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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by eeeeeha
And I still have my base shoes and wheels w 500 miles on them and nobody even wants the tyres or the wheels: too skinny and 14 in.


How much so you want for them?
Are you asking yourself? Cause that's what it looks like.
 
Old Nov 28, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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eeeeeha: yeah, me too... seems such a waste doesn't it?!
 
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:50 AM
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testing odometer

Originally Posted by docjim2
Recently checked out the accuracy of my speedometer and found it remarkably accurate.

How did you confirm/test this? I know in Cali they used to have little signs on the side of Highway 5 that would mark mile 0, mile 1, mile 2, and you can check your tripometer/odometer against that (so you should hit the same tenth mark at every sign). But the signs aren't there anymore (this was at least 10 years ago). And if you were patient enough to go 60 miles per hour you should do each mile in exactly one minute- that way you can actually test your speedometer as well.
 
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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At least that is what my iWay 350c tells me... my GPS that tracks 12 sattelites and has a trip and speedometer function... supposed to be accurate
 
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Hmmm, my odometer seems to be off by about 2.5%. The article says that it will cover cars sold till nov 7th. I got mine on nov 24th, does that mean I'm out of luck?
 
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Hmmm, my odometer seems to be off by about 2.5%. The article says that it will cover cars sold till nov 7th. I got mine on nov 24th, does that mean I'm out of luck?
It most likely means that cars made/sold after this date have an engineering change rolled into the production that fixes the problem. I wouldn't worry about it.

How do you figure a 2.5% difference from actual miles?
 

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sonorliteman
It most likely means that cars made/sold after this date have an engineering change rolled into the production that fixes the problem. I wouldn't worry about it.

How do you figure a 2.5% difference from actual miles?
I figured the difference using mile markers on local highways. I did 3 10 mile tests and at the end of each my odometer read 10.2, I say 2.5 because it read 10.2 for a few hundred feet before the sign.

If anybody is interested in filing a claim under the settlement you can go to http://www.hondaodometerclassaction.com/.

I e-mailed the class councel about my problem (bought the vehicle after the cutoff date) and he said they had been contacted by other recent Fit owners who also have the issue. I may have to contact Honda Motor Co directly to have the problem resolved.
 
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Thanks for the link. I bought my Fit so near to the cutoff date that I will need clarification, too. I ordered it before the cutoff and had a VIN at that time (from the dealer's website), but I didn't take delivery until the end of Novemeber. How would Honda have known when my car would be sold? I'm wondering if Honda considered it "sold" as soon as its VIN was sent to the dealer who was designated to take delivery. I sure wish they had based it on VINs.
 
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Well maybe this explains why I'm only getting 25-27 mpg. I purchased my Fit Sport on Nov 6th. hmm...
 
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Well maybe this explains why I'm only getting 25-27 mpg. I purchased my Fit Sport on Nov 6th. hmm...
I really hate to bust your bubble on that but if it says that you're going say 61 while really you're only going 60 then your mpg is even worse not better.

It's saying your going farther on the fuel you used than you really went.

It would be interesting to find out if the ones that the odometer is off on are the base models or not. I suspect it is since they have smaller tires which means more revolutions to go the same distance.

Sport tires are 195/55 15's
Base tires are 175/65 14's.

195/55 15 = 23.44 inch diameter (Circumference = 1868 mm (73.5'')) = 861.4 revolutions per mile.
175/65 14 = 22.95 inch diameter (Circumference = 1834 mm (72.2'')) = 877.6 revolutions per mile.

I've checked my sport model against my GPS and it is extremely close if not right on.
 

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Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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Bad Odometer

Hi !

Did you ever test your odometer ?? Mine, on my fit sport with 195/55/15 winter tires (same spec than original), there is a 2.5% difference between my odometer's value and the real value. I mean, for every 100 mi, my odometer show 102,5 mi.

I tested it three times using different road and using highways bornes. Each time with 20 mi of distance (i got 20,5 miles).

The distance is overevaluated. Then, we cannot explain the difference by the fact that winter tire could be little bigger.

I would need bigger tire (that would do less revolutions for the same distance), to get an accurate value.

What do you think of that ??
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Car and Driver did a speedo/odo test a few years ago and found that stuff was generally out by 4%(ish) and they even found some cars as much as 10% out. It is pretty common.
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Check out this thread, there are lots of Fit owners (and other Honda owners) with this problem. If you got your Fit before Nov 9th you may be in store for some compensation (extended warrenty and other things I think).
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Has anybody taken this up at their local dealer and hear any promising results? Id like to see what they have to say about his.. maybe they can give us some money since by the time we goto sell the car it will be off a few 100 miles and could cause us to lose money we shouldn't be losing!
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 2hot6ft2
It would be interesting to find out if the ones that the odometer is off on are the base models or not. I suspect it is since they have smaller tires which means more revolutions to go the same distance.

I know the sport tires are 195/55 15's but I don't know the base models tire size off hand to calculate the difference.

195/55 15 = 23.44 inch diameter (Circumference = 1868 mm (73.5'')) = 861.4 revolutions per mile.

I've checked my sport model against my GPS and it is extremely close if not right on.
I don't think it has anything to do with base/sport or tire size. I have a sport and I am off, but you have a sport and you're not. I think it is a variance in odometer calibration (not speedometer) that occurs accross all honda models/trims evenly.
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Looks like that settles whether or not it's just the base models that are off. That makes at least 1 sport.
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bennet Pullen
I don't think it has anything to do with base/sport or tire size. I have a sport and I am off, but you have a sport and you're not. I think it is a variance in odometer calibration (not speedometer) that occurs accross all honda models/trims evenly.
Yeah, I just saw another post that was also a sport that is off. Perhaps it's in the ECU (just speculating). That would explain a couple things like the odometer and the poor mpg some are getting.

I said it before that it would be interesting to see if re-flashing one ECU with the data from another that was accurate or getting good mpg would make a difference.

Say there were 10 lines producing ECU's and 1 was programing it with the wrong revolutions per mile making all those odometers off and another programing them with data that caused poor mpg.

Guess we'll never know but it's a thought.
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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Well, we may find out, because according to the settlement it has to be fixed on 2008 Fits I think.
 
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Somehow I doubt that they'll be telling us what the cause is since that may prompt a recall at their expense.
 
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Odometers

Inaccurate odometer readings is not a surprise to me, and I think it's been an issue on many cars for many years. In fact, I owned two near identical Chevey Luminas ('95 and '97 models), and the odometers were nowhere close to each other. Since I was using one for business at the time, and accurate mileage logs were required for tax reporting, I had the dealer inspect and replace the odometer on the newer Lumina, and then the margin of error was much less.

Also, on a recent mulitiple vehicle road test on a Canadian show called Driving Televison (FYI: show's videos available on the web site at Driving.ca), they reported a number of discrepancies between the odometers of the tested cars, which included Honda, Totyota, etc. They plan to devote more time to this subject in a future show -- hopefully soon.

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