A loose battery connection can also cause weird things to happen.

I only jumped to the fuel injector conclusion because we've had quite a few reports on here lately of people that make it a few months out of warranty and then...bam! $1,000 bill for new injectors.
 
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Old 09-20-2018, 07:13 PM
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Update for those interested:

I disconnected/reconnected the battery and the lights have gone off. I am optimistic that it was a phantom issue, but if it does come back I'm glad I likely know the reason.

Thanks again to everyone who responded.
 
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Old 09-24-2018, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GAFIT
The issue is that Honda used faulty injectors and are now burying their head in the sand and denying coverage even though there is a TSB and documentation that they ALL fail.

Take it to the dealer because it will need new injectors. If they try to not cover the expense, call the 800 number in your owners manual and complain.
Do you know where I can find any documentation to back-up my claim to get the service comped?
 
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Old 09-24-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by alex.melvin
Do you know where I can find any documentation to back-up my claim to get the service comped?
Have the lights come back on?

https://www.truedelta.com/Honda-Fit-tsbs-99,2015

It's TSB #A18-027
 
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Old 09-24-2018, 09:19 AM
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Yeah, they came back on after a few minutes of driving. I have scheduled an appt with Honda and quoted that TSB. Thanks!
 
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Old 09-24-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by alex.melvin
Yeah, they came back on after a few minutes of driving. I have scheduled an appt with Honda and quoted that TSB. Thanks!
Please keep us updated. It honestly affects the likelihood of some of us every buying another Honda product.

The way they are handling this known issue is atrocious.
 
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:47 AM
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Hey, so here's another update:

Brought it into Honda, they did their diagnostics and found that it needs to have four new fuel injectors, injector rails, and a new high pressure line. Parts and labour coming to $2200 + tax, plus another $275 for additional cleaning. This is insane, on a car that is three weeks and a few thousand kms past it's warranty expiry.

I'm calling into Honda customer relations now - I'll see what they say.
 
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:05 PM
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Good luck! Out of curiosity, how many kilometers are on the car?
 


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