SHG_Mike, I like the rear discs because IMHO it is easier to swap out the break pads, from daily to track pads. As for the Spoon Fit, I know they use the vented drums and they cost about $650 (sorry I can remember how much it really is or the part number). Since it cost that much, and all it is really is adding vents, I would rather get the rear disk.


P.S You are right with all your breaking power is at the front, and it cant hurt to have more breaking power to the rear to promote a bit more oversteer (or least in theory).

 

Spoon doesnt use any crazy type of drum. Its the same drums that come on the Insight. They are aluminum and have vains to help cool them. DRUMS HAVE MORE BRAKING POWER THEN DISCS! But yes they are easier to swap pad's/shoe's on discs over drums

 

Oh man, I want to put bucket seats on my top 10 list But what to get rid off.... lol

 

Interesting, I always thought disc's had like 20% more stopping power over drums of the same size. Learn something new everyday I guess.

 

To stay in sts class and include the parts I have already, I would say:

1: coilovers
2: Intake
3: header
4: exhaust
5:fender braces
6:sticky tires
7:light ass wheels
8:ss brake lines
9:rear sway bar
10:strut bars

 

Another big advantage of drum brakes is they are much lighter than discs. But in any case I don't think braking is going to be a shortcoming for the Fit in autocross. If it is, just add some good aftermarket pads.

Here's my Top 10 mods for Stock class autocross:

1. Custom-made ultralight wheels (under 9# each) (set of 8, see below).
2. Two sets of R-comp tires, one for dry, one for wet days.
3. Custom Koni double-adjustable shock/strut inserts.
4. Custom front swaybar, adjustable for force and corner-weighting
5. Upgrade all suspension bushings to custom poly or metal
6. Roll bar
7. Full driver harnesses
8. Weight-slashing program (within the rules)
9. Aftermarket brake pads and fluid
10. Replace all fluids with race synthetics

 

^^^+1 Ditto

Most of the events I have attended and would like to attend are Unrestricted. Its for fun...to get it out of your system.
I also recall the initial post saying something like Hypothetical, Unrestricted, and Money no object- Which I think was smart as we got some creative responses. Get them juices flowin

I too thought that disks had more stopping power (but I dunno...so if you say so) I do indeed know that they can be lighter and they are generally closer to the axis of rotation than disks. But I remember most fading way quicker and warping easier, and glazing to within an inch of their lives. The aluminum minifin type always seemed to do quite well though in cars that are lighter (especially in the rear)

 

lol, SnapFit has the idea

Nice list Skimmer, just curious... what brand of fluids would you use?

Yeah I can't bring myself to spend too much cash on the brake system in the Fit (at least in real life), that is why I went with new performance pads all around and SS brakelines instead.

 

I'd probably just use all Red Line stuff, just because they have everything I would need in one place -- though for the Fit that's not asking much. All you really need is tranny and engine. I guess that's not a very exotic mod! So assume fluids get replaced with synthetics during normal maintenance (which I would do anyway) and here's a new #10:

10. Ultralight titanium cat-back exhaust

 

So being this is a unrestricted idea I thought of a autocross project we thought of earlier this year.

Anyway.

1.Big diet first of all.....probably get the fit around 1300-1400#'s (lots of cf)

2. then some 15X10 bogarts in the front and 15X8's in the rear with goodyear auto-X rubber

3. superblue brake fluid and SS lines

4. Moton coil over set-up

5. 2:1 quicksteer

6-10. Ok i am thinking this is going to be an A-mod car. almost anything goes...so.....a built and turbocharged 1000RR (about 400hp) motor and transmission(paddle shifted) in the rear.

No even with all of that it would still get its ass-kicked in A-mod but it would be damn cool now wouldn't it.

 

Koni makes shocks for the fit? I emailed them asking this question and got nothing. Im picking up a fit shortly and plan on running FSP

 

by custom, im guessing he means 1-offs (basically a comissioned set)

anyways, heres my list

1. SSR 15x6 wheels (2 sets)
2. kumho 710s and hoosier r-comps (1 set each mounted)
3. Titanium 1-off catback (maximum weight loss)
4. Fully adjustable shocks/struts (koni, tokico, tein)
5. EDFC or similar electronic adjustment from in the cabin
6. Roll cage (within spec for stock class) with race 5pt belts
7. Several track sessions/schools to improve my own skills
8. Hawk HPS pads/shoes
9. OEM Crash bolts (along with most agressive alignment possible)
10. AMS-Oil and filter (race weight)

easily over 10k in mods, and i would still be in the stock class.

 

Not yet. The word is they are in the works, but won't be available for 12 months. I was thinking of a custom set (a quote I got was around $1400 for parts alone).

See this thread I started a little while ago for more:

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/gaug...tion-koni.html

 

An upgrade lots of people should use!

 

AHEM (sorry I'm being a post *hore atm )

 

then congrats on #100
sorry off topic...
continue...

 

why would you use 15x6 wheels? from my past experience a 15x7 is much better especially when your shopping for tires. 7 inch width gives you more of a selection as for as gripping... right? or am i wrong.. haha

 

What I believe is that it's a battle between weight and traction (for autox, maybe different for tracking). With the thiner wheel aka the 6 incher, you will get the full benefit of lightweight rims and I believe you would have the same traction from the stockers (assume you are still using the stock tires). While on the otherhand, if we were to go to the 7 inch we would get better traction, but the rims won't be as light as the 6 inch (assuming we are using the same kind of rams).

PS thanks Snap Fit

 

If you're running in Stock class, you have no other choice. The rules require wheels that match the stock dimensions and are also within .25" of the stock offset. In the case of the Fit -- as many people have discovered -- this severely limits your options because few lightweight 15x6 wheels are available, especially in anything close to the huge stock offset (55mm).

If you're going to try and compete in ST or Street Mod, you have a lot more choices. I believe in ST you are allowed no more than a 7" width, but I think you can use any offset and you might want to even use a 14" diameter to give the Fit a little gearing benefit (and an even lighter wheel).

 

i see as for as the stock class goes, but when you say the 6 inch wheel will be lighter isnt the 1inch width wider more beneficial since 1 it wont be a lot more heavier and you gain more traction. I dont know to me it seems that the little weight reduction you get in a 6inch width rim is not worth it if you cant put it on the ground. I dont know though.. haha


Also.... i think i should read this section more b.c theres more tech talk haha which i like. I learn new things more from this section than aanything else haha and thanks slimjim for explaining that to me.