Hey all, ive been sitting and thinking alot lately... dangerous i know. And ive been wondering how much people have pushed out of the fit. as far as hp and torque numbers, with stock internals, how much they can handle. where the weak links are. I know the D16 motors would go 250hp usually before internals and then you could make quite a bit with them. are the L15s pretty similar in that regard? or has no one really tried going that far with them? If i missed all this info somewhere just point me to it! thanks!

 

Search threads by Lyon_Nightroad and DiamondStarMonsters.

 

The weak link so far is no body can really test the limits being that there is currently no real Tuning Solutions for this vehicle/engine.

 

GD3kamiwanaB found the limits of the GD's L15 by blowing a hole out of the side of his.

I don't remember where he was as far as power levels, nor much about his setup at all.

 

Wasn't he the one that was bored out to 1.6 and turbo'd? He was in a magazine, I don't recall which one...

 

This info is on here just not in detail any more.

100% FALSE

For the GD3 you have the Hondata FlashPro which is capable of supporting just about anything, including different MAP sensors for up to 40 psi.

Now there is also a harness from Boomslang for the GE's to use the AEM F/IC-6. It's more than capable for tuning a boosted application.

The main limitations of the engine internals are the rods, especially the bolts. Several folks out there are running 160-180whp though on stock internals on the GD. GE's have slightly better internals, but I don't have as much info. For that you will have to look up Lyon_Nightroad as he has the best fully documented GE turbo build.

Remember there are A LOT of factors that go into a turbo build. NA builds are few and far between, as even trying to squeeze 130 whp or so out of the L15A1 in the GD would take as much if not more $ than a home brew turbo setup.

 

Ok thats pretty much what i wanted to know. im just kinda curious if the bolt on turbo kits are worth it when you tune them and have some other mods. and what the breaking point of the motor is.

 

Well the bolt on turbo kits are getting harder and harder to come by these days. But, as an example I know of one setup based on the Greddy kit + injectors and pump tuned on Flashpro that makes 180+ whp at around 9 psi on all stock internals

 

Still, the Wiseco drop in standard bore pistons and K1 rods with ARP bolts plus proper fueling and a decent turbo will go a LONG way. Then you will need a clutch and LSD :P

 

mmmmm intriguing.....

 

Look up kelsoseez. Probably the best documented boosted fit pushing the limits safely and I believe he hit 185hp at church automotive.

GD3kamiwanabe ran a gt28 and blew his motor at 220whp. That was his last figure if I remember right before he bored it out to 1.6L, added more boost and made ~260whp before parting out and disappearing. I don't believe he has a dyno plot for that either.

Also search Felix69 since he has a "turbo fit" thread listing most of the boosted guys whether T1R, HKS, Greddy, or home built. There are some good ideas there.

 

A few guys on here were hitting over 200HP on the Kraftwerks kits. That was with stock internals too.

 

Can you still get those kits anywhere or are we down to just T1R and Greddy turbos for bolt ons?

 

I think they were all discontinued. Even the T1R and Greddy, at least they were a year and a half ago when I was looking. You can get a manifold off of eBay and piece a kit together or I think there were one or two kit on here for sale.

 

I squeezed 117hp with less than $1500USD into my 2007 GD3 base. Free cold air intake from AEM, DC Sports headers, Megan Racing catless downpipe and midpipe finished by a Tanabe Medallion axle-back. Throw in a FlashPro and Ultimate Tube from Vit Viper and grand total is probably less than $1500. I could be wrong, but I just threw money at it and tried not to remember how much.

Also, the KraftWerks supercharger kits have been discontinued and as of August of last year they only had one left. That is not to say though that other companies won't have an extra kit or two laying around that they haven't been able to move yet.

As far as limitations go, search for the dyno sheet thread. There you can see what set-ups will produce what kind of numbers.

 

117 WHP or 117 HP? What is a Ultimate tube?

I haven't re-dynoed since the axle back and IK22 plugs but with all my other mods (I/H/DP) and Hondata flash pro I only got 102 WHP.

 

Td04 turbo on 0.6bar/8.7psi. 126.6wkw and 229wnm/ 170whp and 169 ft lb

I'd strongly recommend an LSD and very sticky tyres at this power level.

 

117whp. Sorry, I was typing on my phone and the "b" is too close to the "n" so I hit it by mistake sometimes. It should be "Ultimate Tune". See FlashPro Tunes for Honda and Acura | VitTuned Flashpro, KPro & S300 Tuning for more information.