I agree to a certain degree.. do I plan on auto-x'ing or tracking the car? probably not... and I've heard the regular sports suspension handles REALLY well on regular everyday driving streets.. $400 isn't a lot, and I think I would be happy with either suspension for sure, but it could also be used towards something else... keep in mind, I do want to do a ton of things to the car, but in the grand scheme of things I'm saving up for a house and upcoming marriage too

 

Either way I'm sure you will be very happy with the suspension, if tracking isn't really something that you are looking into doing the Sport suspension will be perfect, the suspension is probably so well balanced there might not even be a point in having the adjustability in the dampening. When should yours' be arriving?

 

 

Sounds to me like AJR said that so you get the T1R. Looks like someone had both and said the Mugen is better. I'd get Mugen over T1r any day of the week. Unfortunately i don't want to drop mine because i live off-road. Waiting for Koni or KYB to come out with stiffer shocks/struts.

 

hehe...we don't pay retail price

 

No, the Sport Suspension is a lot better than the Regular suspension. Even if they were promoting their stuff over the Mugen, I'd buy the T1R over the Regular Mugen suspension for the adjustability.

 

well the bounciness may be because they're not progressive springs... and I didn't even realize until I took a second glance at the picture... in hindsight, I probably should have got some progressive lowering springs with a mild drop and wait till a decent aftermarket strut came out (ie. Koni, KYB etc...) ... ahhh well, what can you do

 

That's exactly what I did! And get camber kit buddy(not to get 0degree camber though!!!) to gain a bit more negative camber up front compare with stock.

If you did read my thread about lowering my car & installed camber kit in this forum. U can also see a pic that I took BEFORE I put in the camber kit. It really looks like it has positive camber even after I lowered it. Fit is not the same as Civic/Integra it doesn't gain much negative camber at all after u lowered it.

If your car is just for street use, stick with Mugen sports setup. Forget about the 5way adjustable. Not like u gonna drive it close to the limit and trying to find THAT 400cad difference anyway?

Heck! 400cad/usd I can use that to replace my POS OEM clutch for crying out loud!

 

If the strut is tuned correctly to the spring, which is the case of both the sport suspension and the new 5 way adjustable setup, there should be no bounciness in terms of the way the car feels. The strut not only aids in rebound, but compression as well. I highly doubt that Mugen designed a suspension that has that aggressive of a spring rate. When you get the suspension I think you will be suprised at the way it feels. I would highly recommend that you check other forums such as the RSX forum and see how they rated the suspension, as I did. Nothing, but good things were said about the suspension.

 

Definitely not. Their products also have to be sold in Japan's Honda showrooms. Most of them are within 1" a drop with about a 10-25% increase in spring rates, depending on which application they're going on. Obviously the Type-R would get a less aggressive spring rate than the Fit or the Honda Life or something that wasn't necessarily designed for it. Not to say they couldn't, but Mugen's designs are to work as well as possible with the OEM setups. Still, if I were to choose one of these setups, I'd absolutely go with the Sport suspension. I haven't heard much about the 5 way adj. except it's a better choice than the SS for more dedicated track racing.

 

shit , I was looking at megans full suspension kit, but this is around 250-300 more. I would be down if their was a group buy for the mugen one. Around December, or if they are running deals.

 

do you have a link to that thread? I'm too lazy to search :P I'm not too worried about the camber.. in fact you sorta eased my thoughts as I THOUGHT there would be quite a bit of negative camber once I dropped it, even if it's just an inch.

The only reason I'm considering the 5-way OR possibly the T1R's is I heard strait from someone that has the mugen ss's (Mugen Dom) and him and Ben at AJ Racing said it SUCKED.. too bouncy, and was too soft around corners.. but better than stock... again, possibly b/c they're NOT progressive springs that they're using on the Mugen SS. I highly doubt I'll be tracking the car, but this reported "bouncieness" worries me.. I don't want to sacrifice the overall comfort by TOO much.. and thought with the quality of Mugen and mild drop I wouldn't have to...

 

supposedly no one knows or it's nearly impossible to find the spring rates on the Mugen SS. I'm just wondering if KYB made the struts for the SS why they don't release a set by themselves so we can pair it up with a progressive spring.. also Mugen Dom brought up a good point by saying that the Mugen SS was designed specifically for the JDM Fit, which could also explain the possible bouncieness...

also, I HAVE heard good things about the the suspension (Until just recently) but they're for other vehicles such as, like you mentioned, the DC5 and EP3 ... I think SHOWA made those struts for those applications... what made you decide the 5-way over the regular SS? did you find out more info about the 5-way from Kings or somewhere else?

 

have you heard much about the SS? specifically for the FIT? cuz it seems like no one has this setup on their cars other than Mugen Dom .. I haven't had much luck finding any info about it either... like direct testimonials

 

In regards as to the maker of the suspension, my first thoughts in regards to who the maker would be would also be Showa. Like many of the items carried in Mugens line, Showa happens to be the maker. It wouldn't make any sense for them to stick with a specific maker of suspension and then change it only for the fit. In response to your question about deciding on choosing the 5 way adjustable rather than the regular sport suspension, I felt there is a particular way I want my car to feel on the street and at the track and because of that having foresight into the ways changing out additional parts might cause my car to handle I opted for something with slightly more adjustment built in. I'll try to do a little more research on the suspension to see if I could get you some more answers. Also it would be nice to hear from MugenDom on his impressions of the suspension setup. Even if this suspension was created for the JDM fit, the differences between the NA fit and JDM are merely cosmetic as both cars carry the same chassis and drivetrain.

 

I assumed and thought it was SHOWA as well.. but according to this thread:

https://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-...uspension.html

it's clearly KYB ..... kinda weird to me... does KYB make bad stuff? no, not necessarily, but in this case maybe it doesn't match well with whatever springs Mugen has used or developed... Mugen Dom was clearly dissapointed with the SS's, as was Ben from AJ ... so it weighs heavily on me now on what I should do...

 

The thing about Showa versus KYB is that Showa is known for their extremely high quality parts. In terms of struts though KYB is not a bad company for struts either, but personally I'd rather have a company that has proven themselves with component parts for other cars than KYB. Another thing is that KYB themselves are much cheaper and that must come from either cheaper labor or lower quality parts, either way thats not what I'd expect from Mugen. Although finding out that the struts are made by KYB is a little disconcerting, I'm still quite sure that the suspension handles well, simply from what the other fitfreak member said to me regarding the handling between the T1R and Mugen setup. I will also give a call to King to find out about the 5 way adjustable suspension in case anybody was wondering where those struts came from as well.

 

who's this other fitfreak member that you spoke to? did he get into much detail about the Mugen SS? was he raving about it? what was his specific reason to switch FROM the SS to the T1R's? Again, I'm really on the fence right now unless I can hear from some more people that have it or have had it on their car... so far one bad testimonial and one good (although I'm not sure what the guy you spoke with said exactly) ...

ya, if you could find out some info on the 5-way that would be great.. I doubt the struts will be made by KYB.. but it also looks like the springs aren't progressive ... maybe you could see if Kings has had first hand experience with the regular SS on a NA fit?

 

I don't mind to try out and see. My bro's ex-gf has a set of SPOON (Showa) shocks w/T1R springs on her Fit LX though. I test drove it and the ride quality is pretty good. But of coz I didn't/can't take it to autocross or track day to find what the limit is with that setup.

Anyway I don't think Mugen will have a really BIG difference compare with SPOON's setup.....

 

are you talking about the regular SS or the 5way? how did your bro's ex gf get a hold of the Showa shocks? cuz If I can find a decent set of shocks I'll just grab some progressive springs with a mild drop