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2Rismo2 07-19-2018 08:09 PM

Got a sound clip of them at work?

marmaladedad 07-20-2018 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1406356)
more pics of the hella trumpets, this time, compared to the oems. as you guys will find out, the hella's are THICK


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...e327b7496c.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...a4a2e9f012.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...17267bf41f.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...b68d58d530.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...a2a02b9e67.jpg


the oem harness being so short, reallyi makes the install unpleasant. it would appear, its not as plug&play as expected, and may required some fancy custom brackets in order to make it fit and rotate to the proper direction (with the opening of the trumpet, facing downward). at this rate, these may seriously come off and I will just go with the Hella SuperTones instead

I have not seen the OEM harness style adapter before. Granted, my online searches were never in-depth. Was this included specifically for the set of Hellas you purchased?

The Supertones I purchased only had two spade terminals. I spliced the OEM harness (one wire) leading to the original horn, removing the connector. You could extend the harness by splicing in between, keeping the connectors, and then mount the horns at a location of your choosing.

evilchargerfan 07-20-2018 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by 2Rismo2 (Post 1406386)
Got a sound clip of them at work?

I personally did not make one, but this youtube vid is what sold me. the car used in the vid has a rather, "sad" oem horn, so this is a good comparison to our oem "meep meep" horns



Originally Posted by marmaladedad (Post 1406433)
I have not seen the OEM harness style adapter before. Granted, my online searches were never in-depth. Was this included specifically for the set of Hellas you purchased?

The Supertones I purchased only had two spade terminals. I spliced the OEM harness (one wire) leading to the original horn, removing the connector. You could extend the harness by splicing in between, keeping the connectors, and then mount the horns at a location of your choosing.

our factory horn harness, has 2 wires leading into it right? and then, the harness itself has just 1 pin inside.... if i recall?

this is the harness I purchased.


by the looks of the pictures, I'll have to splice the oem harness (remove it entirely) and tap the "back to stock horn harness" red/black wires to the oem's 2 wires.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...fd1dee19ae.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...0393879d3b.jpg

evilchargerfan 07-20-2018 01:50 PM

do you guys think I can leave the oem harness as is.... and simply plug the red wire from the harness kit, into the 1 pin thats located inside the oem harness .... and make it work?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...7f4b2a5328.png

Z062FIT 07-20-2018 03:02 PM

Hey, ECF, you got the ktuner, have you only plugged in with the stock tune? Or did you have it tuned/tune it yourself? Cheers, d

evilchargerfan 07-20-2018 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Z062FIT (Post 1406489)
Hey, ECF, you got the ktuner, have you only plugged in with the stock tune? Or did you have it tuned/tune it yourself? Cheers, d

I can only dream of/wish I had the talent and ability to tune a car

For the time being, I'm running the included "stage 1" map. One day, I'd like to find a tuner to work with, and create a custom tune for the mods I have/will have

marmaladedad 07-20-2018 03:58 PM

Perhaps the newer generation of Fit has two wires leading to the horn?

My horn wire harness only had one wire leading to the OEM horn. I cut that, stripped it back a little, then used some butt connectors to another length of wire. The new wire was split in two to each Supertone. The remaining post on each Supertone was wired to the frame/mounting bracket as ground. This is similar to what the stock horn does (one wire for power, chassis ground).

I did not use the relay, nor did I run any in-line fuse to the battery. I read that not doing so could lead to the wire catching fire, but I have yet to see that happen (in this car or other cars of mine that have had aftermarket horns installed).

evilchargerfan 07-20-2018 04:10 PM

I wonder if I can just ground the neg wire, and the pos wire to the rest of the harness .... hmmmm

kenchan 07-20-2018 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1406269)
$365 for a ktuner v1.2..... yall better hurry

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F253759429455

yah but wat are u going to do with an NA engine.. skip.

kenchan 07-20-2018 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1406508)
I wonder if I can just ground the neg wire, and the pos wire to the rest of the harness .... hmmmm

the horn usually only needs one hot wire and the housing is grounded. give it a shot.

i use supertones on my STI with a perin mount. it sounds.. LOUD! not a pretty tone at all which i likes on a wrx.

evilchargerfan 07-20-2018 05:47 PM

hmmmm, that gives me an idea ... i currently have hella's on my 04 wrx .... ill take off the grille and see how I did the install. IIRC .... the hot wire was connected to the actual horns and the black wire was grounded to the hood latch.... will report back in a few hours!

evilchargerfan 07-20-2018 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1406529)
yah but wat are u going to do with an NA engine.. skip.

i know its not much, but its SOMETHING. it helps with simple stuff like .... driving to vegas, in 5th or 6th gear ... and I need a little extra kick going from 65 mph to 80mph so I can pass up a truck.

its not a STAGE 2'd sti or wrx, but it really helps. you gotta give it a try some day, for kicks & giggles. maybe someone nice can let you borrow their ktuner for 1 day

kenchan 07-20-2018 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1406539)
hmmmm, that gives me an idea ... i currently have hella's on my 04 wrx .... ill take off the grille and see how I did the install. IIRC .... the hot wire was connected to the actual horns and the black wire was grounded to the hood latch.... will report back in a few hours!

yah, keep us posted.


Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1406540)
i know its not much, but its SOMETHING. it helps with simple stuff like .... driving to vegas, in 5th or 6th gear ... and I need a little extra kick going from 65 mph to 80mph so I can pass up a truck.

its not a STAGE 2'd sti or wrx, but it really helps. you gotta give it a try some day, for kicks & giggles. maybe someone nice can let you borrow their ktuner for 1 day

it does? huh.. okay. well if u notice dat big of a difference i suppose.
too bad not many places do nos refills dese days. nos is so easy to get u da power u want when needed. i had a zex system back in da day, super easy to install too and it was like a 50 or 60shot.

Z062FIT 07-20-2018 08:48 PM

Tuner
 

Originally Posted by evilchargerfan (Post 1406498)
I can only dream of/wish I had the talent and ability to tune a car

For the time being, I'm running the included "stage 1" map. One day, I'd like to find a tuner to work with, and create a custom tune for the mods I have/will have

I got a guy up here that can tune anything. Once I get my ktuner I'll take it to him. Doc's performance. He's from escondido, tuned my HCIE vette to 560 whp

evilchargerfan 07-23-2018 12:02 PM

due to a busy comic con weekend .... no new updates from me. other than, I'm more poor and lack rest



Originally Posted by Z062FIT (Post 1406566)
I got a guy up here that can tune anything. Once I get my ktuner I'll take it to him. Doc's performance. He's from escondido, tuned my HCIE vette to 560 whp

does he dyno tune? or etune?

Shawn Church has always been my go-to-guy for tunes. IIRC, he does work up in Vegas nowadays. I recently reached out to him, and found out he does tune ktuner's

evilchargerfan 07-23-2018 01:32 PM

actually, there is a pic or two or three I'd like to share. comic con weekend always gives me a chance to hang out with friends from out of town, and explore my own city .... something I rarely ever do for one reason or another

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...94b4098819.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...836ccbc957.jpg


if you guys never been to san diego during comic-con ... its a damn good time ... highly recommended!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...d44f47ba45.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...2aa52afa01.jpg

(my 1st time, having beer on a fishermans pier. pretty damn cool bar/experience)

kenchan 07-25-2018 07:01 PM

cool picts evil. ive never been to one of dose events, are dese more domestic comic based theme or more japanese anime?

im neither an anime or comic fan but my wife has a j-comic library with like 4000 comic books. lol

evilchargerfan 07-26-2018 04:45 PM

its pop culture, more than just comics. you'll find regular ass comics, you'll find anime, you'll find comics with .... er.... tentacles ... o_0

you'll also find disney, spongebob/nickelodeon, and other popular tv shows and movies.... theres something for everyone. theres video games, too much for me to describe. you should google it, and take a look at some videos people put up, it should give you a decent "feel" for what the vibes are like at one of these epic events

kenchan 07-26-2018 07:41 PM

tentacles? lol'ed! datz cool. SD is such a clean city too. :nod: ive been dere a couple of times when i lived in LA like 2 decades ago.. use to go down to tijuana to visit my old work's factory and all..

Jazz GD3 07-27-2018 01:46 AM

Hey what reader is that? Looks nice!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...634fca7775.jpg[/QUOTE]

evilchargerfan 07-27-2018 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Jazz GD3 (Post 1407365)
Hey what reader is that? Looks nice!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...634fca7775.jpg

[/QUOTE]

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evilchargerfan 07-27-2018 05:37 PM

FINALLY got around to buying bolts that fit the Throttle Body spacer. It was a huge PITA ... all local store only carried 60mm or 70mm bolts, 65mm was the length I needed. Amazon ... FTW. For anyone considering doing this ... know that shifting the throttle body does mess with the mounting location of the oem air box ... be warned.

(why didnt I cut it? I cant locate my dremel, its lost in a sea of moving boxes)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...9982258d1d.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...3dd16ade43.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...2ad3a76d0d.jpg

evilchargerfan 07-27-2018 05:42 PM

ALSO .... while I was in there and my hands already nice and dirty ... I went ahead and installed an air compressor inline moisture seperator. (AKA, oil catch can)


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...326a0c9acf.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...ebeb844f3c.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...3125b51b24.jpg

installed at 30k. def a noticeable amount of fluid in there after only 1 day (30 ish miles) of driving
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...f7e37c96f2.jpg


Helios 07-27-2018 11:00 PM

We have these on all the equipment at work. I don’t know why I never thought to repurpose one. Brilliant!

kenchan 07-28-2018 06:29 AM

looks good evil! can u notice anything different with the throttle body spacer?

2Rismo2 07-30-2018 08:57 AM

Got a link for that catch can? I like that it's more compact than other versions posted on here and the fact that it's glass like you posted in another thread.

evilchargerfan 07-30-2018 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Helios (Post 1407507)
We have these on all the equipment at work. I don’t know why I never thought to repurpose one. Brilliant!

:thumbups:


Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1407526)
looks good evil! can u notice anything different with the throttle body spacer?

NOPE! not at all .... maybe a TINY bit more response at low end... but.... i wouldnt go out and tell all my friends "go buy yourselves a throttle body spacer, its great"


Originally Posted by 2Rismo2 (Post 1407767)
Got a link for that catch can? I like that it's more compact than other versions posted on here and the fact that it's glass like you posted in another thread.

this is the exact one i bought:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-OIL-...itleDesc=0%7C0

I did notice, there are others out there that look the same and cheaper .... like this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ENGINE-OIL-...itleDesc=0%7C0

2Rismo2 07-30-2018 03:28 PM

Thanks I appreciate it!

evilchargerfan 07-30-2018 04:20 PM

minor update .... had some fun with the hood, hood garnish/trim, and some VViViD Tech Art Gloss Carbon Fiber wrap


washed then clay'd the hood:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...ca9d5829e4.jpg

2-3 ish hours later:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...b4ecfb81dc.jpg

pics from outside/in the sun:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...d71cbad7e0.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...e3206215b4.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...7c0e891d73.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...d468258fe0.jpg
parked next to "THE CAVE STORE", highly recommended spot for anyone visiting san diego/la jolla cove

bdcheung 07-30-2018 04:21 PM

Nice!

Off topic but what turn signal / DRL bulbs are you running? They don't look amber.

evilchargerfan 07-30-2018 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by bdcheung (Post 1407839)
Nice!

Off topic but what turn signal / DRL bulbs are you running? They don't look amber.

I did not touch those, they're still oem

(if anything, maybe the prev owner changed something?)

marmaladedad 07-31-2018 08:04 PM

Wrapped hood and trim look good!

kenchan 07-31-2018 08:30 PM

nice evil. time for red emblems!!

evilchargerfan 08-01-2018 12:50 PM

thanks for the kind words guys. red emblems..... I'm actually kickin around the idea of blue ones .... time will tell =)




SO.... after 339 miles ... here is how much oil my "catch can" has collected, roughly 5ml:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...521aab5e4b.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...95e799260e.jpg

oil catch can installed at 32000, temporarily removed at 32339:
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...f991e6d279.jpg

for those who wonder, this is the oil I use. I went with the "high mileage" formula, I hear it has conditioners for the rings.... *shrug*
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fit...033ee0c946.jpg


The day of the oil catch can install, I also installed the TB spacer. for the past week or so, I did notice my car has lost a decent amount of top end power. I'm wondering if its the catch can? Could it possibly be that the design of this moisture trap/moisture separator is somehow restricting flow?

For the next week or 2, I'm gonna experiment by removing the oil catch can, and seeing if it restores any of my top end. If I dont see any diff, I'll do the opposite and remove the TB spacer and reinstall the oil catch can and re observe. As always, I'll report back soon ish

mike410b 08-01-2018 02:19 PM

Why would you put a catch can on a street car that doesn't actively consume oil? That seems like it has zero benefit & only room for harm.

bdcheung 08-01-2018 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by mike410b (Post 1408109)
Why would you put a catch can on a street car that doesn't actively consume oil? That seems like it has zero benefit & only room for harm.

Because it's actually catching oil, which means that oil isn't making it to the intake manifold and slobbering our intake valves.

kenchan 08-01-2018 03:55 PM

wow datz a lot of oil!!

Alfa38 08-01-2018 05:52 PM

That's a fair bit of oil for less than 400 miles...

evilchargerfan 08-01-2018 06:00 PM

5ml per 400 miles isnt THAT bad. Times that by 10 ... every 4000 miles driven should come out to 50ml of oil loss. Assuming I'm a thug and do oil changes every 8000 miles, that comes out to 100ml of oil loss.

100ml = 3.38oz
Oil Change Interval = 3.5 QT = 112oz

That comes out to roughly 3% oil loss, I think its fair to say, its within the realm of "safe"

Alfa38 08-01-2018 06:25 PM

Sure, not THAT bad, but better if it isn't baked on to the back of your valves


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