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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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grounding kit points

going to make my own but just wanted to know where the manufactures recommended to ground it to so i can get a better idea..or if anyone else knows
 
Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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Vtec Solinoid, Intake Manifold, Frame and like Engine Block I think. I have the T1R Kit and its overpriced IMO. Good luck on the DIY.
 
Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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you think you can post pics of those locations ...and ill make a diy with some pics
 
Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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i dont know where the vtech Solenoid is
 
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What is the reasoning behind grounding the Vtec soleniod???? And the PLASTIC intake manifold???
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:13 AM
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Just ground it on the chassis and engine block.

A grounding kit doesn't make a huge difference in the real world, so ground say 5 points on the chassis around the engine bay and say 1 on the engine block.

Obviously make sure the cable doesn't interfer with things like the belts, fan or any moving parts. And check that the cables you're going to use ok for the heat around the engine.
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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good looking out.. i will post updates
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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What is the reasoning behind grounding the Vtec soleniod???? And the PLASTIC intake manifold???
The intake manifold is part plastic, part cast aluminum.
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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if anyone has actuall pics of where to ground it that would help out alot ... and i need to check to see if i have any heat resisstant monster wire
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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The intake manifold is part plastic, part cast aluminum.

And the aluminum part is a dead ground to the block??? And has nothing in it that needs a ground the DBWTB has it's own internal ground wire and so does the MAP sensor so what on earth (pun intended) would you be grounding???

And to help you remember NOT ALL MEMBERS HAVE USDM FITS. We have international members with an ALL PLASTIC intake manifold so lets not forget them.
 

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The Vtec solenoid on a Jazz/Fit is an electro-mechanical on/off switch ONLY. If it is activating the Vtec pin it is working. Any solenoid is only a switching device and is energized or not there is no partially on, or on a little bit it's either on or off no middle ground.

So there is absolutely NOTHING to be gained by grounding it MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS. It can't get any better it's already bolted directly to the head and it's bolts screw directly into the block and that folks is a dead short right to the engine block ...... can't get any better than that.


Any extra wiring applied to the Vtec solenoid is for BLING ONLY no other reason for it.
 
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i guess i can just make one and see if i can find some good points
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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The factory points have been engineered to death to find the best points so your best move if you just have to do SOMETHING is remove the factory ground wires and redo them in a heavier gauge bling wire.
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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if i where to do that ... no bling... just black or loom..
 
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Originally Posted by claymore
The factory points have been engineered to death to find the best points so your best move if you just have to do SOMETHING is remove the factory ground wires and redo them in a heavier gauge bling wire.
Theres normally only a few grounding points on hondas, on some cars there may only be one. This is normally not quite enough if you're trying to get as much juice back as possible.

If you're that concerned with getting the best points, tap a voltage/current meter between the battery terminal and all your proposed mounting points and see which ones are best. But to be honest, this is pretty pointless as even if you get 100% efficiency out of it (impossible) you wouldn't really feel any difference.

As I said above, mount 5 on chassis, 1 on engine block, job done.
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:21 AM
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Your forgetting that the Jazz/Fit already HAS all the grounds you mentioned. Why add more??? Job already DONE BY HONDA!
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 05:45 AM
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Your forgetting that the Jazz/Fit already HAS all the grounds you mentioned. Why add more??? Job already DONE BY HONDA!
Why add more? Well, firstly as I said, its not going to make much difference either way. However, if your intention is to get as much out of it as possible then adding more grounding points would theoretically reduce the resistance in your circuit and hence give you that little bit more.

I've done this on my EP3-R and you can feel a slight difference but its nothing to write home about.
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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i dont want it for performance i juts want to get my headlights from stop dimming when i role down my windows
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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i dont want it for performance i juts want to get my headlights from stop dimming when i role down my windows
Doesn't matter. You can't "tune" a grounding kit to just stop the dimming of your headlights.

Do you know what a grounding kit actually does?

Theres no way you will completely stop the dimming of your headlights when you use another power hungry device at the same time. A grounding kit would probably only reduce the effect by may be 1%??? - i.e. hardly noticeable.

The grounding kit I have on my civic also has a capacitor pack which is supposed to be better than just the grounding cables. But hand on heart, there is virtually no difference whatsoever.
 
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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yeah i had a conversation about it earlier today with some more experienced guys and there is nothing i can do so stop it other then getting a bigger battery or giving everything its own battery... so screw it...
 



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