I dont understand how they cant produce the shocks when other companies can. I did talk to him about the spring perches being adjustable and he said they wouldnt be due to the shocks design on the Fit.

 

they should be out soon, they said winter 07

 

Makes perfect sense to me. I don't think Tokico is making the same shock as Koni's talking to you about. What would spring perches have anything to do with shocks? I'm no specialist when it comes to suspension, but it sounded like they wanted to make a shock that has the spring on it. I was under the impression the Fit's suspension is 2 pieces. Shock and Spring separately.

As to why they don't manufacture it, just give it time. If theres demand, sure enough they'll make it. But as of now, most people that wave to me from their fits are 40+ men and women.

 

Correction-- I was wrong!
It isn't Koni that has shocks/struts for the Scion XB- it is KYB. Maybe they will have something for us although they won't be adjustable.

 

Looking at my CRX's rear Koni's, they could work on the Fit.
Fronts might work from some other newer Honda, or Mk1 (first generation Golf.
Anybody knows for sure?

Ivan

 

I am such a dumass! Not even close to CRX. Looking at one thing talking about another.

 

how about d-specs?

 

My cousin's Scion Xa has Koni Yellows... Come on KONI!!! DON'T LEAVE US IN THE DARK!!!

 

T1R is coming out with adjustables in the spring, so I think I will go with those if Koni doens't come out with some yellows for the Fit

 

Somebody on this board said that Koni already makes shocks for foreign-market Fits. So all they'd have to do for USDM is mod the front swaybar mount, and A-J Racing has already figured out how to do that on the Showa units. It's not rocket science. This leaves me really disappointed in Koni -- and really looking forward to options from Tokico and anybody else. I'll be making a purchase early in '08 for the autocross season, so I'm holding out to see what all the options are.

 

afaik, know doesn't make struts for any market fit or jazz.

 

if a hatchbacked echo that doesn't really handle all that well stock has got koni making shocks, why can't the usdm fit have them?


while adjustables would be great, i don't think its so much that i need them as much as it is that i just want a decent set of aftermarket shocks.

i know that im not alone in saying that i'd rather go the more economical route and get a nice spring/shock combo as opposed to coilovers. (the tr1's are expensive as hell. )

so there are some showas on aj's that we can use?

i considered the mugen suspension, but its a lot for what it is, and while mugens stuff is great, i've heard a few so so stories about this suspension as its been modified for our fits as oppossed to be specifically made for them.

i just want shocks in general!!! koni! tockico! ANYBODY!!!!

 

I feel ya brotha's. But look at it this way, if I was a major company, I wouldn't release products for a car until after 3 years the initial year, I dont really wanna mod my fit until my warranty's over with. Otherwise, I'll be kicking myself in the butt if they void my warranty for modding something I could've just waited on.

 

true, but unless your dealer can prove that it was the modification that did something TO void the warranty, they are out of luck. legally. they can't just tell you because you lowered your car that you have voided your warranty.


so whats the dillio on the showas? are they listed as ajdustable dampers? i saw them on spoons website, but no info regarding the fitment to the usdm fit. (which is odd, why would a jdm company be the only one making a part of a usdm spec fit?)

 

the showas come in 2 or 3 different models. They aren't bolt on for our usdm fits. You have to enlarge the knuckle mount holes and possibly source swaybar end links depending on what model jdm fit they were made for.

 

A-J Racing, a forum sponsor, sells them as a bolt-on item already modified for USDM cars and ready to go. But they are sold on special order only and take about one month to get. Price is about $700/set.

 

see? thats the problem. get this and then decent springs will cost you at LEAST 150 bucks more. for that i might as well just get tein's basic coilover system or plop down the extra dough for the mugen!

 

Not if you plan to compete in stock-class autocross you won't. Rules don't allow coilovers or aftermarket springs, but shocks are open. That's why this is so important to some of us.

 

i see...but stock springs and aftermarket shocks? hmm...enlighten me on the benefit of that?

i personally don't have plans to do so, and bang for buck is important to me and i wont be autocrossing any time soon.

 

Since springs and coilovers are not allowed to lover the center of gravity under the rules of Stock Class, adjustable shocks can help stiffen things up to prevent body roll and squatting, as well as alter balance from mild understeer to more neutral. On understeering front wheel drive car you are forced to slow down to make it through the turn while on oversteering front wheel drive car you floor it as mush as you can to bring it back.
Difference between two identical cars one understeering and one oversteering through one turn is at least one or two car lengths. Now imagine 60 second course with about 15-20 turns!
You steer with throttle as much as with the steering wheel when you autocross.
That is why we also remove front sway bar since beefing up rear one is not allowed. You see, you can't add things, but you can remove them under class rules.
It is hard to understand appeal of driving between cones against the clock until you actually do it. Then you get hooked!