You bring up another aspect of the marketing of this kind of hardware. The maker of the bar that I have- ASPEC- claim that their bar is absolutely effective. With the Progress RSB, whether the strut bar is on or off, there is no difference that I can feel in very hard mountain driving.

I don't feel the need to repeat my same statements over and over. Buy whatever you want. I don't have the need to prove that the strut bars don't work. You claim that yours does because you can "feel" it. I claim that yours doesn't, and you could drive exactly the same way without it.
What I would like to see is measurable proof either way. "I feel it" is not measurable proof, and neither is "I don't feel it". As I have said in another thread, "prove it to me scientifically", meaning with accurate, repeatable measurements.

Otherwise, this boils down to esoteric issues of "faith" that probably FILL religion-based forums. I wouldn't know- I never go there. Since those things CANNOT be measured, such discussions are silly.

The effectiveness of strut bars CAN be measured, and I would do it if I had, or had access, to the proper tools and methodology. Otherwise it boils down to "Joe believes in the existence of hell, and Jim doesn't- who's right?".

No "enemies" need to be created here. I'm sure that the OP has gotten as good an answer as he is likely to. You and others believe that strut bars work, I and others do not. We are all entitled to our beliefs. My beliefs are such that I would not spend another penny for any other brand of strut bar.

 

they need to come out with a megan racing H brace for the Fit. I loved that thing so much on my ek. Better then a Strut bar.

 

Strut bar is off the list! I tend toward thikning that I would not "feel"much. I am likely to get more out of tweaking up the valving on the coilovers for when I wanna get on it a bit.

Illusive: Thanks much for that suggestion-- but I forgot to mention about wife and kids factor with this car! Ben at AJ's advised against the B-pipe because i was really concerned about excessive noise-- especially in cabin-- and he said it would really get loud with a different B-pipe. Darn.

 

Jeff,
Your first paragraph describes my beliefs with your car the way that you have it set up now. I don't think that the addition of the most expensive strut bar in the world would make any change. The people claiming great results with the strut bar most likely no not have the coilover/rear sway bar combo.

 

Indeed-- you are more than likely correct on that. Skunk2 Pro-C and progress rear sway is a force to be reckoned with, no doubt! (though that strut bar does look cool in engiene bay... no no no (fighting myself)...
I need to stick with the known variables. I have done that so far with my first round of mods and been VERY pleased. I am not out pushing limits on the track-- just want to continue this march toward a supremely nice Fit.

 

Only thing with the Pro-C's is the price. It hurts lol.

I sorta want to go with the front blox, rear progress and slap on my gram lights and call it a day. But I hate the stance of the Fit.

 

lol... so you, after spending a few nickles on the a-spec design
stb, have locked yourself into a situation where you will no
longer try other stb's? kinda sad, no?

ive had prior experience with stb's that look very similar to the
a-spec design and they were functionally crap. another reason why
you dont see a-spec stb on my car. and i found out 10yrs ago.

i ran spoon stb's on the very car and it was a night/day difference vs
the a-spec type design. it was on a 98 lude i had at the time. the
differences in function are from the design construction and materials
used. spoon, cusco, neuspeed, arc have all shown me very noticable
results on my applications through the years on different cars.

driving pleasure is what i am after and the front cusco stb definitely
helps in that department on the Fit. as much as you can't show me any data
disproving, i dont have numeric data to share with you...but, the
difference is very noticable even on my car with just DF210's springs
and rear progress swaybar. i wouldn't go without it.

i really dont care about appearance in my engine room... its not like
i showcase my cars at shows or drive around with the hood open.
if the car didn't need it, i wouldn't spend the money. do you know
how much an arc stb for a G35C costs? try over 600. you think i
would spend that kinda money on a gimick? give me a break.

lastly, see if you can find a friend that has a stock MINI; ask him to
let you drive it for a little while through some turns. you'll see why
i dont use a stb on that car. ive always voted against using stb's
on the MINI's as it does not call out for it.

 

Okay, Ken, have it you way. Our OP has all the info. he needs. Give me scientific measurements, or STFU. Put your ego back in your pants.

Your good buddy,
Dave

 

So what exactly do you have to offer in the benefit of this topic? other than keep telling others to prove it to you. And when someone tries to express his opinion and experiences, you tell him to STFU? I think you're the one need to STFU!

 

I have owned and built over 6 honda's including a boosted 99 r/t neon. I can vouch and say that a solid (no flex points) upper strut bar does make a difference in handling. I an not jumping into a argument, but that is my opinion from auto-crossing and doing cat and mouse runs with my friends.

 

Great!. Don't read any of my posts, and please put me on your "Ignore" list. And by all means, based on Ken's advice, buy any available $600.00 front strut bar and mount it on your Fit. And I will laugh until I pass out.

Jeff, sorry that my presence has brought the weirdos to your thread. I'm glad that you read my past posts as well as kenchan's, and with your own knowledge and perceptions, made the decision that you made. Over and out on this thread

 

For clarity, this post aimed at fitinfit, not dank24

 

whos the one keep saying that he's not trying to create enemies? and who's the one thats creating all the tension and calling names? while everyone here is trying to keep things cool and using polite words. I think all you smart fit freakers can figure this out without even thinking.

anyways, here's my contribution, think it has been posted before [ PR ] CUSCO

not saying that i think bar is really that necessary, this is just for your information, you make your own judgments.

 

dude, get over yourself. It is the freaking internet.

 

nice...

you'll be seeing more of my real world application results and
contributions from my personal experiments as i continue to
mod this car. best part about my reviews is that it's realworld
stuff, budget and reliability in mind.

you're going to have to try harder if you want to shut me up. lol
im new to FitS but not new to car forums or modding cars.

 

see, another post that just reconfirms the lack of knowledge
on this topic and sus tuning in general. how many stb's do
you think are available for CPV35 platform that is compatible
with the engine cover? do you think i actually enjoyed paying
over 600 on a stb? no, but the gains are real and benefits are
nice. my conclusion is that stb's are worth it if the car
begs to have one on. if you can enjoy a car without spending
extra money, more to ya. its sometimes nice not to know the
benefits...kinda naive, but your choice.

 

Thanks for the like to the Cusco site, that had some compelling information.


Being totally honest, if I got one at this point it would be just to say I have it + it does look cool! If it's under/around $200.00 (not saying I'm rich or have money to burn or anything) I do well enough in life that that is not going to break me or anything.

But I understand not to expect miracles from just the addition of a strut bar.

Ben at AJ's said he's got a T1R strut bar coming out... might just wait for that. I like that guy and the T1R products I have used so far. I think Ben is pretty much a no BS guy with a very solid reputation (not to mention Super Lap Battle champion Fit!)

Like I said-- I won't be expecting miracles or anything (though that cute Japanese racer girl on the Cusco site sure seemed impressed with her bar!)

 

Is a Strut Tower Bar Really Needed?
I found this doing a search on strut bar theory. I think strut bars make the car feel more connected and responsive due to the strut towers not flexing and wandering. May be there is no added G's or realtime performance increase but, the car feels a whole lot more stable in turns especially ones that are not totally smooth or sweeping. In my opinion you better try one then speak out because it's not your idea.

 

Apparently you just didn't notice that I have said, over and over, in multiple threads, that I DO HAVE ONE- that's why "I speak out"- it is my idea- it doesn't work.

 

Well, I guess you should keep your unbacked opinion to yourself then.