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Old May 18, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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First of all there are three (3) issues that seperate between your installation and mine:1.i bought mine direct from VERTEX RACING and not on E-BAY.2.My installation is a C- PILLAR BAR not a REAR STRUT BAR.3.No Fitment Issue to me means no cutting,no drilling,no welding,no additional parts needed to install the product,however if you consider adjusting the product as a major issue in FITMENT then that is YOU,As i look in your STRUT BAR it looks 2 inches shorter on both side am i right?Mine too but not about 2 inches,I can say about 1/2 inch,for me its NO BIG DEAL,i just adjust it because the bar is adjustable,and after i adjust it i just tighten it with adjustable wrench. Heres some pictures and i will let the members decide if HALF INCH (1/2) SHORT on both side is considered a FITMENT ISSUE.
LMAO, so you're saying I installed it in the wrong place.. I always thought those were clothes hangers when they were up there.

I thought a C-Pillar Bar was a Rear Strut Bar. Obviously where you have it there wouldn't be a fitment issue since it wouldn't be at the end of the threads.

Never installed one of these before. Guess I'm not alone in thinking it went on the struts since I've seen posts where people want to know if it interferes with the seat adjustments.

Thanks for setting me straight. I'll move mine tomorrow. Now that I look like a total idiot I'll leave you with these words.... Nice write up.
 
Old May 18, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Youre welcome 2hot6ft2!
 
Old May 18, 2007 | 11:39 PM
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Found the one that made me think it was for the struts. Just so you can see where I got that idea. eBay Motors: 41.7" JDM C-Pillar Low Tie Strut Bar For Rear Interior (item 180118870549 end time May-20-07 15:44:57 PDT)

WHERE INSTALLED: In the back of under rear window

Sure looks the same to me.

Enlighten me a little here. Wouldn't it be better to tie the struts together or is there a benefit I'm not seeing in putting it above the windows?
 
Old May 19, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Found the one that made me think it was for the struts. Just so you can see where I got that idea. eBay Motors: 41.7" JDM C-Pillar Low Tie Strut Bar For Rear Interior (item 180118870549 end time May-20-07 15:44:57 PDT)

WHERE INSTALLED: In the back of under rear window

Sure looks the same to me.


Enlighten me a little here. Wouldn't it be better to tie the struts together or is there a benefit I'm not seeing in putting it above the windows?
To: 2hot6ft2,Before you buy any parts make sure that its for HONDA FIT,I never saw the word HONDA FIT,It only says 41.7 inches or 106 cm JDM C-PILLAR BAR,do you know the exact measurement? have you measure the distance from one side to the other side? These are some factors that you will consider before you buy this item because it doesnt say HONDA FIT, Second im a FRUGAL SHOPPER but never in my whole life that i bought ANY PARTS IN MY CAR AT E-BAY,Just because its says JDM does'nt meant it will fit, right?just my $0.01
 

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Old May 19, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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I would so get that, but I would much rather have Tanabe, not because of quality but becuase it wouldnt look right to have something like that next to my anodized red tanabe strut bar
 
Old May 19, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by boyetssilverfit
To: 2hot6ft2,Before you buy any parts make sure that its for HONDA FIT,I never saw the word HONDA FIT,It only says 41.7 inches or 106 cm JDM C-PILLAR BAR,do you know the exact measurement? have you measure the distance from one side to the other side? These are some factors that you will consider before you buy this item because it doesnt say HONDA FIT, Second im a FRUGAL SHOPPER but never in my whole life that i bought ANY PARTS IN MY CAR AT E-BAY,Just because its says JDM does'nt meant it will fit, right?just my $0.01
Yeah, I have the Vertex same as you. I found that while searching for C-Pillar Bars and as conflicting and confusing their listing is it refers to it as a strut tie bar. I have also seen rear strut bars for the Civic that look the same as the C-Pillar Bar which just added to my confusion on the install.

I measured the rear struts and it was 44 1/4" across which eliminated that one as an option anyway. From the 2 seatbelt bolts above the windows it's 42 1/4" so it may well work for that. So there's the 2" more I "thought" the Vertex should have had.

You definitely have to pay close attention to those on eBay and use some sense. I saw an intake on there just the other day which is listed as being for the Fit and it was clear to me that there was absolutely no way it would fit the USDM Fit. Matter of fact here it is. eBay Motors: 2007 Honda Fit Air Intake System 07 sport jdm (item 130115022032 end time May-24-07 11:44:12 PDT)

I made my own intake so I wasn't looking for one but noticed the design was wrong.

I also saw front strut bars that have Spoon on them but there are 2 different shapes and the spoon site doesn't show either one. I don't buy anything just because it has a name on it be it JDM, Mugen or anything else.

sLiVeRwOrM, lol. I work at a plating company so I could just take them and have them both anodized so they would be the same color as opposed to trying to match the Tanabes color. Just had to throw that in...

I know that the C-Pillar Bar is to help reduce body flexing while cornering. Yet for handling wouldn't it be more beneficial to have the struts tied together?
 
Old May 19, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Like i post before,Each one of us has a degree of satisfaction on how much the car can handle,right now im satisfied with my C-pilar bar and rear anti sway bar combination,i aint racing my car,i just want improvement on handling & stability ,if youre racing the car and you think the front & rear struts will help to handle better then its youre call,but if you just use the car as a daily driver do you really need it ?also consider that every bar that you add is additional weight,I wish that every vendor that sells bar tells us how much the bar weight.Good luck
 
Old May 19, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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I'm not racing mine either just like to have the handling there if I want to get crazy with it. Anyway, now I know where it's supposed to go. Thanks
 
Old May 25, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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? For All C-Pillar Bar Owners

Apologies if this has already been discussed. I'm looking to purchase the J's Racing C-Pillar Bar, but I'm concerned about how it affects the rear seat headroom. Does your head hit the bar when you sit back there (in the recline and non-recline positions)? Also, have you had any issues getting tall/big items in the cargo area beacause of the bar? Any and all comments are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
Old May 25, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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I haven't had any problems like that. I'll try to get some pics to show you.
 
Old May 25, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Also check out VERTEX c-pillar bar on this thread,theres some pictures on that to give you an idea how it look like after you install it.
 
Old May 25, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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it wont affect any rear passenger head room. Also it sits so high up there will be virtually no cargo area lost.
 
Old May 25, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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The Bar sits a little behind the rear seats, not directly above them. It bolts to where the rear seat belts bolt up to, between the two rear quarter windows. So unless your rear passengers are in the hatch and are tall enough that their heads touch the roof , then there will be no issues regarding rear passenger headroom.

Regarding cargo space, like Chris said, you really won't be missing any space.
 

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Old May 25, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Thanks everyone for the quick feedback! Time to purchase the bar...
 
Old May 25, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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people in the back seat probably wont even notice it unless you point it out to them.
 
Old May 30, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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So what does anyone here think that the high C-pillar bar actually does, from an engineering perspective. I know that strut bars keep the top of the struts from flexing outwards in hard cornering situations, but is there much movement between the rear seatbelt upper mounting points?

I'm just curious...

Eric
 

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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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I would think the C-pillar bar keeps the unibody structure from flexing during hard cornering. Because it's a unibody chassis, there are more flex points than just the strut towers. However, I am not an engineer.
 
Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark
I would think the C-pillar bar keeps the unibody structure from flexing during hard cornering. Because it's a unibody chassis, there are more flex points than just the strut towers. However, I am not an engineer.

With a solid rear axel tho? Makes sense on an IRS car......but on this one?
 
Old Sep 9, 2007 | 05:58 AM
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With a solid rear axel tho? Makes sense on an IRS car......but on this one?
Well here's my understanding of the effects of the bar:



- The rect. structure represents the chassis of the car (from the floor to the roof.)

- The suspension of the car will have a dampening effect on the distortion since they "absorb" the roll of the car to a degree. However, since our Fit has the Torsion Beam suspension, the distortion will be more pronounced.

- In "my understanding," IRS-equipped cars have less flex/distortion than other designs because each side of the suspension absorbs the road impacts independently, which helps keeping the overall chassis neutral.

I must disclaim that I'm an NOT expert at this. This is just my personal understanding and i just want to share with everyone to see if it's accurate or not so that i can learn from it.
 
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