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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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it shouldnt even be a comparison. putting the power to the rear wheels is just SO much smarter than the front wheels.
 
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
competetive with other FWD cars. true.
false... see below for example


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYj01_c1fqg
DODGE neon srt-4 - FWD
VW GTI (mk3 i think?) - FWD
TOYOTA MR2 (mk2) - RWD
FORD F-150 - RWD

and

YouTube - wtcc 2009 06 brno review

those cars are found here
WTCC - Fia World Touring Car Championship
BMW 320 - RWD
SEAT leon - FWD
LADA priora - FWD
CHEVY cruze - FWD
VOLVO C30 - FWD

and

SPEED world challenge, touring car class
http://www.world-challenge.com/video/
HONDA TSX - FWD
BMW 328 - RWD
MAZDA 6 - FWD
MAZDA RX8 - RWD
FORD focus - FWD
LEXUS IS300 - RWD
etc...
all cars found here (TC class)
http://www.world-challenge.com/drivers/bio-index.php
 

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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dela
false... see below for example..
YouTube - wtcc 2009 06 brno review...
teh gheyness @ 0:11


LoL
 
Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GD3_Wagoon
teh gheyness @ 0:11


LoL
look at the cars.. not the european friendlies.... lol
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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lol at this even being a debate.
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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FR vs MR

 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by GD3_Wagoon
FR vs MR

MR every time. F1 knows this.

Actually, why not be like the twin engine Escudo? Two engines FTW.
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mikejet
MR every time. F1 knows this.

Actually, why not be like the twin engine Escudo? Two engines FTW.
i don't know if F1 counts given all the strict regulations they've got to follow .. this season, they might as well produce the cars for each team then have them race -- i believe in leveling the playing field but c'mon

in most GT racing series, FR/MR/RR cars compete against each other regularly. i thought i'd start up a worthwhile conversation where everyone can teach/learn the advantages and disadvantages of real sports cars instead FWD bashing and calling each other ghey LoL
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GD3_Wagoon
i don't know if F1 counts given all the strict regulations they've got to follow .. this season, they might as well produce the cars for each team then have them race -- i believe in leveling the playing field but c'mon

in most GT racing series, FR/MR/RR cars compete against each other regularly. i thought i'd start up a worthwhile conversation where everyone can teach/learn the advantages and disadvantages of real sports cars instead FWD bashing and calling each other ghey LoL
That is the fun part of it, is it not?
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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"how bout we stop all this nonsense and settle this in the STREETS!"

F&F ftw* -End Thread-
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by accordguyintake
"how bout we stop all this nonsense and settle this in the STREETS!"

F&F ftw* -End Thread-
or... how about we each put a condom on our head then see who can inflate it the biggest before it pops?
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDancingPill
That is the fun part of it, is it not?
touché
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by junior40er
lol at this even being a debate.
did you even look at my links..? you own an mr2, so did i... n ur prob a rwd purist, but if there were no advantages at all to fwd compared to rwd, then every motorsport would only have rwd...

even look at the 2wd rally.. a srt4 is in the lead with times... and theres several rwd cars competing... in the speed challenge, acura and bmw are the main manufacturers and they're pretty competitive with each other, bmw being one of the ONLY rwd manufacturers worth noting... mazdas main car in that series is the mazda 6, a fwd... why not the rx8? which is probably better suited for the series...

im not saying fwd is better... im just saying fwd CAN compete against rwd in a race series (not all)...

Originally Posted by GD3_Wagoon
FR vs MR

im biased... MR!!!! snap oversteer ftw!!! (lol jk)

Originally Posted by GD3_Wagoon
i don't know if F1 counts given all the strict regulations they've got to follow .. this season, they might as well produce the cars for each team then have them race -- i believe in leveling the playing field but c'mon

in most GT racing series, FR/MR/RR cars compete against each other regularly. i thought i'd start up a worthwhile conversation where everyone can teach/learn the advantages and disadvantages of real sports cars instead FWD bashing and calling each other ghey LoL
well thats where the f1 R&D comes in.. then everyone copies each other.. so its not really much of a R&D department comparison.. so eh... ur right.. LOL

Originally Posted by accordguyintake
"how bout we stop all this nonsense and settle this in the STREETS!"

F&F ftw* -End Thread-
F&F FAIL!! woooooooooo!
 

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle is raaddd
i only skimmed through the first page... but... im not biased toward fwd.. im actually biased towards MR..

im just saying there are times FWD can be as fast as RWD... mostly at lower hp... i know you cant put high hp down in fwd, and thats why all the supercars/f1/nascar/etc are rwd...

im just defending something that most people seem not to get... that there ARE FWD race cars... and they compete against RWD cars...
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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Haha I know, I'm not trying to contradict you or anything
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dela
i only skimmed through the first page... but... im not biased toward fwd.. im actually biased towards MR..

im just saying there are times FWD can be as fast as RWD... mostly at lower hp... i know you cant put high hp down in fwd, and thats why all the supercars/f1/nascar/etc are rwd...

im just defending something that most people seem not to get... that there ARE FWD race cars... and they compete against RWD cars...
All the cool peeps know MR is the shiz...

One of my favorite cars is the Clio Sport V6....droolz...

 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle is raaddd
Haha I know, I'm not trying to contradict you or anything
no worries.. sry... didnt mean that to be mean...

Originally Posted by mikejet
All the cool peeps know MR is the shiz...

One of my favorite cars is the Clio Sport V6....droolz...

+1!

one of my all time favs... lancia stratos...
 

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Old Oct 14, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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eww i drove the Clio (in GT4.. haha) that thing is horrible... understeer snap oversteer heaven. and dont get me started on the stupid old-skool RUFs that look super hot
 
Old Oct 14, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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eww i drove the Clio (in GT4.. haha) that thing is horrible... understeer snap oversteer heaven. and dont get me started on the stupid old-skool RUFs that look super hot
The "hairy" Clio's just too damn short, that's why. Not enough wheelbase I think

Autocar UK also complained on both the Mk1 and Mk2 Clio V6es that the steering was pretty numb...they just couldn't "catch" the rear end slipping away
 



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