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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Need your HELP !! lowering

i would like some feed back on lowering my fit... i have a 205/40/17 that will be going on upon purchasing springs, ( dont want a fit 4x4 lol ) this is my first honda ive always been a nissan guy so any feed back would be great
 
Old Mar 23, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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you have any springs in mind?? and how low do you want to go
 
Old Mar 23, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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well i saw that tein makes a spring and i had very bad luck with a set of tein coil overs i had on a wrx a few years ago ( ROTTED OUT ) but not really ... as far as how low i want to go i will be running a 17 for now i would like to eliminate as much wheel gap as possible without looking crazy hahaha not into 2 inches of wheel tuck
 
Old Mar 23, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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what is the offset of the rims? that makes a BIG difference with the fit
 
Old Mar 23, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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i wish i knew there being powder coated right now, they're a tsw that came off my nephews del sol.. since they are a couple years old i cant find out the name of the wheel only the brand ... is there a way i can measure the offset ?
 
Old Mar 23, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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I have 205/40/17 with H&R Sport.......42 offset

and the front rubs occasionally on hard turns into driveways....

the rear hasn't rub yet.......the H&R are stiffer than the stock springs.....

I was rubbing more with the stock springs(front/rear)......less with the H&R drop.
 

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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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thats good to know i was getting really worried reading about everyone rubbing on they're 16's lol however i never even took the time to think about my offset.... im a nissan guy and when you ask nissan guys about offsets 90 percent of them will say " whats an offset "
 
Old Mar 23, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Reinert79
i would like some feed back on lowering my fit... i have a 205/40/17 that will be going on upon purchasing springs, ( dont want a fit 4x4 lol ) this is my first honda ive always been a nissan guy so any feed back would be great
Stick with 1.5" front drop and 1" rear. And use 7x17 wheels with 45 mm offset up to 48 mm. If you drop below 45 mm with your 1.5/1" drop you'll surely get interference. And close with no drop.
That also applies to 15" and 16" wheels with tires of same diameter and width as stock plus (23.5" diameter by 195/205 width).
Not all Fits are precisely the same dimensions., usual manufacturing tolerances, so you can check your Fit for variances for something different We've done 4 Fits so far with no problems using this rule.
Good luck.
 
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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Stick with 1.5" front drop and 1" rear. And use 7x17 wheels with 45 mm offset up to 48 mm. If you drop below 45 mm with your 1.5/1" drop you'll surely get interference. And close with no drop.
That also applies to 15" and 16" wheels with tires of same diameter and width as stock plus (23.5" diameter by 195/205 width).
Not all Fits are precisely the same dimensions., usual manufacturing tolerances, so you can check your Fit for variances for something different We've done 4 Fits so far with no problems using this rule.
Good luck.
We ran 17x7.5 falken hanabi's with a 42 offset, lowered on df210s (about 2") with basically no interference. The back rubbed slightly, about 10 minutes of fender rolling solved that problem.

Everyone said the car would basically not roll because of the width/offset, and sure enough, the car actually drove. Just because a few people say it wont work, doesnt mean that they are right.

Too many times on this forum, people get talked out of what they want to do, all because others say it wont work, when those others have never even tried it.

Good Luck!
 
Old Mar 31, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by dcmcelreath
Too many times on this forum, people get talked out of what they want to do, all because others say it wont work, when those others have never even tried it.
Good Luck!
what tires are you running? (size and model).

tire width differ greatly by the design and what wheel width it is
mounted on... so somethings you need to just take risks.

i do trial and error all the time... i look at the data and make an
educated guess and just go with it... majority of the time it works
as planned, but some of the time it works as planned in a bad
way too. just need to experiment. there is no better
way than to get first and experience. ive already swapped out
my suspension twice in the last 3months.
 
Old Mar 31, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmcelreath
We ran 17x7.5 falken hanabi's with a 42 offset, lowered on df210s (about 2") with basically no interference. The back rubbed slightly, about 10 minutes of fender rolling solved that problem.

Everyone said the car would basically not roll because of the width/offset, and sure enough, the car actually drove. Just because a few people say it wont work, doesnt mean that they are right.

Too many times on this forum, people get talked out of what they want to do, all because others say it wont work, when those others have never even tried it.

Good Luck!
What size tire? We've now mounted 4 sets of tires on lowered Fits; every one that had 42 mm offset and 23.5" stock (as is 205/40x17) tire diameter x 205 width tires rubbed. Some hard, some lightly.
Every car that comes in here with 'basically no rubbing' wants to get rid of the rubbing. The more lowered the more rubbing.
When you ask how to lower without rubbing that's the answer you get here. How to lower with NO rubbing. And a side benefit: no compromised suspension geometery. Wait til you test that 'basically no rubbing' in snow and ice conditions. Or even real wet ones.
Just cause you can do it doesn't mean its cool.
 
Old Mar 31, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mahout
What size tire? We've now mounted 4 sets of tires on lowered Fits; every one that had 42 mm offset and 23.5" stock (as is 205/40x17) tire diameter x 205 width tires rubbed. Some hard, some lightly.
Every car that comes in here with 'basically no rubbing' wants to get rid of the rubbing. The more lowered the more rubbing.
When you ask how to lower without rubbing that's the answer you get here. How to lower with NO rubbing. And a side benefit: no compromised suspension geometery. Wait til you test that 'basically no rubbing' in snow and ice conditions. Or even real wet ones.
Just cause you can do it doesn't mean its cool.
Just like was posted by the starter of the topic, we ran 205/40/17s after fender rolling, there was no rubbing.

I dont need snowy or ice conditions to test it, I live in an oilfield town with four wheel drive trucks ruining the streets all day long. no snow, nor ice could make a vehicle rub worst than it would dry. The only reason it would rub worst is if you were rally racing the car. they rub because of the suspension absorbing shock, not because of slippery conditions on the roadway.

The falken 17"s were run ALL WINTER LONG.

All in all, we have run 3 sets of 15"s, 1 set of 16"s, and one set of 17"s.
That is just the fit, all in all, I have ran 13 sets of wheels in about 5 years. Including a set of 19"s on a 98 contour SVT that EVERYONE said would rub. It never did.

Also, offset doesnt mean anything if the wheel width is different. a +42 offset will stick out about 6 mm more on an 8" wheel, than a 7" wheel.

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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
what tires are you running? (size and model).

tire width differ greatly by the design and what wheel width it is
mounted on... so somethings you need to just take risks.

i do trial and error all the time... i look at the data and make an
educated guess and just go with it... majority of the time it works
as planned, but some of the time it works as planned in a bad
way too. just need to experiment. there is no better
way than to get first and experience. ive already swapped out
my suspension twice in the last 3months.

The tires were 205/40/17's they were falken azenis rt-615's

It is because of people experimenting, that the automotive industry has come as far as it has.

If everyone only lowered their car 1" and all ran the same size wheels, our cars would all look like crap.

Thank you for helping us all to progress!

Dustin
 
Old Apr 1, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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i kinda like those falkens
 
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmcelreath
We ran 17x7.5 falken hanabi's with a 42 offset, lowered on df210s (about 2") with basically no interference. The back rubbed slightly, about 10 minutes of fender rolling solved that problem.

Everyone said the car would basically not roll because of the width/offset, and sure enough, the car actually drove. Just because a few people say it wont work, doesnt mean that they are right.

Too many times on this forum, people get talked out of what they want to do, all because others say it wont work, when those others have never even tried it.

Good Luck!
The key to your advice is 'basically' no interference; just a little fender roll was all it took. Remember, those body mods will come back to bite you hard when you sell or trade your fit. 17x7's with 42 mm will work stock ride height but its very close on the one we did. Too close to recommend. With 45 mm you'll be OK.
 
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dcmcelreath
The tires were 205/40/17's they were falken azenis rt-615's

It is because of people experimenting, that the automotive industry has come as far as it has.

If everyone only lowered their car 1" and all ran the same size wheels, our cars would all look like crap.

Thank you for helping us all to progress!

Dustin

np, i just do my experients and let everyone know the outcomes... good
or bad. i also like reviewing the stores and services too. dont want to
ruin our fun hobby by some arse at the store, ya know.
 
Old Apr 15, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mahout
The key to your advice is 'basically' no interference; just a little fender roll was all it took. Remember, those body mods will come back to bite you hard when you sell or trade your fit. 17x7's with 42 mm will work stock ride height but its very close on the one we did. Too close to recommend. With 45 mm you'll be OK.
OK, you know everything about buying, selling, and trading cars. Especially that a slightly rolled INNER fender will completely ruin our resale. Dont worry, I wont come crying to you on the day we go to re-sell, so you dont have to fret over it.

Dont forget to keep every stock part! Anything you do will ruin your resale!

Good Day!
 
Old Apr 16, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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For the offset, Check the Back pad of the wheel. Around the lug nut holes it will be stamped into the wheel. some might 42et or just 42 just using 42 as a example
 
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