I hate Drive By Wire.. any idea to improve DBW?
#1
I hate Drive By Wire.. any idea to improve DBW?
sorry if it's been posted before.. I tried the search but doesn't return anything.
got 100 Miles on my new SSM Fit Today..
and so when I got back home, I jumped back to my 94 Civic SI.. oh boy what a difference..
I hate DBW.. I want wide open throttle when I want it and the FIT computer is too slow to know that I want it NOW!!..
*sigh*
now.. is anyone feel the same like I do?
yeah yeah.. Fit is not designed for racing..bla2.. but I somehow feel that this DBW "disconnect" the car and the driver.
Hopefully I'll learn to adapt to this DBW..
got 100 Miles on my new SSM Fit Today..
and so when I got back home, I jumped back to my 94 Civic SI.. oh boy what a difference..
I hate DBW.. I want wide open throttle when I want it and the FIT computer is too slow to know that I want it NOW!!..
*sigh*
now.. is anyone feel the same like I do?
yeah yeah.. Fit is not designed for racing..bla2.. but I somehow feel that this DBW "disconnect" the car and the driver.
Hopefully I'll learn to adapt to this DBW..
#3
I once had to replace a broken throttle wire with a guitar string on a road trip (we refer to those days as the dark age). At least that won't ever happen with the Fit See, always look at the bright side!
#6
That's intentional... it does that to reduce emissions. The throttle stays open for a fraction of a second to make sure all fuel gets burned. If the throttle slammed shut instantly, there would be a little bit of fuel pumped out the tailpipe.
#7
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The only thing I dont like about it is the response, guessing thats everyones problem.
If you rev the Fit and then get right back on it as the RPMs are falling my car chokes. If actually got it to stop revving completely for about a second or 2. You could smell the fuel also.
If you rev the Fit and then get right back on it as the RPMs are falling my car chokes. If actually got it to stop revving completely for about a second or 2. You could smell the fuel also.
#8
so that's it?...
no smooth driving for the Fit?
The throttle seemed to over-rev a little when I let go the gas pedal and shift the gear..
Spoon Japan race this car, I'm sure they feel this too.. I can't believe there's no cure.
no smooth driving for the Fit?
The throttle seemed to over-rev a little when I let go the gas pedal and shift the gear..
Spoon Japan race this car, I'm sure they feel this too.. I can't believe there's no cure.
#9
so that's it? *sigh*..
let go of the throttle a little before shifting? umm.. I'll try that..
but that means I can't really play that close to the rev-limiter..
hmmpff...
#11
Not true. It has nothing to do with where you shift, but instead your timing when you shift. You're just going to have to drive the car more to get used to it. It took about a month or two before it became really second nature for me, but it'll come.
Also, there is nothing in the DBW itself that should be preventing you from driving the car hard and well. I had no problems w/ it when I autocrossed the car -- response was precise and the car responded to throttle inputs accurately and immediately. Running to redline was never an issue. Trust me, you'll get used to it in time.
#12
Timing? can you ellaborate?
say you're really2 close to the rev limiter, what do you do 1st? let go the throttle, then hit the clutch? or do at the same time?
I usually let go the throttle, hit the clutch, quick-shift and re-press the throttle...
the problem with DBW is that when I let go the throttle, it act as if I'm still pressing it on while I already let it go, revving the engine a little while I do the shift. The extra rev makes it as if I can't drive manual
No problem with daily driving.. but the extra rev is just annoying..
I'm sure I'll adapt to the FIT in time like you said...
say you're really2 close to the rev limiter, what do you do 1st? let go the throttle, then hit the clutch? or do at the same time?
I usually let go the throttle, hit the clutch, quick-shift and re-press the throttle...
the problem with DBW is that when I let go the throttle, it act as if I'm still pressing it on while I already let it go, revving the engine a little while I do the shift. The extra rev makes it as if I can't drive manual
No problem with daily driving.. but the extra rev is just annoying..
I'm sure I'll adapt to the FIT in time like you said...
#13
Timing? can you ellaborate?
say you're really2 close to the rev limiter, what do you do 1st? let go the throttle, then hit the clutch? or do at the same time?
I usually let go the throttle, hit the clutch, quick-shift and re-press the throttle...
the problem with DBW is that when I let go the throttle, it act as if I'm still pressing it on while I already let it go, revving the engine a little while I do the shift. The extra rev makes it as if I can't drive manual
No problem with daily driving.. but the extra rev is just annoying..
I'm sure I'll adapt to the FIT in time like you said...
say you're really2 close to the rev limiter, what do you do 1st? let go the throttle, then hit the clutch? or do at the same time?
I usually let go the throttle, hit the clutch, quick-shift and re-press the throttle...
the problem with DBW is that when I let go the throttle, it act as if I'm still pressing it on while I already let it go, revving the engine a little while I do the shift. The extra rev makes it as if I can't drive manual
No problem with daily driving.. but the extra rev is just annoying..
I'm sure I'll adapt to the FIT in time like you said...
BTW, I'm in Western PA too (New Castle). You should come out to the autocross practice at BeaveRun this coming Wed. on the 4th of July. They're running from 10a-4p, it's only $35 to run the whole session, and you will get LOTS of timed runs in in a very casual, fun atmosphere. It's probably 40 mins away from you at most, probably less. I'm planning on going myself barring rain or super-hot weather, would be cool to see another Fit owner there. http://www.beaverun.com/thrills_autocross.htm
#14
But all the regular crowds that I know are already moved out of the area.. I'm sure Mike from SpeedNation still around though..
I kinda stopped racing after I let my ITR go..
and I personally like Track-days than the Auto-X somehow..
(and BeaveRun track is a blast! )
does your Fit win any trophies at Auto-X yet?
#15
No trophies yet either I've only been able to make the casual autox they run and I'm like the only Fit in a field of STI's, RSX's, Mustang's, etc., plus there's no competition per se -- you just run the course, get a time and get back in line. Hopefully, I'll try an SCCA event before the summer's up, but with only the stock tires for now, I'm not expecting much. Still, you oughtta come out anyway just to toss the Fit around a bit and see how it feels. You'll probably like it, it's a fun little car overall.
#16
Timing? can you ellaborate?
say you're really2 close to the rev limiter, what do you do 1st? let go the throttle, then hit the clutch? or do at the same time?
I usually let go the throttle, hit the clutch, quick-shift and re-press the throttle...
the problem with DBW is that when I let go the throttle, it act as if I'm still pressing it on while I already let it go, revving the engine a little while I do the shift. The extra rev makes it as if I can't drive manual
No problem with daily driving.. but the extra rev is just annoying..
I'm sure I'll adapt to the FIT in time like you said...
say you're really2 close to the rev limiter, what do you do 1st? let go the throttle, then hit the clutch? or do at the same time?
I usually let go the throttle, hit the clutch, quick-shift and re-press the throttle...
the problem with DBW is that when I let go the throttle, it act as if I'm still pressing it on while I already let it go, revving the engine a little while I do the shift. The extra rev makes it as if I can't drive manual
No problem with daily driving.. but the extra rev is just annoying..
I'm sure I'll adapt to the FIT in time like you said...
~Peace
#17
as of now i do not think there is any way to flash, chip,etc. the ecu to change the response. BUt you can do whay most tsx/k24 guys do is guys pull out the tb, cables and all and replace it with a normal tb. and it should not affect anything related to the fuel system.
#18
The only thing I dont like about it is the response, guessing thats everyones problem.
If you rev the Fit and then get right back on it as the RPMs are falling my car chokes. If actually got it to stop revving completely for about a second or 2. You could smell the fuel also.
If you rev the Fit and then get right back on it as the RPMs are falling my car chokes. If actually got it to stop revving completely for about a second or 2. You could smell the fuel also.