haha, no e-thuggin' from me, I know that theres no way that the motor and tranny would fit. I was just thinkin' how awesome it would be to have that setup. i'll just leave quietly now

 

You can spend about 4k or so on a turbo kit that will give you around 160-180whp (give or take) which is plenty. Like having a gsr/type r swap. (Unless I read the hp gains on the turbo kits out there).

Now if your looking K-series you need to know a few things first. K-series swap engine is around 4k+, then figure you need kpro (about another grand), then axles, mounts, a header, exhaust...hell your spending an awful lot. Not to mention the best part. No one has fully released how you even get the motor started in a fit yet. Hasport and others haven't released anything other than a mount kit. There is a user on this forum who has been trying to get his k20 going and its been awhile. Not as simple as buying a b-series, buying a conversion harness and plugging it all in and turning a key.


Either way I see the less hassle and great gains by a turbo L-series. Personally I am a all-motor guy and Im just doing NA mods to mine. Get good gas mileage and has some pep. Probly doesn't help that I got a crx on the side with a k24 to please my HP needs.

 

until more mods come out for the l15, i'd say turboing or supercharing would def be the way to go.


the k series just seems to be to much of a hassle, and really really expensive.

 

A good comparison would be the d-series engine. There are plenty of guys getting up to 300hp out of those. They aren't weaky motors.

 

or if you want a k20 that bad might as well trade your fit the civic SI... it would save you a lot of money on the swap...

 

I'll tell you after I ride in "gettinafit's" K20 Fit and after I FI my 1.5L

 

i second zangoose, assuming that you have a little bit of equity on your fit, trading it in for a si would make more sense, especially since a k swap would run you almost half of the si's msrp anyway.


one thing that you have to remember is unlike slapping an integra type r enigne in a hatch, or throwing a jdm h22 in an accord, the k series is not from a line of vehicles that underpins the fits engine bay. You could look at an older civic underhood and just see all the space ther, but the fit is a different story. (and before its said, yeah i know, there a good amount of h22 civic drivers, i'm just speaking theortically.)

Besides, i wouldn't want to loose my fits nimbleness in the process of a swap. i still say turbo or supercharing is the way to go.

 

why buy a fit if your a HP freak... Honda Fit and Hp doesn't not go together..

just enjoy that little 1.5 motor and for daily driver capability/reliability...
i
f you want HP get a supra/F body Trans am/K swap or what ever
my friend has a turbo charged trans am and makes killer hp around 1000whp and you can pick that out for cheap now a day and juice the crap out of it... its a waste of money just to make 60hp turbo kit... power to $$ isn't efficient...

like they alway say "there is not replacement for displacement" and don't give me "boost is the replacement cause they can play that game too" just my opinion

 

meh...not to bring up a really old thread. but, yeah its not money effiecient. but most of us are doing it as a project daily driver.
my buddy owns a single cam prelude making 400whp at 2000rpms. smoked a turbo ls1 camaro. for only 5 grand with the car.

meh, yeah im looking for extra power, so when i roll up to someone at the track, and say i have a 1.5 liter and burn them. at the end of the track, seeing the mouth dropped from a guy with a v6 or even v8 at that maybe...will be worth all the money i spent making my little car fast.
considering its what the top 5 slowest cars on the market today?

 

"...my buddy owns a single cam prelude making 400whp at 2000rpms."

woah, do you have a dynograph/mod list of this insane setup?

 

its very hard to believe... do you have any dyno graphs of this beast... i doubt he would beat my friends turbo ls1... to achieve that number at low rpm without the turbo spooling at average of 4000rpm i have to call bullshit on your story my friend...

 

you and me both...

 

shit let me get him to give me a dyno graph.


come to san diego, ask anyone at the fusion racing scene. that the ls1 turbo camaro got smoked by the turbo single cam prelude.

heh a single came turbo with the dsm set up.
its only a 16g that he ran, so it doesnt take long to make power.


but ill find the dynos if he dyno'd it.





ive seen the car in person before it got jacked.

 

Uh...no. You said your buddy has a 16G from a DSM? All the DSM 16Gs have TD05 compressor and exhaust housings. For a 16G to make that much horsepower it wouldn't realize full boost until at least 3750RPMs. I'm honestly not sure the limit of the 16Gs, but the most I've seen was 350hp. What you're suggesting is this turbo not only makes its peak power pretty much off-idle, but then holds that 400whp all the way to redline. I've NEVER seen any forced induction system (or engine for that matter) make its peak power off-idle and then hold it in a straight flat horizontal line all the way down the dyno graph with no increase hp as the RPMs increase. Now, I've seen engines that make peak power further up the powerband and hold that power, but they were almost always factory Hondas, and they held power for about 300-800RPMs before dropping off.

So I'm guessing your buddy does own a 400 crank hp single cam Prelude, that has a 16G, but it's probably making it's power somewhere around 7000RPM, if not higher. A 400whp car is probably around 460ish at the crank, given the drivetrain loss (I went 15% for the heck of it), which means, it's more than likely not using a 16G. I don't even think Evos make that much power before the turbo's maxed out.

 

man i wish someone out there came out with new cam gears and cam shafts for this car...does anyone know any companies working on internals for the fit?

 

I'd say supercharge, then better final gear (this car isn't gonna go 140mph, let's face it) and you'll be pretty set until some internals come about.

 

as a tuner and you like to make the fit move...
b or k series swap.... now you have an awesome power plant to work from... if you shorten the final gear... you will def not hit 140

im sure k swaps has been done and have been tearing frames due to week welds on mounts??

to make power = more cyl pressure
to make more cyl press = boost
are cyl was is probably the size of a 12 oz can in dia...

i cant state this enough... you cant replace displacement...
i hate when they say well boost replaces this displacement...
we can play that game too lol
but i dont drag race... road/auto x race myself

 

ofcourse i knew this was coming... oooooo i seen it before it got jacked
you dont know much about cars...im sure your friend has dyno sheets..
if he doesnt have it....go back to his tuner shop and they defently would hold/save that graph ... especially with a 400hp at 2000rpm

if you are building a fast car... money isnt an issue...
you need to start with best power plant....
you dont see any funny cars/top fuelers with v6 motors to prove anything
screw that.. im starting with the biggest motor i have then work around it
its about the foundation then the detail

 

YouTube - Civic Si Turbo vs Built Trans am
YouTube - Trans Am vs Civic
YouTube - Civic EK vs Trans Am LS1
YouTube - 2000 TRANS AM TWIN TURBO LS1 .... lol this one is crazy...
YouTube - Twin Turbo Trans-Am vs. FZR1000

 

yeah....it did get jacked, and no longer owns the vehicle. but im glad you saw that coming, because of course here in san diego, the people that race normally get there shit jacked. since you know everyones out to prove whos fastest, so they get known and everything.

im not out to prove anything. i was just stating about what he told me about the car.and what ive seen it race.

but did you say as a "tuner" for the fit to move, do a k swap/ B swap?

why would anybody want to put a b series motor. i guess if your that hardcore about b series then yeah thats alot of work. more work and money i would think then a k series. since i dont think anyone has parts out for the b swap.


that was a nice video though. i give mad props to whoever built it.


i know i dont know much about cars and motor work. im learning just like everyone else. and i appreciate the comments.



but when a f22 SMOKES a ls1 motor. thats freakin awesome. especially when the single cam was stock.